Explosive Video - No stimulus money for "White Male Construction Workers"

if this is true, then i think they've made a huge mistake.
i'd rather contracts/jobs go to whomever's the most qualified.
fair is fair.

reply to post by Perseus Apex


i agree.
i don't see the point of stating race on employment forms.
checklist for gender i think is reasonable but, race seems unnecessary.

reply to post by maggalo


Our economy doesn't run on skin color. The color of one’s skin is getting twisted with economic policy. Here is what happens when you do that.

Remember when the White Farmers were kicked off their land in Zimbabwe? The White farmers made Zimbabwe prosperous. Zimbabwe was the bread basket of Africa. Then the blacks got control. They kicked all the white farmers off the land and gave all the land and equipment to the blacks. Now Zimbabwe is in shambles and everyone is starving.

This is what we are going to get from Obama? He wishes to play a game and give all the tax dollars to the lazy no good free loaders of the country just like they did in Zimbabwe?

We will have places like Detroit all over the nation. There will be no safe place for White America is what they are saying? I say give it your best shot because once this happens we surly will....

This issue is nothing new down here in Texas.
From the city of Austin:

The program encourages minorities-owned and women-owned business enterprises to participate in City contracts by establishing special procurement goals for each contract type for each contract type. SMBR sets MBE/WBE & DBE contracting goals in the areas of construction, professional services, commodities, and non-professional services.

To ensure that only bona fide MBE, WBE or DBE businesses participate in the program, SMBR has a comprehensive certification program. Only those businesses determined to be owned and controlled by minorities or women who are socially and economically disadvantaged individuals are certified. A firm designated as an MBE, WBE, or DBE will have its name appear in the vendor availability list. This document is made available to prime contractors and other procurement entities such as Travis County and Austin Independent School District.
Source

NOVEMBER 22, 2002
Naked City
Minority Contracts Probed

"Lino Rivera, director of the city's Small and Minority Business Resources office, has been reassigned pending the outcome of an ongoing investigation into alleged bid-rigging and other contract irregularities..."

"...a federal search warrant leaked to the media last week alleges that Rivera pressured contractors on behalf of several Hispanic-owned subcontractors. The warrant sought to seize Rivera's correspondence with several vendors..."

"While SMBR does not award contracts directly, it has an important role in deciding who gets city business, and since its inception (long before Rivera took it over), it has been a politically volatile city program. Among the routinely disgruntled have been African-American contractors, who question why the city has not been able to meet the quite modest goals for black participation set forth in the 1997 ordinance and who have before raised suspicions about SMBR's fairness."

Friday, January 21, 2005
Construction Resource Center gives minority contractors a boost

The Construction Resource Center provides minority-owned construction companies access to bid opportunities, blue prints, work specifications and graphic printing equipment, including an iSquareFoot printer -- in addition to one-on-one assistance with the bidding process.

But the fact is these sort of practices are unconstitutional.
November 28, 2008
NPR; AllTthings Considered

A Pentagon affirmative action program that benefits contracting companies owned by racial minorities has been declared unconstitutional. The decision was issued Nov. 4 — Election Day — so it hasn't received much attention. But the decision could mean the end of similar programs at all levels of government.

reply to post by Wethesheeple


racism is racism there should be no reverse racism

Things are already starting to heat up, I saw on the news where the rapper JZ sang a song about Obama and he said "No more white lies cause our president is black" and that is really starting a rumble online, I am going to predict that all the rappers whos names I cant pronounce will be adding fuel to all the fires that are starting.

What is bothersome is that the government is now determining hiring practices. But there is nothing to be done. There are concequences to elections. The tape is not dubed. I believe it is against the law to discriminate against any race - opps except white males.

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That Sign turning job is one of the hardest to keep workers for. I have a freind who supervises that work and even with the high pay rate, people get bored and sick of the sun, cars etc and walk off the job. Some jobs are not as easy as they look.

This is hands down one of the most racist comments I have ever witnessed coming from a paid public official.


Dont believe this was racist? What do you think if that same synopsis had been delivered to congress, only instead of the words "WHITE construction workers" he said "BLACK construction workers".

Mobs of outraged people would be burning down Newark as we speak. It would be a headline on every liberal newspaper/news outlet in the free world. There would be demands calling for his immediate resignation or termination...and you know Im right. No way anyone can deny that. Blatant and unapologetic racism.

But because he is suggesting discrimination against white males ...oh well...that..thats ok. Are you serious?

Free health care, free food stamps, free welfare checks, free money for college, free Section 8 housing vouchers, legislation to guarantee top consideration for any job backed by mandatory hiring quotas, and now a suggested leg up on stimulus money derived from US tax dollars that were primarily paid in by the people they are discriminating against.

I am ALL for fair compensation and fair consideration for work performed. These politicians rob one segment of the population in order to appease the other segment "in the interest of fairness"..but the reality is what they are doing is the exact polar opposite of fairness.

Apparently racism and discrimination is bad unless it is being levied against working class white people. They decry about things such as level and even playing fields...all while manipulating and tipping the scale so that it will be anything but level or even or fair.

Liberals are not interested in fairness, they are interested in appeasement, self destruction and revenge.

There they go again using the race card who cares if the are black , white, red , green or blue. I understand that probably the majority of construction workers are white but there are many hispanics as well as blacks in the construction industry.

Oh no we can't have stimulus packages for the workers of this country, but if the workers looked like a white bank and they have lost billions of dollars foolishly that is a different story then the government can find a stimulus package for you. Step right up you are the winner of a 350 billion dollar stimulus package.

I think that Reich was attempting to say that the stimulus money should be spread around to OTHER groups and not only "White Male Construction Workers". It was bad wording on his part, but I doubt it was reverse racism.

you cant state what u think he was attempting to say..he said it!!!

wrong he did say white!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and u would kill your dad also....just what u said in another thread...sorry

Individual Rights should be objectively promoted into Law and Enforced. Protect the Individual, you protect all Groups, by proxy. Racism, Reverse Racism, and all Ism's, Affirmative Action, Civil Rights, Non- Original Intent Constitutional theologies, and the like are the core at what's eating this Country apart from the inside out.

Equal taxation without representtion is a great Idea, but, is as unlikely to happen as Equal representation without taxation.

This money isn't really theirs to distribute in the first place as taxes were only meant to be collected in amounts to keep government functioning not to keep those Government represents or their constituants functioning.

That aside, if any proposal were made, it should be to distribute the ill gotten wealth, wealth collected in excess of Government's needs to function, should disperse such wealth equitably to all factions of the people without regard for any pre determining qualifier or condition, and should never be subject to such qualifiers and conditions.

[edit on 22-1-2009 by PhyberDragon]

reply to post by BlackOps719


All of you. Read this man's post. He is telling the truth.

its stimulus, people who on on welfare and unemployed suck money out of state funds for health care and general fund for basic survival of there families welfare. Instead of giving the money to the average "whitey" who has a decent income, they want to build up from the foundation, strengthen the states by reducing welfare payouts , unemployment payouts, state paid health benefits. I am white and understand what he is doing, don't take it wrong, this will help you out no matter who you are. To build anything it takes a strong foundation, this is where our states are being drained of there money and then calling upon federal mandated help. this is a good move, not reverse racism, its a total honest approach to ending the crap the rich have continually stolen from all of us by paying no taxes through tax shelters lawyers doing there dirty work. Its a way for a man who has no hope but prison or dying in Iraq to lift himself and children up from poverty. GET A GRIP GREEDY, its about America and Americans helping the less fortunate and at the same time repairing our states inner Economies. Racism is going to haunt us till the day we all are the same color, but Greed will always find someone to blame, someone to rake over the coals, GROW UP!!! I really think that every man has the right to become a good tax paying citizen, instead of no chance except at the other end of a gun keeping his fricken kids alive. I love humanity, I love the fact that we have a president who uses his heart to lead us away from all this fear begotten bamboozal crap your trying to get us to swallow. Now the small man, the poor man, the black man, every man, has a chance to drive a nice car and park in a nice garage in a nice safe neighborhood, So as a person who loves my kids and would die for em to have a better life, I am so ever happy for the underdog here.

good thing you didnt bring this one up to me in the bar cause I would of prob flattened ya.

[edit on 22-1-2009 by NOTANWOFOLLOWER]

Originally posted by Stormdancer777

Originally posted by WISHADOW
White male construction workers were in the same boat as minorities are in today. They usually end up being homeless alcoholics and drug abusers that dropped out of high school. Juveniles and convicts. Prison boys. And in todays world making way too much money for the work in which they are supposed to be conducting. Most of them are slackers. They slack around the job sites pretending their work is valor. Often times you might find them drinking beer and smoking on site. Not much to call work. I'm all for barring stimulus money to these white male construction workers.

EXCUSE ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???

Generalize much?

My husband graduated high school and the went into the Marines, and served in Vietnam,

After he came home he worked for the state, then drove a semi, now the last 25 years he has been a carpenter,

and he is not a slacker, nor does he drink.

Plus he works hard for what little pay he gets,

I just want to ad something pertaining to this. Those working in carpentry, construction, iron workers, etc...earn and deserve respect for what they do. They are mostly held to meet strict deadlines that can only be met with vigorous work habits and hustle. They endure health hazards and excessive physical wear and tear providing many dangerous tasks vital to our infrastructure. Thinking them all to be drunken screw ups is ridiculously naive, to say the least. To hold a core position on a full time crew is not an easy task and certainly isn't handed to "slackers, juveniles and convicts". These men are merited through performance and past results that deserve respect regardless what some want to believe of their ethics.

I lost my cousin/best friend two years ago when he fell to his death at a job site here in Detroit. He was a foreman iron worker on a full time crew and took great pride in what he did. Yes, they sometimes clowned around to make the best of a dangerous occupation, but all of them were highly skilled and have many accomplishments to prove it. Slackers can be found in all fields of work, but contrary to the above opinion, slacking in skilled trade gets you a seat at the union hall awaiting temporary work and never steady work as part of a crew.

If I happened to run across a skilled tradesman that was facing the criticisms mentioned above, I wouldn't make the mistake of quick judgment and kick him while he's down. Rather, I'd consider the possibility that my cousins fellow crew are now forced to live with. They still crawl up that iron every day knowing that they too are at risk to meet the same fate as the men they've witnessed fall. This is a fact of life to these guys and if clowning around a little helps them cope, how dare I criticize their methods?

When will people understand the devastating effect caused by this me first attitude? Love and support is a rewarding experience and helping each other as brothers and sisters is a foolish thing to evade. When your time of need comes, you too will need humanity. Wouldn't you want to do all you could to encourage it's survival? Besides, knocking others down will never lift you up. Don't we know this by now? Peace!

reply to post by NOTANWOFOLLOWER


Ok I hear where you are coming from, but not every white man lives in a nice house and drives a nice car.

I have a friend that is a white construction worker who lost his job, his wife worked at Mervins. She lost it because they went out of business.

Why should they be left out? They are about to be evicted and have no where to go. He can not get unemployment because the jobs he worked were so sparce to begin with. The last job he did he did not even get paid because the company lost the line of credit to pay the workers.

We are all in this mess. Sure there are white people living good, there are also black people living good. He should have worded it differently.
Not made exclusions by race.

Originally posted by skibtz
What a crack of arse!

The sound and the video are not even on the same planet!

It's a bit like playing the Death Star battle scene at the end of Star Wars over a video of the weather bulletin with random on-screen messages telling everyone the planet is being attacked by aliens from outer space!

Before anyone starts believing this can the OP or someone please post an official transcript of the event (do they do this?) or at least provide a video where the sound and video match up precisely.

This current video is proof of nothing and begs the question: why has it taken 14 days for it to be released?

Plenty of time for some dodgy editing IMO

I agree with you on this one. That video looks like a hoax. The audio and lip movement do not match up at all. That is when you can see his lips when they are not covered with text to distract your attention. I am calling BS on this one until I see a better video with no text covering the guys face and the audio in sync.

I think someone is just trying to rile up the white man.