America once again shows lack of class

Anyone who thinks that George Bush crashed our economy is just plain ignorant...

Originally posted by Diplomat
Anyone who thinks that George Bush crashed our economy is just plain ignorant...

I think many are willfully ignorant. They need someone to blame and focus hatred on. Its a coping mechanism.

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Do not worry about the US not respecting their criminals. In Romania we ended up shooting our dictators in a legal public execution. That was the only way to end it..

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not just george bush, but also his administration. they had alot of us convinced that iraq had wmd's and that the war was part of the war on terror.

we spent massive amounts of money on that "war on terror" i think if we would of spent half that money promoting peace, we would be in a better place now. karma.

you can quote me on this, making war is easy, making peace is hard and bush took the easy way out.

I have always been proud of the American people and consider the United States to be the best example of what a free society and country can achieve.Even through the Bush administration i felt that at some point we as North Americans would have to deal with the zealot muslim threat and was glad they did it on their soil and not our's!!. Even as we speak there are many Canadian troops in Afghanistan that are trying to bring equality for women and freedom for all in those oppressed in pre historic religious conditions.

So i dont care what these American Bashers say i am proud of our relationship and always will be.

I wonder how many of these defenders are paid agents? If by now you dont want the guillotine for these criminals, then you are either: a) paid for by the elite b) profiting somehow from the bloodshed and economic pandemonium or c) you are mentally retarded. Anyhow, smile! Being an eager volunteer for lobotomy via Fox News is not a crime.

Bush & Cheney are just lucky that those two million people were peaceful, rather than murderous thugs like them. I'm no fan of 0bama by any means, but I actively despise Bush. If I had been there I would have left shoeless.

Like others have said, I think Bush and his cohorts got off very lucky if boo'ing is all they get.

They did a good (read: a bad thing) job in getting the world to hate America, which is a shame. The Bush admin buggered things up pretty good and one of the results is how the US has been alienated from the the rest of world.

However, don't interprete that to mean I hate America - because I don't. And I certainly don't hate the people because they're just people like the rest of us, trying to live their lives as I and the rest of us want to do.

It's the government and its foreign and domestic policies I thoroughly dislike, as do a great many people in the world. And seeing Bush leave to boo'ing was in many ways, a relief -- to see his own countrymen - the people who he was supposed to support and protect, shout him down was quite satisfying.

I really hope Obama has the resolve to turn things around and make your United States shine again. I really do.

Do you know that the biggest scam on earth is the Constitution and human laws?

That is why politicians favour the rich corporations and they get away with it, all masterminded by the same New World Order organisations, such as the Republicans and the Democrats! Yes they lie on the same bed, do not repeal each other's bad laws, and favour the oil barons, and the bankers scumbags.

If you truly want to know more about who really is controlling the world visit: jahtruth.net...

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I can't believe what I'm hearing here. This is why our society is the way it is today. Maybe it's a good thing all you people do is "talk" about lynching and violent revolution via internet forums. Who knows what damage you could do actually unified.

No, Bush was not a good man his term in office. I'm not excusing his various crimes and such, nor his cohort Cheney, who in my opinion, is far far worse. Don't even go there. Nor do I think he should be put on a pedestal or in a glass cage and sheltered from the people whose lives have been destroyed through his actions/inactions.

But honestly, are we so savage that we can't refrain from any condescending behavior on what is supposed to be a celebratory day? Americans love their parties. Everyone knows that. Hell, 3rd longest inaugural parade on record has got to tell you something right there. But which is it going to be? Are you going to embrace the future or mar it so early with scars of the past?

There will be time for that later. Don't hang your vigilance on the rack, but don't be so crude either.

Oh and BTW: This is something even Obama understands. While his speech was laced with statist idealism and collective pragmatism, I wish him the best, even if he does turn out to be a corporate tool in the future. After all, it seems many of you have lost sight of the ball: Bush was the fall guy to get many things in place for Obama in the first place...
and let's get one thing clear: he is no JFK.

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this is america, and hopefully it will stay that way. they can boo. Just like Michele Bernard can make an ass out of herself with her joke:
"well we didn't get 40 acres ad a mule but we got 50 states!"
to a stunned chris matthews, who then himself said something totally stupid:
"Just looking at a black man standing next to a white man is different now, it just lokks different doesn't it Spike?"
Spike Lee:"Everything has changed Chris."
?????????what? it still looked the same to me, does it look different to any of you?
ahhhhh... America, gotta love it.

Why ? Here is WHY....

43rd president of the United States.
first ever with a criminal record.
our third story tonight,
his presidency: eight years in eight minutes.

early in 2001 the U.S. fingered Al Qaeda
for the bombing of the USS Cole
Bush counterterrorism adviser Richard Clarke
had a plan to take down Al Qaeda.
instead by February the NSC
had already discussed invading Iraq,
and had a plan for post-Saddam Iraq.

by March 5 Bush had a map ready for Iraqi oil exploration
and a list of companies.
Al Qaeda?
Rice told Clarke not to give Bush a lot of long memos.
not a big reader.

source





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Well the 'just' thing to do, would have been a deafening silence by everyone.
That would probably hurt them more than a few hillbilly's shouting.

Anyway people want a fixed center to draw their hate to. It's easier on the mind for many, but never right. Even the soldier on the front is responsible.

Bush did exactly what he was hired to do. He played the Roman Governor of the tyrant side to get all of us so sick of being sick and tired wed do just about anything for CHANGE. Classic thing they use to do back during the Roman Empire days. Then after that tyrant broke everyone down they would send in the savior governor.

If anyone should be Booed it should be all of us. The joke is on us and we deserve whatever horrors happen at this point. Enjoy your last little piece of apple pie, chevrolet, and stock portfolios you have left...time is definately something you do not have..

I liked how on CNN one reporter commenting - when camera pans over the crowd - on how 'any one of them could be a terrorist', and another commentator saying 'yes but that is the chance they take'. Like your president is making such a huge sacrifice, leaving himself open to the savage masses.

Pathetic.

First I'd like to say to jso that I realize what a staunch republican, and I feel right to say staunch conservative you are. So with that point made, I'd like to say your attitude is the right one for all of us to have. We never know if we have just elected the worst president of all times, or the best leader the country has ever had until the person takes on the role. So your attitude is the one ALL Americans should have now - to give him a chance.

Second, I agree that the booing session was totally classless and it really doesn't matter how I feel about Bush/Cheney. The argument is not that Bush or Cheney does or does not deserve to be boo'd. The argument here is that the occasion was not right for this immature display. And it was disappointing to me as well to see that such a large number of people didn't understand that.

With that said, I'm not ashamed to be an American because of it. It was slightly embarrassing, but it was only one small (relative to all the people there and all the people who make up America) group of people who have no class. I do not believe the world will think ill of us. In fact, in some part of the world, they'll be amazed we have such freedom...even if we don't have the class to use the freedom properly.

In short, it was something that shouldn't have happened...but in the big picture, it aint no big thang.

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LOL, wow. No offense but your rant connect many things that aren't even connected, and blames many things as the causes of events that had no impact. Its a normal thing for people the do. Its human nature. But a ill informed rant it is non the less. In fact, I would go as far as to say it hurts discussion by falsely connecting things.

hmmmm....lack of class......not so sure about that as most folks probably felt a sense of pent up relief and therefore exhibited it - probably could have been done under "better circumstances" but hey - when has there been better circumstances the last 8 years??

I noted that it sure seemed that Obama was taking very subtle "pot shots" at the outgoing administration in alot of what he said - did anyone note the expression on Bushes face after hearing this from Obama -

"but also our collective failure to make hard choices and prepare the nation for a new age."

or this

"On this day, we gather because we have chosen hope over fear, unity of purpose over conflict and discord."

or

"On this day, we come to proclaim an end to the petty grievances and false promises"

It seems that our new President is in tune to just how frustrated most of us are with "our" government and it'll be nothing short of a miracle if he can change that frustration into something positive......for us, rather than those around him.

Here's hoping for a miracle

Ohhh Bush deserved it. Nothing is going to bring my cousin back, who relentlessly fought against being sent to fight in Iraq, and came home in a coffin.

And before anyone gets started on me about my cousin knowing what he was getting into when he joined the military, he didn't join to fight an illegal invasion all based on a lie.

Bush took a crap all over my family's lives. I couldn't jump for joy enough seeing him fly away back to Texas.

Bush lying to this country, is that class?

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