Adolf Hitler, Sisters Taken from Parents' Home

reply to post by greeneyedleo


Only laws i know of are you cannot use symbols or other names that are intentionally not able to be entered into there DB..

My cats names are Hitler, Stalin, Commie, And Murder

I probably wouldn't hesitate to name my kids any of those . What the quote I'm looking for .. "Whats in a name?" "A rose by any other name" Ect..

In theory, there needs to be a given reason and paperwork to have a child(ren) removed from a home.

I would love to see the actual charges/excuse given as the children were removed.

I agree, if those names are considered child abuse in the state of NJ, why was the name(s) allowed to be registered.

Personally, I suspect someone saw the names when it was in the news and decided that they (whoever they are) found it unacceptable.
What I mean is that that person(s) were unaware of the names until it hit the news.

In all honesty, I wonder what any school would think of those names.

Originally posted by d11_m_na_c05
reply to post by greeneyedleo

 

Only laws i know of are you cannot use symbols or other names that are intentionally not able to be entered into there DB..

My cats names are Hitler, Stalin, Commie, And Murder

I probably wouldn't hesitate to name my kids any of those . What the quote I'm looking for .. "Whats in a name?" "A rose by any other name" Ect..

Since cats are pets, it may not be a big deal.

I have a friend who named his dog hooker. (seriously)

I suspect, if he named his child that, it "may" be an issue.

Here is an intersting article on names. It is long, but there are some good examples on crazy names and good examples on some courts stepping in.

www.setexasrecord.com...


Here is a case where a Judge stepped in...though it does not take place in America:

But at least one judge has taken strong action against a parent's questionable choice in children's names. Judge Rob Murfitt of Wellington, New Zealand, encountered a 9-year-old girl involved in a custody battle; her parents had christened her "Talula Does The Hula From Hawaii."

Judge Murfitt made the girl a ward of the court so that her name could be changed, after hearing testimony about her embarrassment over the bizarre appellation. He observed, "The court is profoundly concerned about the very poor judgment which this child's parents have shown in choosing this name. It makes a fool of the child and sets her up with a special disability and handicap, unnecessarily."

I've been called upon in the past to help make a child's life easier through a name change. On one occasion, I successfully petitioned a court to change the name for a boy who was constantly tormented by his peers; it seems Mr. and Mrs. Krueger had sorely underestimated the lasting popularity of a certain "Nightmare on Elm Street" movie villain when they chose the name Frederick for their son (memo to the Lecters: anything but Hannibal, please: school cafeterias will be tough enough for your child to deal with as it is).

[edit on 1/14/2009 by greeneyedleo]

reply to post by mrmonsoon


Funny you say that since my G/Fs family name is Hooker .. Its there last name but still ...

Naming your kid after after a mass murderer, 70 years after the fact, constitutes imho probable cause. Given that nearly all sane people revile that genocidal madman, and only neo-nazi, KKK, white supremicist groups idolize him, the state could be argue that indoctrination/brainwashing into a hate group endangers the child's well-being.

However, if the state chooses to go that route, the next step could be with any religious organizations who speaks out against the state. In my mind the mormons, after passing prop 8, certainly qualify as a hate group hiding behind the mantle of religion.

This sets a very dangerous precendent, but every day for the last 8 has I've seen lines crossed that I thought were uncrossable, and rights violated at an ever increasing rate.
This is a very dangerous time to live in.

In Germany theres are laws, you can´t just name your children what you want. When you register it they check the names in a book if its weird.

Adolf Hitler isn´t really nice name for a child, imagine the hassle it´ll get in school. And it could give the child inspiration to live up to the name which would also be counterproductive.

Just shows how famous people can mess up a certain name, although lots of people are called "Adolf".

And look at the mustache originally made popular by Charley Chaplin, because Hitler copied it now one has such a mustache any more.

Originally posted by greeneyedleo
The parents arent even talking to anyone regarding this. This leads me to believe they are guilty of something. They had NO issues telling the world about their kid not getting a cake due to the name - so if they were taken away due to the names (I doubt it) why wouldnt they be screaming to the world now for such a ridiuclous reason?

How do we know they aren't screaming about it? Besides, nowhere does it say they went screaming to anyone about the cake. All it said was that they would like an apology. Also, they were taken away last night. I'm sure they have more concerns than running to the media right now.

reply to post by th3dudeabides


Does the same apply if i was to say name my kid ... Pope Alexander.. Or after any other person responsible for the Crusades?

Just wondering ..

Originally posted by d11_m_na_c05
Does the same apply if i was to say name my kid ... Pope Alexander.. Or after any other person responsible for the Crusades? Just wondering ..

You know, sometimes you just can't match up theory and real life. You can throw out lots of challenges and hypothetical corollaries and slippery slopes, but these parents need a real good societal slap upside the head. If their parenting skills need to be reviewed with extreme prejudice, then so be it.

But it is obvious that this is not a measure to be used capriciously. Let it play out, sez me.

Everyone seems to be assuming that the reason that the kids were removed from the home is just because of the names. I doubt that is the case. I live in NJ and there is no law on the books stating that you can't name your kid Adolf Hitler. I think the parents are complete tools for doing so but that does not make it illegal.

There is more to this story that has not come out yet. There must have been some mental or physical abuse going on for the state of NJ to remove the children.

Originally posted by d11_m_na_c05
reply to post by mrmonsoon

 

Funny you say that since my G/Fs family name is Hooker .. Its there last name but still ...

No disrespect meant to your G/F's last name.

But for the point, what if her parents named her cheap????

Just saying..............

Better wait to see what the real reason for taking them away is. If it turns out to be because of their names though, I for one would be extremely mad and getting the best lawyer I could find. There are so many worse names out there.. In my years of customer service I remember talking to atleast 4 different Adolf Hitler ...(something) but there were alot worse names. For example I went to school with a girl names #head pronounced Shi-thead..spelled.. well yeah. I also went to school with someone names 5/8s Tillery. Everyone called him 5/8.. (five eighths) So... yeah :/ But I'm going to remain hopeful that this has far more to do with home life than name.

I beg to disagree. It's one thing for a parent to offer up a ridiculous name...Zappa's kids are a fine example. But they are blessed with living with unorthodox parents, and can always assume a nickname


Totally Tubular Frank Zappa died in 1993. The kids only have their mom now.

Just a point of clarity.

Oops I over edited the quote. It was directed to comment by JohnnyCanuck

[edit on 14-1-2009 by jibeho]

reply to post by questioningall


They should come to the Philippines, then.

One journalist friend told me of an interview he had with a Hitler Manila.

Still, that experience did not stop him from carrying on the family tradition. His sons are named Himmler and Hess after two of Hitler's closest associates.

news.bbc.co.uk...

I knew there would be a thread about this once i read the article. If they took the kids away because of the name then thats pretty anti-American in my opion. Most people think Hitler was a horrible evil man rightfully so, but if they want to teach there kids he was hero then they have a right to because this is America. As stupid and wrong as it might be there the victims here there being persecuted for there beliefs, and thats not right.

reply to post by JohnnyCanuck


Exactly! naming your kid Apple or Moon Unit while strange, isn't offensive. Naming your child Adolf Hitler, another Hinler, another Aryan Nation, well, just shows the parents are NAZIs. I think they did the right thing taking the kids from them. Three less Neo Nazis to worry about.

Its ironic how the only remaining Hitler supporters are the very people Hitler would have had sterilized if he were around today.

Its also ironic that parents of the master race can't even spell Himmler properly.


Removing the children from their family probably isn't moral and is a bit nanny state; but frankly I find it hard to care.

That wasn't a good bold American name!

You will only name your children according to what is acceptable on THIS list!

******
(the list)
******

Your children will now be confiscated by the government and raised in a manor to which your government deems best for nationalism and loyalty.

For the glory of our empire!
As a reward for losing your children, you will only be fined half the regular rations than usual.



...lol...
Seriously, if I name my child Mussolini, would anyone care?
You know who that is right?

[edit on 14-1-2009 by johnsky]

Originally posted by GamerGal
[Three less Neo Nazis to worry about.

What if America had lost the war for independence and then a couple had a child taken off them because they named him after Ben Franklin. Then people would would say good one less Yankee in the world the fact is these people where persecuted against there were denied the right to free speech and expression and that is wrong.

Do you think these kids are going to grow up thinking there parents were wrong. I doubt it there going to remeber being taken away from there home this isn't going to change there beliefs its going to galvanize them.