Alien artifacts discovered underneath crop circles

I actually found something in the ground 18 yrs ago digging a hole for a tree.
I don't know if it's a petrified goose egg or a geode but it's kinda blue-ish crystal like some type of quartz or something.
Wonder if it's worth anything??

It is a celestial body entering our Solar System.
The 4 connected circles being the sun.
The object affects the spin of certain planets, or the plants have affected the trajectory of the object. Unclear, you can decypher either way.

What it does show is a cross over earth, like a bullseye, or target.
However, the object continues a PATH, affects Mercury, and passes by the sun.

Having come so close to earth, and the earth having changed the object's path so dramatically, you can only assume that that the object comes close enough to earth as to affect our magnetic stability.

One can assume a 'flip' is natural and happens every time we pass the Central Galactic Plane. Like when you go south of the border, how the toilets flow in the opposite direction.

On the same note, you can also assume a flip has the possibility to occur given the gravitational force of a foreign object destabilizing temporarliy our magnetic field.

An Ancient flight path...would be one way to look at it.

reply to post by rich23


can you show ANY evidence that the plates were actually burried - OTHER THAN the testimony of thier alledged discoverer

who - MAY be a hoaxer

what i have in mind is a single take video - shown virgin - undisturbed ground being dug untill the plate is slowly revealed

because all the have now is a few poor quality pics of holes - and the testimony of people with a vested interest

and lastly - not diredced at you - but the entire thread

are there any hi res pictures of the plates ?? showing front and back views - with scale markers

and also - the scientific reports - assay analysis results etc

because i cannot locate either - which is disturbing - as they have had 17 years

and photos take a couple of hours - sample analysis a few weeks

reply to post by ignorant_ape


I've looked and asked MANY times in this thread for the same questions you're asking. I don't believe you'll find any, cause this entire thing sounds like a huge hoax.

-If those plates were real, then I imagine they would be considered a true artifact, regardless of where it supposedly came from. Artifacts like that would most definitely be kept somewhere secure for either testing or to be put on display.

-If these plates truly did come from aliens, then I'm sure the government would have been all over it, and would have collected the plates. They didn't.

-If these plates were real, who in their right mind would just melt them?


*sniff sniff*

Do you smell that? Smells like a hoax to me.

If these crop circles are so prevalant why not just place satellites in consecutive orbits so as to film and photograph all these fields at once, overlapping so there is no blank spots or transmission losses to affect the continuity.
We'd know then once and for all what makes them. Not crappy imaging devices either, but the ones which can zero in on your mailbox and read your letters in your hands. Have them monitored round the clock and forbid governments from classifying them. Make them observable to anyone with a PC. And don't zoom them in or out so much that a clear shot isn't had of these things being formed.
The right for the world to know whether these things have an explainanble origin or are expensively maintained hoax (even the crops destroyed aren't cheap- that's real food which could have been eaten) outweighs any right to privacy or security that dissenters could argue.

It is knowledge that belongs to the world. So does the industrialist's artifact for that matter, why isn't it in a museum?

The solutions to these problems is so simple, yet, noone forces them to be achieved. Why?

Originally posted by PhyberDragon
If these crop circles are so prevalant why not just place satellites in consecutive orbits so as to film and photograph all these fields at once, overlapping so there is no blank spots or transmission losses to affect the continuity.
We'd know then once and for all what makes them. Not crappy imaging devices either, but the ones which can zero in on your mailbox and read your letters in your hands. Have them monitored round the clock and forbid governments from classifying them. Make them observable to anyone with a PC. And don't zoom them in or out so much that a clear shot isn't had of these things being formed.
The right for the world to know whether these things have an explainanble origin or are expensively maintained hoax (even the crops destroyed aren't cheap- that's real food which could have been eaten) outweighs any right to privacy or security that dissenters could argue.

It is knowledge that belongs to the world. So does the industrialist's artifact for that matter, why isn't it in a museum?

The solutions to these problems is so simple, yet, noone forces them to be achieved. Why?

Great idea but it probably isn't done because of the cost... and you know how it works these days... if it's not making more money than what it would cost to perform the job... why do it?
If everything didn't revolve around profit, I think we would be much further along as a species...

Originally posted by ziggystar60
Here is an article with some more information:

Plate two (bronze color) consisted of a copper-tin alloy (of which the tin content amounted to 10%-15%), nickel and traces of iron amounting to less than 0.

mmmgroup.altervista.org...

Sorry if someone already brought this up, and I tried to get on the site with the information, but couldn't. I guess the part that says nickle and traces of iron amounted to less than zero is a typo? You can't have a negative amount of metal, and if it was a trace, it wouldn't be zero either!

I am amazed that all these years after crop circles were completely, totally and comprehensively debunked people are still banging on about them.

Crop circles are remarkable artifacts for one reason though; they are simultaneously a testament to mankind's ingenuity and mankind's gullibility.

The simplest, and therefore most likely by far, hypothesis here is that some clown copied the plates for his CC design and then buried them at key points. However no evidence presented whatsoever that they were ever in situ so an even simpler explanation was that they were never at the site at all.

Deffinatly lacking evidence. I have gotten less convinced as i read through the post

WHERE ARE THE PHOTOS? WHERE IS VIDEO?

I know sure as hell i would be takingalot of photos while dug them up. Even if you didn't get digging the 1st one on camera, i think you would film the others. And take photos LOTS OF PHOTOS

convenient that there isn't any photos aye ;-)

on the other hand,

alot of people are only thinking that aliens put them here

couldn't they have been made by us humans however many years ago, buried and then the Aliens have created the crop circles over them?

maybe hoping that we will find them and dig them up,


I guess EVERY crop circle has to be metal detected now, has anyone been doing it frequently?

Just my 2p

[edit on 18-1-2009 by estavilso]

reply to post by estavilso


"couldn't they have been made by us humans however many years ago, buried and then the Aliens have created the crop circles over them?"

That is what I have been leaning towards.

We have no idea how many years these plates were buried. Unfortunately we can't know since they are destroyed.

Originally posted by Exuberant1
reply to post by estavilso

 

"couldn't they have been made by us humans however many years ago, buried and then the Aliens have created the crop circles over them?"

That is what I have been leaning towards.

We have no idea how many years these plates were buried. Unfortunately we can't know since they are destroyed.

Yea I think a bunch of us came to that opinion... that is of course if it's not a hoax
Seems reasonable that they might have been made from ancient man but if there isn't anymore info to be pulled up from this story, then I have to lean towards a hoax or somebody learned a great deal of knowledge and wants to keep it to themselves...

Dropa stones? look almost the same to me.

A Good find this.

I wonder who the owner of the plates is?
Normally such finds belong to the German state when they are found you have to give them up, so how come they were allowed to keep and sell these things?

Originally posted by bicnarok
A Good find this.

I wonder who the owner of the plates is?
Normally such finds belong to the German state when they are found you have to give them up, so how come they were allowed to keep and sell these things?

Because this is a hoax.

Originally posted by Lookingup

Originally posted by ziggystar60
Here is an article with some more information:

Plate two (bronze color) consisted of a copper-tin alloy (of which the tin content amounted to 10%-15%), nickel and traces of iron amounting to less than 0.

mmmgroup.altervista.org...

Sorry if someone already brought this up, and I tried to get on the site with the information, but couldn't.

I checked the link now, and I couldn't get on the site either. I get a message saying: "Traffico temporaneamente bloccato" (traffic is temporarily blocked). Let's hope the site will be up and running again soon.

Here is a working link to another article about the case, but the images (hosted by photobucket) are no longer available:
www.alienufosecret.eu...





[edit on 19/1/09 by ziggystar60]

Originally posted by Faiol
anyone noticing some kind of problem in these images?

i41.tinypic.com...

mmmgroup.altervista.org...

[edit on 14-1-2009 by Faiol]

it cant be from the same place

[edit on 14-1-2009 by Faiol]

Yeah.. the plate is not exactly the same as the CC - the 'glyph' on the far right is missing the bottom part. Is that what you're seeing ?

Actually... there's quite a lot of differences, definately not done very accurately - it looks like poor metallurgy work.

[edit on 1/19/09 by mortalengine]

The plates are genuine. They have been left to provide a connection between the circle creators and psychic sensitives interested in understanding crop circles. The symbols on the plates relate to future comet strikes on the planet. A full interpretation is available in the new forthcoming book "The Heck Hypothesis" available this spring, along with interpretations of over 1000 other circles.

reply to post by Truther


Its only a matter of time guys. They will show themselves with in the next 3 years. THING ARE ABOUT TO GET WEIRD AROUND HERE!

what type crop was the circle in? I'm guessing wheat. Does Anyone know the standard depth at which wheat (or whichever crop) is plowed? 18 inches isn't very deep to plow for agricultural land development, and since this is the reported depth at which the plates were found, I'm wondering how they weren't discovered durin the initial OR seasonal cultivation of the land. Just a thought. ALso, I'm an avid believer in UFO/ET's, I do not, however believe the circles are alien in nature or design. think about it, If an incredibly advanced alien civilization, wanted to initiate dialogue with us would they use cryptic pictographs and glyphs? Or would they simply provide us irrefutable proof 1st of their existence, and then their desire to open communications. Again, we as humans, being inheritantly arrogant creatures, can't begin to fathom what a race of beings that far ahead of us (interstellar/dimensional flight) would and could do. But here's a hint...our current modes of propulsion, and proposed "advanced" modes I development right now, are roughly equivlant to us using horses and carriages and them having rockets. Try more research into radioactive particles abundantly available in open space (their aircraft move far faster outside our athmosphere than within). I think you'll find the implications mind-boggling to say the least

Originally posted by TheWorldReallyIsThatBorin
I am amazed that all these years after crop circles were completely, totally and comprehensively debunked people are still banging on about them.

Crop circles are remarkable artifacts for one reason though; they are simultaneously a testament to mankind's ingenuity and mankind's gullibility.

The simplest, and therefore most likely by far, hypothesis here is that some clown copied the plates for his CC design and then buried them at key points. However no evidence presented whatsoever that they were ever in situ so an even simpler explanation was that they were never at the site at all.

These 'artifacts' do stink of a hoax, for certain. But in general the crop circle thing - well, I still am keeping an open mind on that one. Yes, some brits managed to form a circle in a field with some boards and rope, but to make some of the amazingly accurate geometric patterns by the dark of night would require resources that random dudes with a board are incapable of. And they have yet to make a mistake??!

Am I saying that there is no way they are man-made? No.

What I am saying is that I still do not understand HOW they are made and therefore I am keeping an open mind on the subject. I think it is certainly plausible that these are made by man, but it makes me wonder if this is some sort of secret club at a university or something...

In fact, I find your usage of the phrase "crop circles were completely, totally and comprehensively debunked" about a dubious as these plates since I have yet to see a comprehensive debunking of some of the more elaborate circles out there.