It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
In spring of 1996, Jarrah left Lebanon for the first time and went to Greifswald, Germany for college. There, he was more known for attending discos and beach parties than mosques. He met a female dentistry student named Aysel Sengün and the two fell in love. She was Muslim, but also very secular. In 1997, Jarrah switched colleges and majors, and started studying aerospace engineering in Hamburg.
He graduated with honors from high school, then attended Imam Muhammad Ibn Saud Islamic University where he earned a degree
Wail graduated from Abha teacher’s college in 1999. After college, al-Shehri worked as an elementary school physical education teacher at the Khamis Mushayat airbase.
He also frequented Al-Seqley mosque, and attended Abha teachers college for some time before dropping out.
Al-Suqami studied Islamic law at King Fahd University in Riyadh.
[/quote
Marwan Al-Shehhi
Al-Shehhi first came to Bonn, Germany in 1996, on scholarship from the UAE Army to study marine engineering.
Majed Moqed
Moqed later attended King Fahd University.
Ahmen Al_Nami
At King Khalid University, Al Nami studied Islamic law, and he started hanging out with a different group of friends
www.debunk911myths.org...
You can find all of the above information at that link....or in any number of any other media links online. No, all of the hijackers didnt attend university, but quite a few did, as did the London bombers. Again, not quite the sheep herders you portray them as.
Originally posted by adam_zapple
Originally posted by Intothepitwego
Originally posted by adam_zapple
Did they make noise when they collapsed? Then there was resistance.
[]It fell at the speed of gravity.[/] How terribly weak the lower portions must have been to fall apart so easily but hey, at least it made noise.
There is no "speed of gravity". Earth's gravity has an []acceleration[/] rate, but the collapses were all SLOWER than that. You might want to check your math.
Originally posted by adam_zapple
As to the "breakdown of physics", why don't you explain, using physics, why the collapses were impossible. (As soon as you can explain why it is you think the collapses were "symmetrical")
Originally posted by adam_zapple
No...you seem to think that the path of least resistance is off to the side...I'm just trying to show you how silly that assumption is.
So instead of falling straight down, the pieces of the building that were collapsing should have somehow moved outside the towers since there was less resistance there? What, exactly, would have moved them?
Every time a building collapses, every time something falls to the ground, gravity has overcome its resistance.
The more mass there is, the more force that gravity imparts to the object.
You keep claiming that the collapses were "symmetrical". What is this claim based on besides the fact that you've heard other people say it?
NEAR free fall is not the same as free fall. There was resistance so stop claiming there wasn't.
As to the "breakdown of physics", why don't you explain, using physics, why the collapses were impossible. (As soon as you can explain why it is you think the collapses were "symmetrical")
Symmetrical; noting a set consisting of pairs of points having this relation with respect to the same axis.
Its called common sense.
DNA fingerprinting would settle the controversy, as fragmentary remains of all the hijackers have been found. Jarrah's family has indicated they would be willing to provide DNA samples to US researchers, but the FBI has shown no interest thus far.
I have a question. who was doing the cleanup? was it everyday NY construction joes or were they government employees?
Originally posted by Gonenuts
reply to post by Swampfox46_1999
DNA fingerprinting would settle the controversy, as fragmentary remains of all the hijackers have been found. Jarrah's family has indicated they would be willing to provide DNA samples to US researchers, but the FBI has shown no interest thus far.
www.fact-archive.com...
Well, now we know the truths don’t we? The FBI has never done any DNA on any of the highjackers! This is the link you are getting your lying info from.
So far you have presented nothing but hearsay from the US government the OS that is a LIE.
NO DNA WAS EVER DONE, TO IDENTIFY ANY OF THE HIGHJACKERS!
Originally posted by ANOK
What happens when an object falls on another of equal mass? Does it continue its path through the object? Or does it either stop due to resistance, or fall off the side of the object it hit?
Originally posted by ANOK
And the more mass there is the more resistance it imparts. But again this is a mute point because nothing fell on the buildings, nothing was added to it that hadn't always been there.
Originally posted by ANOK
You could completely sever ALL the columns around it's circumference and the top would still NOT fall through the rest of the building.
Originally posted by ANOK
You keep claiming that the collapses were "symmetrical". What is this claim based on besides the fact that you've heard other people say it?
You know what symmetrical means right? It means all 4 corners of the buildings dropped at the same time.
Originally posted by ANOK
NEAR free fall is not the same as free fall. There was resistance so stop claiming there wasn't.
OH OK so it's down to your refusal to see common sense. The buildings could have taken twice as long to collapse, it would still be too fast.
Originally posted by ANOK
Show me ANY building in history that has collapsed at anything close to free-fall speed without help.
Originally posted by ANOKThe few seconds faster than free-fall could be put down to simply air resistance, because it sure didn't meet any resistance from it's undamaged structure.
Wrong. The speed at which the collapses progressed was SLOWER than the falling debris outside the tower which was subject to air resistance. So air wasn't the only thing resisting collapse.
Originally posted by ANOK
All 3 buildings, all four corners fell at the same time, or within seconds of each other. This is only possible when ALL supports fail equally. If only one columns remains standing the building will not collapse symmetrically, demolition 101.
Source for this claim?
What's the highest level physics course you've completed with a passing grade? Your understanding of physics is certainly flawed. Since you don't seem to care what I think, why don't you discuss your thoughts with a physics professor........unless you think they're all "in on it".
[edit on 17-1-2009 by adam_zapple]
Originally posted by adam_zapple
Please provide an example of a non-symmetrical building collapse.
Originally posted by lycopersicum
1-and as far as thermo expansion, you do realize the fire was not hot enough that was recorded that day to cause any shrinkage of any kind
2- on the 110,000 psi construction steel used in the construction of all the towers with WTC7 being the strongest built building of all 7 buildings
3-2000 degrees for atleast 2 hours and then we would only see minor shrinkage start to happen
4-and steel only shrinks where heat is applied and yeas i have done plenty of research on the subject of thermo dynamics friend
5-all the steel was rated without any fire proofing to be raised to a temperature of 2000 degrees and could have been that temperature for over 2 hours
6-before any shrinkage even begun to effect the steel and any shrinkage would have not been enough to snap any welds ,
7-the metal used was 6010 filler welding rods and 7018 cover rods
8-both welding rods used where stronger than any of the steel used in all 7 buildings
9-would hhave had to been superheated to 2000 degrees or better right .
10-so why dont you do some of your own research ive done plenty
11-because first, all i want to know is from the official story says fire weakend the steel
12-well thermodynamics tells us absolutly noway in hell could that be true
13-there was also molten steel found that day, it was filmed pouring out of the buildings and found on the ground by firemen
14-,and thermodynamics tells us thats absolutly imposable also
15-and no open air flame could ever i mean ever reach 2000 , so the fire seen that day had nothing to do with any weakening of anyof the steel that day
16-AND THAT IS A THERMODYNAMIC FACT.
Originally posted by lycopersicum
and yes i am quit aware metal expands when heated
Originally posted by esdad71
DNA testing has been done and the remains 1dentified.