Ukrainian Serial Killer Video

Used the search feature here to see if there were any posts on it couldn't find any. This has been floating around on the net for a while. Theres a pretty violent terrible video out there of this Ukrainian gang killing a guy. I won't link to the video because its really disturbing but its not hard to find through Google.

link to article boingboing.net...

Sick.

Here the liveleak video of them in court.
LiveLeak Video S4W





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[edit on 10/1/2009 by n0b0DY]

Ok, I really wish I didn't watch that video. I feel sick, freaked out and seriously disturbed after seeing that. No one's fault but my own for being curious. I, in no way thought it could be as bad as that. My god? That was horrible!

Is there anything on what their punishment was? Hopefully slow torture, then death?

I can handle human gore pretty well (except for animals), but this one really took the cake. What kind of upbringing and social problems did these freaks have?

ditto, wish i hadn't watched that, what is the world coming to?, i dont think you'll get many stars and flags for this one. quite honestly the sickest thing i have ever seen

This is why i belive there has to be a God. Death is too good for these piece of *snips*. They need to suffer an eternity of torment. Sick, evil, twisted demons. They aren't even human. I can;t express the sheer hate and anger I feel.

Urgh, i came accross this recently online as well. Extremely disgusting.

Yeah, i wish i hadn't seen this either, i don't really understand what people think they accomplish with this sort of behaviour.

You do hear all the time about people abusing and torturing other people. Usually they start with torturing animals and then move to humans. Remember the stories of kids in the U.S. beating up "bums" on the street while taking a video of it? It was rampant for a while.
These sorts usually pick on someone who is weaker. They are just cowards themselves who must have a terrible self image.
I unfortunately do not think this is so rare. Guys in wartime get all psyched up over the opportunity to blow the face off their enemy. I had someone make a similar statement only recently to me on another thread.
The video camera is only a tool that has revealed the darker part of human nature -- a part that has always been there, but hidden.
Have we seen the worst of it? I doubt it.

The death penalty is too good for some people, in my opinion. These murderers deserve to die the same way they murdered so many other people.

They will not receive the death penalty, because Ukraine abolished it when it applied to join the EU. Chances are, that with relatively lax Ukrainian laws these scumbags may even get out of prison at some point in the future. Russia has much the same problem as Ukraine in this respect. In both countries the average sentence for murder is only 10 years. Almost no one is given life sentences.

In addition to this, there has been a media blackout regarding this case in Ukraine. The trials are behind closed doors, and it is unlikely the public will know the sentencing anytime soon.

I couldn't watch the video... Things like that have a tendency to remain lodged in your soul for a long time.

www.dnepropetrovskmaniacs.com...

The link is a video translation, which describes the horror of one of the murders.

I am so glad i didn't watch it and can only hope that these sick individuals get what they deserve.

I don't know what is more disturbing, the fact that they so hideously killed people or the fact they they attended the victims funerals.

[edit on 11-1-2009 by mr-lizard]

I went to the link to watch the video. Mostly in part to observe the guys, not the murder, trying to understand how someone could bring themselves to do such a thing. I work at a hospital and do fine with blood and guts. I've seen people come in who have been hit by trains..you name it, ive probably seen it. I'm not a doctor but I work registration at a hospital that is the highest trauma hospital in a 90 mile radius. So we get everything in the ER. and since im the person that gets the info, i have to be present in the rooms when people come in. This is just a job while i finish up college.

Anyway, I saw about 4 seconds and literally almost threw up. I covered my eyes and clicked it off and was practically in tears for this poor man. I have never seen anything more disturbing in my WHOLE LIFE. Wish I had never seen the 4 seconds that I did. I would advise everyone who has not seen it, NOT to watch it. Im telling you, it is horrid....and I only saw a very tiny bit, so i cant imagine how much worse it gets. What human could possibly bring themselves to do such a thing is beyond my comprehension....and i am glad it is. These boys have crossed over into a realm of such evil. I should have never gone to look. Never again will I let my curiosity get the best of me.

the news clip that showed what they did to animals...I covered my eyes immediatly. I can NOT see animals hurt. I could never even kill an animal for food. ( I dont think hunting for food is wrong) but there are just certain things people don't have the capability to do. I am perfectly fine handling myself in matters of self defense..but it goes no further than that. Gosh, May God have mercy on the man that is buying these videos and putting them out on the internet for profit. No punishment that we can give would be sufficent for what these boys did. One day they will stand before God......and then they will truely know what it is like to be defenseless.

I am also an NIU student as you can see by my logo and was living on campus at the shootings last year. I've never seen an actual murder before, and this just intensified my disgust and saddness for the tragedy that happened at my school. My poor classmates. May the Lord be with them.

Nothing against the OP, but maybe this forum should be removed so as not to further the distribution of something so profane.

Kind Regards,
digitalgrl





[edit on 1/11/2009 by DigitalGrl]

[edit on 1/11/2009 by DigitalGrl]

Originally posted by DigitalGrl
Nothing against the OP, but maybe this forum should be removed so as not to further the distribution of something so profane.

I would agree... Simply telling people not to go and find that is not enough, it didn't work for me, and for 99.9% of people that is too much. And I don't want to ever meet the other 0.1%.

Ok I found the video and I just saw it. I was expecting more after reading all the comments.
I don't see why people are freaking out so much, I've seen worse things, in real life.
I am hearing that they were the sons of some important people and they got off. Is it true?
BTW what if these sort of things could be shown on the news what impact do you think they would have on society, to see the uncensored reality instead of the fake/peace of mind world it is presented?
Think about it. Imagine if they could show the uncensored footage from wars. Maybe if people could see what war really looks like they would not give governments their consent for wars so easily.
Well?

Okay I think they all got life. Apparently they also killed a pregnant women(cut out the fetus and all), a child and 18 other people. I am surprised that they moved from animals to people so soon. That usually doesn't happen until they're adults themselves.

[edit on 12-1-2009 by Elijio]

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I 100% agree with you. It accomplishes nothing to hide the gruesome realities from people, whether its about war, like you said, or hideous savages like these guys.
It would not surprise me that they came from wealthy or connected families. What they did is only a degree away from the kind of disrespect for human life that the PTB show in sending off our young to to kill innocents in meaningless wars or to die themselves. Its a mindset that says ordinary or powerless people have no intrinsic value. Its one that is shared equally by the PTB and these sick individuals.
Its not an aberration tho. We only think it is because people don't want to see it. Perhaps if more of us were tuned in to this reality we would be able to do something to resist it. As it is we just bury our heads in the sand and let the PTB commit the same kind of brutal savagery that these guys filmed themselves doing.

I wonder how long these pieces of S&%T will even survive in prison? I think that even the most hardcore criminals , once they find out what these kids have done, will mete out their own version of justice, and hopefully this gang of freaks will endure a long painful sentence from the prison inmates.

I watched. Had to shut it off though. I'm not too good when it comes to things like this that involve humans. If it's animals, it doesn't seem to bother me that much. Yet, I'm more pissed at people who kill animals than who kill people. You figure it out.

Anyway, I don't have a problem with this video being on the Internet. I know some people are calling for it to be removed, along with other videos like it. The reason people can't deal with videos like this is because we've been sterilized by the censorship of them. I'm not saying people should be able to view these videos and not be sick or disturbed. I'm simply saying censorship leads to more problems than it solves.

Censorship is really hit and miss. Why is child pornography illegal to view, and the reason given is by people watching it they are encouraging more of it, but a murder like this isn't illegal to view for the same reason? Is what we are viewing not a crime? Is it not encouraging more of it?

I'm not saying make child pornography legal, and I'm not saying censor anything bad. It'd just be nice to get a little consistency out of the legal system is all.

not quite sure if you are making yourself 100% clear there, are you saying we should not censor child porn?, i am gonna take a wild guess here and say that all those who dont find it that bad are not parents?

For the people on this site who deny that real evil does in fact exist in this world...I hope they take a moment to have a gander at this video.

Let's see how you feel about your beliefs after you have watched...make sure the sound is up

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I thought I made myself perfectly clear actually. "I'm not saying make child pornography legal" as in legal to view. I was never questioning the legality of actually filming the sexual assault or rape of a child. I was talking about the viewing of the act, in which case I said, again: "I'm not saying make child pornography legal".

I'm just looking for some consistency. I don't want to be told I can't look at something because it's a crime and encourages more crimes like it only to be able to find a video of a different but similarly violent crime somewhere else on the Internet. At the very least there needs to be a better reason for why things are and are not illegal.

No where did I say viewing child pornography was not bad. Until I actually do say those words, it should be 100% clear. Don't put words in my mouth.

As for your comment about parents: As if parents are great people? Parents are the reason some people grow up to rape children and watch other people rape children. Parents rape their children on their own (check the Breaking News section for a recent news story about this). You say "all those who don't find it that bad are not parents" as if parents are upstanding citizens and simply being a parent makes you look down on child pornography. I know that would make a lot of people feel better to believe that, but it's simply not true.

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i have not put words into your mouth, i simply asked you to clarify your stand point on child porn, which you explained poorly, and poorly again even though i think i know what you are trying to convey , i am sorry if you feel that i have labled you a paedo, i have not, just wanted clarity.

when a person becomes a parent, it changes them and they become protective, (not all parents, there are a lot who are mental but the majority are good), when you hold your baby in your arms it changes you, when you view things like this you reflect your children into the events that these boys have created, what if they had got my baby or my father or my wife and unborn child, what would i do if it were my child doing the killings, i am not saying that other people who are not parents dont have these feelings, but that it is an emotion that is more prevelant in people who have a child to love and protect, this video will repulse them more than it would a younger single person who spends their time playing consol games that involve shooting people in the face and laughing as their head explodes on the wall behind them,
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