Livecam from Gaza

Originally posted by johnsky

That building really is burning quite heavily now.

Again, I really hope everyone got out... and doesn't get shot by Israeli forces as they leave.

[edit on 15-1-2009 by johnsky]

i wouldnt count on that. if this is a test project for there weaponaries, they will take all the specimen they can. oh and anyone know what the israeli airforce consist of???

Barak wanted to stop the attacks couple of days ago but Ohlmert say you and Levni have agreed and I`m in charge...And Barak is the Defense-Minister, he knows that Israel won`t make more progress against Hamas...only destroying now against everybody..It`s like a political fight now going on between this 3 (Levni,Ohlmert and Barak)

I think Ohlmert still has so much hate because of the failed war against Hisbollah he would like to kill everybody in Gaza now...And there is suddenly a political issue between US politicians if they should bring the transport-ship full of weapons from Greek to Israel...Behind the scenes there is a lot going on especially in Egypt.
I expect a ceasfire before weekend.

By the way...The close friends and 4 of their 4-7 year old children my uncle from Jordania wanted to visit to give jobs are all dead now ..He already had all the documents from Israel he needed and wanted to visit his friends on the 2nd day of the attack. This is defenitely a Genocide and shows the real face now from this regime in Israel..Because of 1 Primeminister so many people in a small place are dead now He should better hear on his Defense-Minister..He has more experience of a war and has begged Ohlmert to stop..Look at Levnis face,too....it should be a political war so that she will be the next Prime-Minister..What goes on in a mans mind like Ohlmert ????
You will never hear the real number of dead Israel soldiers because of positive-Propaganda in Israel...What is a Katusha missile..and some parts hand made to change their milage...compared to the whole weapon arsenal Israel has????
It`s really crazy..Especially that Ohlmert was in Turkey to talk with Erdogan and promised not to make any action before that Wednesday and Erdogan wanted to help Ohlmert to get prisoners back..The same did Levni in Egypt...Only to make the Hamas think they are safe in their congress-bunker...And who have been in that congress facility on the 1st day of war??? Only innocent policeman and other civil officers..around 200 people all together..So the war usually should have been over after 2 days..Israel thought that the Hamas-politicians never expect an attact on a holy Israel day.
But the Hamas knew to 90% that there was something going to happen and they all moved to another place.
And now Ohlmert is going mad, can`t understand that the Mossad has failed again and not want to lose his face.

Originally posted by schrodingers dog
Hey folks, new to the thread and I haven't read the whole thing so sorry if this has been asked before.

I'm looking at the usstream/ramattan feed.

Why does the feed keep getting interrupted by what seems like a Michelle Obama interview?

There are a few feeds, this is the one I'm using at the moment.
Gaza Live Feed


Michelle Obama interview?
...

Are you watching Fox or some celebrity gossip channel like it?

[edit on 15-1-2009 by johnsky]

so that building that we of course can't see..
is smoking pretty bad. but itsn't that blake smoke an indication
of, that the fire is choking and isn't really that bad? or.

hope the people that were in it were ok though..

ok new view of the fire. if it's the same on it looks rather bad.
the fires look pretty high up too..

Originally posted by SW phsyco

Originally posted by johnsky

That building really is burning quite heavily now.

Again, I really hope everyone got out... and doesn't get shot by Israeli forces as they leave.

[edit on 15-1-2009 by johnsky]

i wouldnt count on that. if this is a test project for there weaponaries, they will take all the specimen they can. oh and anyone know what the israeli airforce consist of???

F16's, F15's, F117 Nighthawks(stealth fighters), AH-64 Apaches, AH-1 Cobras, might be more aswell but that's all I know off the top of my head.

reply to post by makkerskilap


Yup, that building got hit badly... Still flames coming out of where the roof used to be.

Originally posted by makkerskilap
so that building that we of course can't see..
is smoking pretty bad. but itsn't that blake smoke an indication
of, that the fire is choking and isn't really that bad? or.

hope the people that were in it were ok though..

ok new view of the fire. if it's the same on it looks rather bad.
the fires look pretty high up too..

I don't think that's the same fire, I was pondering that one for a while, but no, two separate fires by the looks of it.


As for black smoke, the color of the smoke is indicative of what's being burnt.
Basically, both of those fires contain allot of Carbon.
That could mean the buildings were built using heavy natural materials, oil rich materials, or that the building is simply containing materials rich in Carbon, like organics.

[edit on 15-1-2009 by johnsky]

Originally posted by johnsky

Originally posted by schrodingers dog
Hey folks, new to the thread and I haven't read the whole thing so sorry if this has been asked before.

I'm looking at the usstream/ramattan feed.

Why does the feed keep getting interrupted by what seems like a Michelle Obama interview?

Michelle Obama interview?
...

Are you watching Fox or some celebrity gossip channel like it?

No.

Another member posted a link to the "ramattan" feed through ustream.tv and that's what I've been watching. I believe it's the same raw feed you just gave me just through a different server. But this one has Michelle Obama cutting in for a few seconds every five minutes. It's actually quite surreal.

Originally posted by schrodingers dog
Another member posted a link to the "ramattan" feed through ustream.tv and that's what I've been watching. I believe it's the same raw feed you just gave me just through a different server. But this one has Michelle Obama cutting in for a few seconds every five minutes. It's actually quite surreal.

Odd, I haven't seen that happen.

Perhaps it's accidental satellite signal interference?
I have no idea why you would see it and I wouldn't though, same server.

reply to post by johnsky


Here have a look at it for a few minutes ustream.tv

All kinds of strange stuff keeps cutting into the feed.

Wow, I just saw it cut to a whole slew of shots from different buildings.
Ramattan has really been working on getting feeds from other areas... originally it was just two buildings with about 3 cameras.

A few days ago I mean.

[edit on 15-1-2009 by johnsky]

Anyone else just see the guy on the roof with the camera with the keylar helmet?

Anyways, this is the modified Israeli AH-64d "Saraf".




[edit on 15-1-2009 by dcx_badass]

Originally posted by dcx_badass
Anyone else just see the guy on the roof with the camera with the keylar helmet?

Anyways, this is the modified Israeli AH-64d "Saraf".





[edit on 15-1-2009 by dcx_badass]

Yeah, I saw it.
Looked like either UN or Press.

And thanks for pointing that image out, now I know what to look for.

[edit on 15-1-2009 by johnsky]

Wow, just reading about the IAF
Around 100 F15's and over 350 F16s, largest amount outside the USA. They don't have the F117 Nighthawk listed, but I know they definately used to have some, not sure if they still do and wikipedia has it wrong.

reply to post by dcx_badass


You know what they say, a weapon is built because it's expected to be used.
... or...
A man builds a weapon intending to use it, not store it.

Something to that effect.



That's enough firepower to hold off an entire region, let alone a country.

[edit on 15-1-2009 by johnsky]

The UN will be pissed.... it's their HQ that the IDF has hit. The UN is prepairing to leave Gaza.

what was that they zoomed on parked in the distance?
a tank, truck or something?

reply to post by makkerskilap


That was a navy vessel

It would be great if they had a webcamera in Sderot aswell...

I saw them zoom in on what appeared to be an Israeli naval vessel no more than a Km away from the Gaza Sea Port.

Here:
31°31'21.76"N
34°25'29.40"E

That's where I estimate that ship to have been from working the angles.