New safety rules for children's clothes have stores in a fit

reply to post by greeneyedleo


Goodwill sells more than just kid clothes, toys, and other items. They will be ok.

Studies have shown that lead and phthalate have less effect on adults. However, when it comes to children in the womb up till puberty, the constant exposure damages them mental and physically. Causing learning disorders, other neurological disorders (causing children to need riddlin and antidepressants) asthma, severe allergies, and hormone problems including sterilization, and undecended testicles.

They have found enough in the toys and clothes they have tested - keep in mind they only recently started testing for lead in childrens items - that they were able to come to the conclusion that entirely too many items are dangerous for our kids.

I really dont see how they could have done it differently.

Judging from what I read, when a manufacturer creates an item, its tested, and certified. Then that item is marked with something like a bar code that would tell where it was made with what it was made, and when/by whom it was certified. Therefore, I am assuming, that the second hand stores would need to check each item to make sure it is certified before selling it.

As for boycotting China, Im all for it. Honestly though, I think this is the best most efficiant way to do it. IF they can produce something that is safe for our kids, then we will buy it. Until then, I think this will help brings jobs back to the US. Making it less cost effeciant to run a business in China.

I am also reading it as phthalate is/will be prohibited completely in the U.S.. I will be interested in seeing how they enforce that.

Originally posted by muzzleflash
Their lust for money is so great they do not care if kids go retarded from the poison.

"Kids go retarded"? From clothing? I can't remember ever hearing this. I can't even remember EVER hearing about kids getting sick because of their clothing!

Here's 4 searches I did on Google that came up empty.

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I couldn't find anything that said that children were actually getting sick because of their clothing!

Is there ANY proof out their that any child had become sick because of their clothing? (besides allergies)

I just haven't seen any proof yet!

[edit on 1/7/2009 by Keyhole]

Originally posted by Cairowoman
RFID in you NEW walmart clothes that you MUST buy!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kindly tell me who is going to force me to buy anything from Wal-Mart, let alone clothes? I personally won't set foot in a Wal-Mart store and I've yet to see the squads of police forcing me into a SuperCenter and making me shop at gunpoint.

Okay but let's consider the facts of recent years - we know tainted pet food came from China and two years in a row there were massive toy recalls because of lead paint in toys from major manufacturers, also coming from China.

Why are you guys throwing a huge fit over clothing? Consider how much exposure your children have to clothing that they WEAR ALL DAY in comparison to a toy that they play with maybe an hour or two per day!

If there's any truth to harmful lead or anything else on childrens clothes, then HELL YES I want to know about it, HELL NO I don't want it sold in my stores and if store owners don't like it they can go straight to hell. The well being of my child is far, far higher on my list than their stupid a$$ bottom line.

Originally posted by sos37
Okay but let's consider the facts of recent years - we know tainted pet food came from China and two years in a row there were massive toy recalls because of lead paint in toys from major manufacturers, also coming from China.

Why are you guys throwing a huge fit over clothing? Consider how much exposure your children have to clothing that they WEAR ALL DAY in comparison to a toy that they play with maybe an hour or two per day!

If there's any truth to harmful lead or anything else on children's clothes, then HELL YES I want to know about it, HELL NO I don't want it sold in my stores and if store owners don't like it they can go straight to hell. The well being of my child is far, far higher on my list than their stupid a$$ bottom line.

I went thru all the clothing Im donating soon and not one item of clothing was made in China. So if China is the one who has the lead issues (toys, etc) which it seems they are the culpret, then maybe they should ban all clothing/toys from CHINA from being resold.

I have clothing made in South America. I have never heard of problems with products from SA or Indonesia (another place clothing is made).

reply to post by greeneyedleo


My point is, now that we've seen that major brand have been proven not to be infallible, I don't understand those questioning why the law exists. Obviously they wouldn't have passed the law unless they found that some manufacturer, somewhere had been producing clothes with toxins in the dyes. It's a preventative measure, a proactive solution to a problem that could cause a lot of harm. Do we need to wait until 10,000 children become sick and maybe even die before we consider this problem real enough to be taken seriously?

Originally posted by Keyhole

Originally posted by muzzleflash
Their lust for money is so great they do not care if kids go retarded from the poison.

"Kids go retarded"? From clothing? I can't remember ever hearing this. I can't even remember EVER hearing about kids getting sick because of their clothing!

Here's 4 searches I did on Google that came up empty.

www.google.com...
www.google.com...
www.google.com...
www.google.com...

I couldn't find anything that said that children were actually getting sick because of their clothing!

Is there ANY proof out their that any child had become sick because of their clothing? (besides allergies)

I just haven't seen any proof yet!

The concern here isn't clothing per se. It has to do with the materials and chemicals employed in the production of ANY saleable item. Clothing merely being the latest offender. There is tons of proof out there that the health of the unsuspecting consumer is threatened in a very real manner (scientific papers). Just because you couldn't come up with some plausible
reasoning after googling the subject four times and then proceeded to form an opinion is in fact proof enough that the general public needs to be protected from the results of its own ignorance.
I would encourage you to peruse Kevin Tudeau's very common sense (and therefore unprofitable for big business) research and philosophy on health matters. He's the author of several books and runs the following website www.naturalcures.com
www.naturalcures.com

reply to post by greeneyedleo


Your clothing items my not have been made in China, but the materials used to make it may have been. Just banning items Made in China leaves too many loopholes.

reply to post by mrsdudara


This is true as well. Many times certain procedures to fabric are done in different countries. The cloth could have been created in China and the other countries just make shirts out of it. It is not a Wal-Mart thing as even name brand clothing is essentially about the same or in some instances worse. Hint Hint many of the fabric used by name brand manufacturers go for 1-3.00 per yard while some Wal Mart Fabric went for 4-5.

The Donna Karan brand and Tommy Hilfiger during the 90's was bottom of the barrel fabric just a point up from being scrap/waste and bought the cheapest dyes and processes. You essentially bought a name brand, not necessarily high quality.

During those days I did work for a company that did T-Shirts and T-shirt fabric processes. Wal-Mart surprisingly had such high quality standards that we lost them as a customer because the machinery could not physically produce what they required even with two machines receiving a 1.5 million upgrade each to get closer to their specs.

The location label sewn in only tells where the shirt was stitched together not where the fabric, dye materials etc. came from.

A+ to you for realizing that.




[edit on 7/1/2009 by toochaos4u]

Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
People will have to get creative. Perhaps childrens clothing exchanges could be arranged where credits are issued rather than cash exchanged.

Or perhaps large number of mothers need to converge on their politicians offices with armloads of childrens clothing and stage something akin to a "Bosten tea party."

I clothe my grandchildren in used clothing,

Now I guess I will have to start an underground movement.

Just in case someone hasn't figured it out yet I will post once again.

This is the BIGGEST CONSPIRACY STORY ever on ATS. I have not the time nor the will to write all I know, except to say this crashing economy and all the residual craziness is a designed collapse and power grab by the secret cabal that WILL eventually rule the world.

This is just another piece of the puzzle which fits in quite nicely.

By the way, Mr. Marrs or whoever, your next book should be about the designed power grab of the lives of everyone on planet earth.

Think about it, the governments of most major nations are "bailing" out banks, manufacturers, etc, passing laws to restrict free trade, getting control of the necessary infrastructure like banking, tranportation, money, etc.

They will eventually cause everyone to play by their rules, and if you don't like it you can have three squares and a nice cold slab of steel to sleep on until they do away with you.

Again, just more proof of a move towards a one world government, and the biggest conspiracy ever on ATS!

I stopped at the end of the first page... Sick of your reactions, US dudes...

Ah the Business God y'all praise... Speak of conspiracy theorists...

Google "SATURNISM", dudes.

Then wish it for your own child.

Cheers.


*Frenchman*



- Go on Mods : make your USA WORK -

anyone here got sick because of something they wore?

But seriously, actions like this have got to be the list of most retarded things to do during an economic depression.

Originally posted by muzzleflash

And look at the kids in Africa, Proof you can exist naked lol.



[edit on 7-1-2009 by muzzleflash]

Sure, if the average winter temperature is 75 degrees Fahrenheit.

Originally posted by doomsauce

Originally posted by muzzleflash

And look at the kids in Africa, Proof you can exist naked lol.



[edit on 7-1-2009 by muzzleflash]

Sure, if the average winter temperature is 75 degrees Fahrenheit.

Bear Grylls sleeps in a deer carcass in the winter so don't sweat it!

Originally posted by die_another_day
anyone here got sick because of something they wore?

But seriously, actions like this have got to be the list of most retarded things to do during an economic depression.

After being ingested, lead enters the bloodstream and is absorbed and stored in many tissues and organs in the body, including the liver, kidneys, brain, teeth and bones. High levels can cause serious health problems in your children and can affect almost every organ system of the body, causing many different symptoms.

Smaller amounts can lead to learning disabilities like not even knowing that lead is so bad for you that they took it out of GAS and PAINT.

Ok. To further the conspiracy

If in fact, you are still able to donate and receive used clothing....WHY is that allowed, but not the selling of it??

So all those super poor people who can not even shop at thrift stores are not nearly as important as the middle class people who can shop at thrift stores?

Why one and not the other?

And if I bought my daughter's clothing at the Gap, Old Navy or Gymboree and its less then a year old....why can I not sell them to a 2nd hand store? Shouldnt those retailers already have tested all their clothing?

[edit on 1/7/2009 by greeneyedleo]

Originally posted by mrsdudara
reply to post by greeneyedleo

 

Your clothing items my not have been made in China, but the materials used to make it may have been. Just banning items Made in China leaves too many loopholes.

It is not only China. Any country can use breezy easy production methods. In the past we added lead into our gasoline to help lubricate our carburetors and prevent engine run on. The fumes were lethal and like lead based paint we stopped messing with it. Even today many houses are found to contain lead paint and it needs to be abated. This is why Washington warned us about foreign entanglments.

As anyone found this law yet?
Im searching no luck.

I found some other articles on it:

www.columbusdispatch.com...

Selling uncertified items could be punishable by imprisonment and a fine of as much as $100,000 per violation, Meyer said.

She said she doesn't believe Congress had resale stores in mind when it passed the Consumer Product Safety Improvement Act of 2008 in response to a rash of reports about tainted toys, most of which are made overseas.

"We're not against product safety," Meyer said. "We do not want to sell or do anything to harm children. But we're talking about products that were safe to be sold on Feb. 9. We are not talking about recalled products."

A spokesman for the Consumer Product Safety Commission did not return a call yesterday.

Meyer said she hopes that the commission clarifies the law before the February deadline. If not, there could be legal questions about items sold at garage sales, on eBay and Craigslist.

Here it is:

The Consumer Product Safety Improvement act

Here is a time table too.

CPSIA time table



I didnt realize it had not been posted yet.



As for clothes being donated, I would say that is a good way to start to filter them out. Places like shelters can not provide cribs for children to sleep in unless they are certified though. I assume the same goes for toys in that situation. Not sure about the clothes though.

Edit to add time table.

[edit on 7-1-2009 by mrsdudara]