Whats going on at yellowstone?

reply to post by PuterMan


I agree that that one shows some sort of spiked intereference, but THIS one doesn't......nor do some others......

Will be curious to see what you find out! Thanks for looking.

reply to post by westcoast


I am afraid that as I posted on the other thread Vase is:

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Can't get any details until it comes back on line again.

Well, some of you guys her should be able to check if there have been any harmonic tremor in YS, since harmonic tremors have distinct spectral lines. I have not had time to check any.

why did the mod relay discussion to this thread when it doesn't relate to Harmonic Tremors in the title? This thread is over 600 pages long and no one in their right mind has the time to absorb that. Why not continue the newer thread that actually dictates Harmonic Tremors..that is in fact the only concern here.

being or late correspondence, how is this not on the Top Topics list? It's a rare thread full of ongoing and mind-bending information that exceeds 600 pages? I'm quite baffled with ATS to say the least.

reply to post by LipanConjuring86


Umm,, aren't you trying to figure out What's going on at Yellowstone? HT or not? hmmm - This Thread is dedicated to whatever is going on whenever it occurs.

It's still over 600 pages long and much of it is irrelevant from what I've read; Harmonic Tremors and the nature of Yellowstone are two very different variables.

reply to post by Anmarie96


If you don't understand the implications and nature of Yellowstone then you should go research it; HT's are not to be taken lightly and suggest a totally different impending behavior.

Originally posted by LipanConjuring86
It's still over 600 pages long and much of it is irrelevant from what I've read; Harmonic Tremors and the nature of Yellowstone are two very different variables.

Did you not just say that

Originally posted by LipanConjuring86
This thread is over 600 pages long and no one in their right mind has the time to absorb that.

Then how can you say that "much of it is irrelevant" if "no one in their right mind has the time to absorb that"? Have you been reading the whole thread?

You say that "Harmonic Tremors and the nature of Yellowstone are two very different variables. " What in the world do you mean with that statement?

And when it comes to Harmonic Tremor. Have you ever analyzed the source and propagation characteristics of seismicity at Old Faithful geyser like some of us here might have done? Because if you did, then you would know that its an ideal natural laboratory for studying harmonic tremor associated with near-surface sources.

And if you did, then you would find out that sharp pressure pulses inside the water column trigger distinct seismic events that give rise to a harmonic ground response whose frequency varies spatially but not temporally, and that a superposition of these seismic events creates the appearance of continuous harmonic tremor. This can fool many people, but they are not the Harmonic Tremors typically associated with the underground movement of magma.

Don't be to hasty here.
You do not know if there are any Geologist or Seismologist posting in this thread.

Michio Kaku tweeted that he will be on CNN Thursday morning to discuss the dangers of super-volcanoes.

I'm not sure what's supposed to be harmonic tremors, there. Looks like they did change some of the settings on the webicorders, they look a bit more like the ones for the cascade region now, those relatively even squiggles being normal flat background.

There's nothing of note until that little quake to the West of the park and the 3.x in Southern Idaho earlier this hour.

reply to post by LipanConjuring86


This thread has some of the brightest minds on ATS (past & present). 600 pages may seem like a lot but it has a wealth of information that you won't find anywhere else on ATS. A great deal of research and time has gone into so many posts, that this thread deserves respect.

Our motto is to "Deny Ignorance," and to do that we must dig deeper and educate ourselves. As far as I'm concerned, this is the OFFICIAL Yellowstone thread, and any inquiries into activity, should be addressed here. I don't understand why the other threads are even getting flagged with their wild speculations and half-baked theories. Are they really too lazy to read this thread and would rather feed on the ignorance of others to make themselves feel more self-important?

Really, read the thread and here is a bit on harmonic tremors and the different types of signatures from the
USGS LINK

And when Puterman is able to analyze the spectrum and report back his findings, perhaps you'll respect the thread a little more and the work that goes into it.

reply to post by IWant2Believe323


Very well said. Also a great explanation by Roald.

After spending some time going through all the thumbnails (back several days) I think quakewatcher is probably correct. It looks like the microvolts were turned WAY up on most of them (maybe to avoid wind noise), so the lines appear different now.

The reason why I think people are misreading this for HT, is because if you look around at the samples,they show the HT at 10 sec intravels, while the seismos are at 1 minute intravels...this makes them appear the same, when in reality REAL harmonic tremors are much more 'spikey' than you would think.

Did that make sense??

reply to post by westcoast
would you post a link for this, for give me if i do not know where this is from but it does look like it is worth the time to study, thanks in advance B. ps this is in regards too the GEE ,H17 and
LKWY.

reply to post by bekod


Here is a link to the GEE website. You can download the program from there. Its a big one!! You'll also need to take the time to read up on it before you try it out!

Good luck!

reply to post by westcoast


Still nothing doing as regards Vase. All I get is off-line. It is not HT, I am certain of that since the trace on the BUD versions does not exhibit this pattern. Don't forget that there are many variables here. Not all of this information comes from the same place and each system has a different program to recreate the traces on screen. They us different variables for the gain on the screen which is why the traces may not be exactly the same.

In some respects this is why I find listening to the waveform beats looking at it - but getting it into Audacity also means I can produce the spectrum and can zoom in on minute details.

This is the plot on IRIS BUD

and this is the plot


That looks like a windy plot to me but I will let you all know as soon as i can get some data.

On another site that I frequent, they picked up on these so-called harmonic tremors...but they are saying they were picked up on various other seismographs around the U.S...now they are convinced it is an earth core event...is that possible? It all seems so terrifying to me. Here are the links to other seismogram.
USA, Arkansas, Hobbs [link to www.iris.edu]
Dalat, Central Vietnam [link to www.iris.edu]
Son La, Vietnam [link to www.iris.edu]
Sittwe, Myanmar [link to www.iris.edu]
Kowen Forrest, Australian Capital Territory [link to www.iris.edu]
Niue Island, Niue [link to www.iris.edu]
Membach, Belgium [link to www.iris.edu]
Guantanamo Bay, Cuba [link to www.iris.edu]
Kasperske Hory, Czech Republic [link to www.iris.edu]
Tasiilaq, Greenland [link to www.iris.edu]
EDINBURGH, SCOTLAND [link to www.iris.edu]
Po Sahn, Hong Kong [link to www.iris.edu]

I'm not expert on the squiggly lines. But I've been watching Yellowstone's webicorders for the last two years. I notice nothing out of the ordinary. The only odd quakes in the world are the ones in Arkansas.

arkansasmatters.com...

www.youtube.com...

If you don't understand the implications and nature of Yellowstone then you should go research it; HT's are not to be taken lightly and suggest a totally different impending behavior.If you don't understand the implications and nature of Yellowstone then you should go research it; HT's are not to be taken lightly and suggest a totally different impending behavior.

reply to post by LipanConjuring86


I am afraid you have me confused with someone else or did you not do your research?. I am fully aware of all the implications of HT's and have researched and studied Yellowstone some 15 years and am aware of just about her every move. I find it very offensive that you would come on here and toot you own horn and degrade me and this thread just to make a post. You remind me of someone. Anyway, I want no problems, we are here to learn and follow Yellowstone.

ROBIN - The researching I according to the above don't do - is on the previous page. I found both full reports that have just been published along with another paper. I posted it just prior to to this cry of HT.

Here
Here
and Here

It also appears they have adjusted the instruments again.

reply to post by Anmarie96


In your opinion do you think what we are seeing yesterday and today at Yellowstone true HT's? Is there any cause for concern (above normal cause that is)?