Whats going on at yellowstone?

Originally posted by Hx3_1963


could that ~M7.4 still affect recorders all over the world this long?

[edit on 1/15/2009 by Hx3_1963]

Many still aren't settled back in. I'm watching 5 traces in Cal, and Ak.
I missed the P and S waves.

reply to post by geogeek


Well dont be upset; I'm sure there will be LOTS of data to sift through in the next few days..

reply to post by quakewatcher


As said before. I rest my case!
France does not have earthquakes, normally, do they?!
Neither does Sweden
Neither does Switzerland
Neither does Poland
Neither do the Shetland Islands!
Niether does Spain
Neither does Yellowstone at that intensity according to the USGS geologists that describe it merely as unusual and needs more investigation.
And I am still trying to keep up with the new occurrences in unusual places.
I rest my case?

LKWY is interesting looking right now (on GEE) looks like some more rumbling, maybe from the 4.X'er?

bouncing bouncing bouncing.

As long as www.nps.gov... is not "active" everything will be ok for us all

reply to post by robystar


where U have mountain , U should always expect some quakes , sorry no case ...

reply to post by quakewatcher


I'd go with that ...their strong enough and happening so close together that when one dies another washes over it...hhhmmm

reply to post by robystar


And a 4.0 south of Paris, France at 1801 UTC. That for sure is a real earthquake prone region!
And what happened at Yellowstone just now????

I keep on restin' my case!

Originally posted by quakewatcher
reply to post by questioningall

...mean to be a jerk, but can we try to keep a distinction between data like we get from seismographs and lake level readings, actual photos and web cam feeds, and images like this ... .

Looks like a standard sat photo, has a time and date stamp. The data you're working from could be inaccurate at best and tampered with at worst, so the answer to your question would be, "No."

See the little word "ignore" down below members' names?



[edit on 15-1-2009 by Spell2Speak]

reply to post by quakewatcher



the clouds are all part of what is going on also.

I have inserted the sats, showing the cloud separations - which may show the gases being released from the earth and causing those separations.

I feel it is part of what is happening. So I am sorry you are getting grumpy about them, I would say then just bypass the post with them.

Since this is only the 2nd time I have put one in, besides just like the other information that is provided throughout, this may be one more piece of a puzzle of what is happening.

I had provided "earthquake clouds" pics in many pages back, these sats are also a reference point to them.

So, if I think a sat pic, shows "earthquake" or gas releasing type clouds I will still insert them.

Remember we all provide different things to this thread and different information, so this is part of various information I provide and will continue to provide.

Also I do not see anywhere, where it says "The thread is to be only about seismic monitors of Yellowstone".


[edit on 15-1-2009 by questioningall]

Originally posted by robystar
reply to post by quakewatcher

 

As said before. I rest my case!
France does not have earthquakes, normally, do they?!

explain the Pyrenees Mts ,Alps, & the volcanic chain:
en.wikipedia.org...

Neither does Sweden

Sweden has glacial rebound & mountains to the west, admittedly not very active currently , but they got there somehow ...

Neither does Switzerland

bad one here; Switzerland has the Italian peninsula crashing into it from plate tectonic theory, Causing the ongoing development of the Alps ..

Neither does Poland
has the Bohemian/ Slovakian mountains to the south, plus some glacial rebound (i believe)

Neither do the Shetland Islands!

is it close to any oil exploration & drilling & development , reservoir exploitation is famous for generating small quakes ???

Niether does Spain

Spain has the North African plate pushing on it (plate tectonics) , causing Spain to push on France, think Pyrenees mountains, & some small scale volcanism in Pyrnnees, also remember the catastrophic Lisbon earthquake of 1753(?)

Neither does Yellowstone at that intensity according to the USGS geologists that describe it merely as unusual and needs more investigation.

.. pretty weak argument here, when it has only been intensively monitored for 50 years , and we have had other swarms not that dissimilar to the current one ....

And I am still trying to keep up with the new occurrences in unusual places.

Nothing much here, except maybe for the Shetlands ,thats a strange one, granted ...

I rest my case?

[edit on 15/1/09 by geogeek]

Originally posted by Spell2Speak


Looks like a standard sat photo, has a time and date stamp. The data you're working from could be inaccurate at best and tampered with at worst, so the answer to your question would be, "No."


[edit on 15-1-2009 by Spell2Speak]

Here, don't believe me then. Direct from the Weather Channel "How to Read a Satellite Map:"

All of our satellite images offer time-lapsed loops. These loops are created by sequentially presenting satellite images of the same area over a period of a few hours. This presentation of satellite images allows a user to see the general trend of cloud movement over the past few hours. This can be especially helpful in understanding the movement of large storm systems. Some of our satellite images are color enhanced. Located at the top of the map, a key shows how the color of cloud tops relates to how cold they are. Occasionally, the highest, coldest cloud tops produce the heaviest precipitation.

www.weather.com...
(click on "how to read this map")

In other words, you might just be seeing time lapsed movement. Or you might be seeing color enhancement. Or really, any effect they add to the image. As I said (and as they say) these maps are intended to show a general trend of cloud movement and storm systems. That's it!

reply to post by questioningall

I've been offline for a few days and may have missed it.

Can you explain to me what "earthquake clouds" are and how earthquakes could vent a MASSIVE enough quantity of gas to disrupt cloud patterns.?

EDIT: I appreciate your efforts to add a new perspective for our consideration. I've just never heard anything like this and I'm trying to determine how much credibility I should give it. My uninformed first impression is that cloud patterns are very unlikely to have any relation to earthquakes.


[edit on 15-1-2009 by BOTOH]

reply to post by BOTOH


I believe it is a bit more complicated than massive gas clouds. It also has to do with for example the earthquakes magnetic interfearences there can create sudden weather shifts.

reply to post by geogeek


Perhaps if you zoom in to the region you will uinderstand what I mean.
Sure they all have once in a while a minor earthquake (say less than 2.0) and that is indeed due to oil and gas extraction or a nearby mountain chain. But there are no major faults, no volcanic areas, no nothing.
Paris is 600 miles north of the Pyrenees.
The Spanish peninsula sometimes experiences some minor quakes in the south (where the African plate is indeed pushing against the European one), not hardly ever in the north (the map with the quakes posted by our Spanish friend spans 40 years and no major quakes can be seen).
Have you ever heard of quakes in Switzerland, or Poland or Sweden or the Shetlands? Well, I hadn't.
And as this is a Yellowstone thread, what indeed happened less than half an hour ago over there?

Originally posted by Wrathier
reply to post by BOTOH

 

I believe it is a bit more complicated than massive gas clouds. It also has to do with for example the earthquakes magnetic interfearences there can create sudden weather shifts.

Ahhh, I guess that could be plausible. Has anyone published any studies supporting this correlation? I still have a hard time imagining how anyone could reliable recognize or interpret such patterns in a system as dynamic as cloud formation.

Originally posted by BOTOH
reply to post by questioningall

 

Can you explain to me what "earthquake clouds" are and how earthquakes could vent a MASSIVE enough quantity of gas to disrupt cloud patterns.?
[edit on 15-1-2009 by BOTOH]

Snarky Link

It is a theory which is gaining popularity after the China earthquake last summer. If you check YouTube (and I am sure there was a thread on ATS also) you will find video of circumhorizontal arcs appearing in the sky before the big China earthquake. The theory is that the gasses that are emitted from the ground will cause the anomaly as the sun shines through the gasses in the atmosphere.

There may be more to the theory, but that is all I've gotten out of it.

reply to post by nydsdan

Love that "snarky link". Sorry for being so lazy.

reply to post by Wrathier


would the average(?) person on the ground (or especially airplane pilots) not noticed something wrong with their compasses, large amounts of vapour being emitted,unexplained water/etc on the ground, etc underneath these features ?? in days gone by ?? just a thought !

[edit on 15/1/09 by geogeek]

Originally posted by BOTOH
reply to post by questioningall

 

I've been offline for a few days and may have missed it.

Can you explain to me what "earthquake clouds" are and how earthquakes could vent a MASSIVE enough quantity of gas to disrupt cloud patterns.?

EDIT: I appreciate your efforts to add a new perspective for our consideration. I've just never heard anything like this and I'm trying to determine how much credibility I should give it. My uninformed first impression is that cloud patterns are very unlikely to have any relation to earthquakes.


[edit on 15-1-2009 by BOTOH]

I will find my earlier post and repost it - it has many links of cloud formations and pictures of clouds that happen 30 days or sooner before earthquakes.

Scientist have been looking at the angle of earthquake clouds and some make predictions based on clouds even 49 days out.