Channel 4 to show Ahmadinejad message

Channel 4 to show Ahmadinejad message

uk.reuters.com

LONDON (Reuters) - The world's troubles are rooted in a rejection of God and if Jesus Christ lived today he would stand up against bullying powers, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will tell Britons on Christmas Day.

The message will be broadcast on Channel 4 Thursday evening as an alternative to the traditional Christmas television and radio address from Queen Elizabeth.

"The crises in society, the family, morality, politics, security and the economy ... have come about because the prophets have been forgotten, the Almighty has been forgotten and some leaders are estranged from God," Ahmadinejad said, according to a translation of his message.

"If Christ were on earth today, undoubtedly he would stand with the people in opposition to bullying, ill-tempered and expansionist powers."

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Why, oh why, oh why is Channel 4 - one of the main 4 UK terrestrial TV channels - putting this man on TV on Christmas Day as an 'aleternative to the queens speech?

Let's think about some of the things he has said, shall we?

“Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury,”

“We are very suspicious about the role of British forces in perpetrating such terrorist acts,”

“As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map,”

"They have created a myth in the name of the Holocaust and consider it above God, religion and the prophets,"

As a nation do we want this man addressing us?

I for one, do not and cannot understand why Channel 4 think it is a good idea to do this.

What is the point?

I just don't get it.

Is this some attempt by someone with enough money to bribe Channel 4 to try and show him in a 'good light' or something?

It's all very strange and in my view wrong.

Am I alone in this viewpoint?

Peace,

MGGG

edited for grammatical randomness.

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[edit on 24-12-2008 by machinegun_go_go]

I think its genuis
From a marketing standpoint , And from a ratings standpoint
Well i'd rather watch him than that wrinkly old bag.

Do you not think that there's something seriously wrong with the idea though?

Not a one liner.

Well if in the US it was between him and the president I would watch him.

Reason being we all already know what the president is going to say but him? It's a total marketing ploy like the other poster said.

It will be disastrous for Channel Four - I doubt the relatives of those died in Iraq, by Iranian weaponry, will be pleased by this decision.

I'm a proud republican, but I'd rather listen to the Queen than some holocaust denier Channel Four should be fully privatise and no longer receive public money.

Yes I thought it was a clever piece of marketing!! Anyway if you dont agree with it then dont watch it.

I probably wont watch it because il be spending time with my little girl, but lots of other people will want to watch it. Probably just to moan about him being on tv but the ratings will be big anyway.

Classic C4 tactic.

Iran's Ahmadinejad to give alternative Christmas message

Jewish groups were up in arms today when it was revealed that Channel 4's "alternative" Christmas Day broadcast is to be delivered by President Ahmadinejad of Iran.

"Long Live The Channel Four!"

www.timesonline.co.uk...

I see the point of those saying that it is clever marketing on the part of Channel 4, but have to agree with infinite insomuch as this just HAS to backfire on them.

People may watch him out of curiousity but I think that there will be many many complaints to OfCOM that Channel 4 has allowed him to spout political propaganda on Christmas Day.

I will certainly not be watching as it is my intention to be passed out in an armchair by that point to make the day as short and painless as possible.

It's not just Jewish groups who should be up in arms - it's anyone in the UK with any morals (and mine are very, very loose) at all.

Channel 4 - you have just lost a viewer. Permanently.

Peace,

MGGG

Originally posted by Runningtobabylon
I think its genuis
From a marketing standpoint , And from a ratings standpoint
Well i'd rather watch him than that wrinkly old bag.

Took the words right out of my mouth!

“Anybody who recognizes Israel will burn in the fire of the Islamic nation's fury,”
“As the Imam said, Israel must be wiped off the map,”

And this man talks about God? What true god talks about killing? Only a corrupted religions' God talks of killing another being. Most religions are corrupt as far as I can see. His religion is no different.

That is so nice about a (seemingly) free society, it can be broadcasted and i think it's brave of channel 4 to do it. And i think Iran is the victim of Western propaganda in regards of a lot of accusations being thrown around here. That wiping israel of the map has been debunked numerous times, the holocaust thing was a counter-action because of the cartoon-riots originating in Sweden or something, the face of Muhammed being depicted with a bomb on his head and there was a piece of news about Weapons from Iran but heh, it was written in English on the crates, that does make it suspicous so it has never been PROVEN that Iran is sponsoring terrorism in Iraq.

So, my hat is off to Channel 4. If only to let a different sound come through into the West.

Heck, Iran even has the second largest Jewish community in the middle East if i remember correctly, they even have representation in goverment.

It's not that black and white.

Bush said he invaded Iraq because "God told him to"

Blair professes to want to "unite the faiths"

Channel 4 recently showed a christmas message by "The Simpsons" in which Lisa called for Cornish independance.

I see nothing here that is not consistent with C4 being the broadcaster it was always supposed to be.

C4 is for alternative viewpoints that are outside the mainstream, it is for programming that is outside the mainstream - in much the same way that ATS is.

So what's the problem?

Don't like it?

Don't watch.

I'll be tuning in - I'm sure he'll make a lot more sense than the "traditional" message, which is little more than government propaganda.

BTW, OP - might want to check those quotes.
What he REALLY said, and what the MSM SAYS he said are 2 different things.

[edit on 24/12/2008 by budski]

I think its called democracy and as for the wanting Israel wiped off the map that has been so debunked as lies. The quote was the Zionist regime being wiped out which is quite a different matter. Well done channel 4 leting us see the other side of the coin.

Budski -

I'd be grateful if you could point me towards where i've been brainwashed by MSM - i actually didn't get the qoutes from MSM, but i'm always keen to learn the truth bro!

I'm willing to accept i'm wrong but I jsut can't see what good this broadcast will do.

If i am being being stuck in the wrong mindset here and the consensus is I should watch it - i will.

maybe the MSM has got to me without me realising it!

Come one guys,

convince me I should watch it then?

I'm not one of these posters who is narrow minded enough to only think what I initially think - I'm open to alternate views and ideas.

Thanks for the input - much appreciated.

Peace,

MGGG

edit to add - apologies - my spelling is shot - it's christmas eve.

[edit on 24-12-2008 by machinegun_go_go]

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Don't take this too seriously. It will be like that Saddam footage of ten years ago. You will fear the words of the orator, you will also giggle a little at his audacity, you will know from the bottom of your heart that this may be his final speach.

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Not Budski but here is something nice to read. Not only the quote given but the whole thing could be nice
www.informationclearinghouse.info...

If Ahmadinejad is a genocidal maniac who just wants to kill Jews, then why are there 20,000 Jews in Iran with a member of parliament in Tehran? Couldn't he start at home if that was what he is really about?

It was apparently some Western wire service that mistranslated the phrase as 'wipe Israel off the map', which sounds rather more violent than calling for regime change. Since then, Iranian media working in English have themselves depended on that translation. One of the tricks of Right-Zionist propagandists is to substitute these English texts for Ahmadinejad's own Persian text. (Ethan Bronner at the New York Times tried to pull this, and more recently Michael Rubin at the American Enterprise Institute.) But good scholarship requires that you go to the original Persian text in search of the meaning of a phrase. Bronner and Rubin are guilty disregarding philological scholarship in favor of mere propagandizing.

About the cartoon riots. From CNN, but strangely it is only to be found in the cache of google
www.google.nl... click on 'in cache' it doesnt link to well.

(CNN) -- The leader of the world's largest Muslim organization has joined other world leaders in condemning violence over the publication of cartoon caricatures of the Prophet Mohammed.

Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, head of the Organization of the Islamic Conference, joined with U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan and Javier Solana, the European Union's foreign policy chief, in calling for calm, saying they were "deeply alarmed at the repercussions" the cartoons have caused.

"We call on the authorities of all countries to protect all diplomatic premises and foreign citizens against unlawful attack," read the statement released by the three world leaders.

The violence that has swept across parts of the world has come in response to the publication -- mainly in European newspapers -- of cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed, something forbidden under Muslim belief.

Across much of the Muslim world on Wednesday, political leaders urged calm over the dispute.

In Afghanistan, that nation's top Islamic organization called for an end to riots against the drawings, as police shot dead two protesters to stop hundreds of them from marching on a U.S. military base in southern Afghanistan Wednesday, The Associated Press reported. At least 10 people were wounded, the AP reported, quoting officials.

In Indonesia, both government and top Islamic leaders called on Muslims to prevent rallies from becoming violent, news services reported.

A prominent Iranian newspaper, Hamshahri, invited artists to enter a Holocaust cartoon competition, saying it wanted to see if freedom of expression -- the banner under which many Western publications reprinted the prophet drawings -- also applied to Holocaust images. (Full story)

[edit on 24-12-2008 by Harman]

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I thank you very much, sir

I'm gonna read all that in detail and draw some conclusions.

I appreciate you taking the time to post it.

Thank you.

Peace,

MGGG

The Iranian President actually said "The Israeli regime must vanish from the pages of time"

He's been misquoted on many other occasions as well.

Just do a search - an ATS search will suffice.

IMO the broadcast is worth watching because it gives an insight into how these people think about us - but not why.

Here would be a good place to start concerning WHY they think of us in the way they do.

It often seems like the little kid in the playground who stands up to the bully and belts him in the nose - the bully doesn't like it.

In the west we are guilty of economic imperialism - and yet we scream blue murder when someone has the gall to stand up to us, and refuses to be pushed around.

This goes back a long time - in fact from the time of British imperialism in the true sense of the word.

It can be a little uncomfortable reading the truth about how we in the west have attempted to control and exploit other nations because of the resources they possess - but IMO it is recommended reading for anyone who wants to have an open mind about the real state of affairs.

For instance, did you know that the US started Iran on the path towards nuclear technology?
Only for them to change their mind when their puppet government was thrown out.

There's an awful lot of info out there - you just have to search for it a little.

It changed my mind, when I found out - maybe it'll change yours if you dig deep enough.

Its a nice try, but someone should point out how irreligious the British are.

We aren't into God, now they've called off the Crusades, anyway, and so he should appeal to something else, like our namby-pamby wussyness and the desire for a complete nanny state.