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Originally posted by NoArmsJames
reply to post by LowLevelMason
I've starred you, I only wish I could flag you as well.
It's so nice to see some rational thought and common sense around here.
I, like you, do not believe in the NWO. People want to believe that they are part of something bigger; Everyone wants to be Neo.
Originally posted by ofhumandescent
reply to post by MagicaRose
I gave you a star for your signature.
Hope everyone reads it.
Originally posted by NoArmsJames
reply to post by LowLevelMason
I've starred you, I only wish I could flag you as well.
It's so nice to see some rational thought and common sense around here.
I, like you, do not believe in the NWO. People want to believe that they are part of something bigger; Everyone wants to be Neo.
Originally posted by LowLevelMason
I just wish people would consider the more common explanations before assuming its a global plot against them.
Originally posted by dunwichwitch
I am completely aware of the food takeover. It is obvious. It is even more obvious when we have Masonic goons coming online telling us nothing to see here folks. I'm sorry, my lord, but there is something to see here.
The food takeover already began a century or more ago when corporations started growing and distributing the food and those corporations not only have legal rights of people, but virtually uninhibited rights to do whatever the hell they want. They might pay a fine here or there, but that's like chump change to them. Food is the single most important resource known to man. If you don't eat, you starve and die. Think about it. Most people you know, do they grow and harvest their own food? No. I don't know anyone besides my next door neighbor who even has a garden where they seasonally grow a few veggies here and there. Nobody in urban and suburban areas (which is the majority of the population of the USA) controls their food. They depend on being employed in order to make little green pieces of paper, in order to be allowed to take a certain amount of food from Food Distribution Centers called grocery stores. It all feeds into one big system. Governments, religions, corporations, banks, economies... all one big system shrouded in many names. Once that system begins failing, expect it to lash back, and begin hording its power in order to survive.
This is the beginning of the end of this system. I'm sure our keepers, who aren't at all these rich elite you think are the enemy, will replace this system with another system... unless we begin to understand the games being played upon our species.
Originally posted by dunwichwitch
Is it at all reason-able to submit all of your means of authority over your and your families' and your children's childrens' childrens' well being to some giant faceless emotionless conscienceless entity?
Originally posted by dunwichwitch
You being a Mason should be a little more understanding of how the system works.... or are you being used as well? Think about it. My suggestion to you is that you are according to your name a low level mason, so you can still get out and rejoin the human race and think on a human level, instead of the level of a mere robot of a system within a system within a system in which it seems you don't understand at least slightly or else you would not have to join some brotherhood fraternity. That goes for most people on here, robots of the system... but I dunno sorry I had some bad experiences with masons and I get heated easily with masons who preach understanding and arcane uplifting life changing wisdom, yet do not understand themselves.
Originally posted by dunwichwitch
Reason is only as reasonable as you are. And, Mr. Mason... you cannot gain wisdom or power by submitting whatever control you do have, which may be zero at all, to a greater entity. There is, in reality, no greater entity than each and every one of us as individual beings, and we should take back control of the means to feed ourselves. Independence, my ass...as of this moment, anyway.
Originally posted by antar
Just to clarify, our experience with this event took place back in 2003, and so it is not some breaking news that I bring to the table, it is a slow simmering compilation of evidence to get a clear vision of the bigger picture.
Associated Wholesale Grocers Inc. was defrauded of more than $650,000 through a scheme involving fake invoices for products and goods it never received, according to a federal grand jury indictment.
Aponte Gomez, 45, and Arlene Francis, 45, both of Parkville; William Morrison, 42, of Escambia, Fla.; and Crystal Hall, 25, of Barling, Ark., are charged with defrauding the Kansas City, Kan., wholesale grocer and Elite Logistics Inc., U.S. Attorney for Kansas Eric Melgren said in a release Thursday.
A 31-count indictment from the federal grand jury in Kansas City, Kan., includes charges of wire fraud, money laundering, witness tampering and obstructing a criminal investigation. The crimes allegedly took place at various times in 2002, 2003 and 2004 in Johnson County, Melgren said.
Associated Wholesale Grocers is the nation's second-largest retailer-owned grocery wholesaler, serving more than 1,500 stores in 21 states, Melgren said.
Elite Logistics is a company that manages maintenance at AWG's operations in Kansas City, Kan., and Springfield, Mo. Gomez was employed by Elite as a maintenance department manager for AWG's warehouse in Kansas City, Kan.
According to the indictment, Morrison, Hall and Francis presented themselves as employees of an entity called Innovative Cleaning as part of a scheme with Gomez to cause AWG and Elite to receive fraudulent invoices for products that had not been delivered and services that had not been performed. Gomez signed paperwork falsely confirming receipt of products and services from Innovative Cleaning, leading to the defendants fraudulently receiving $652,549 from AWG and Elite, Melgren said.
Money paid to Innovative Cleaning flowed through accounts at Peoples Bank in Overland Park, Midwest United Credit Union in Kansas City, Midwest United Credit Union in Pleasant Valley, Mo., Midwest United Credit Union in Blue Springs, Mo., and Community America Credit Union in Lenexa, Melgren said.
Additionally, Gomez allegedly paid Hall to lie to FBI agents about Innovative Cleaning and to attempt to avoid contact with the agents.
In a separate forfeiture count, the government seeks $652,594.36 obtained from the crimes.
All four are charged with nine counts of wire fraud, Melgren said. In addition, Morrison and Francis each is charged with four counts of money laundering, and Gomez is charged with eight counts of money laundering, two counts of tampering with a witness and three counts of obstructing a criminal investigation.
Trucking firm lays off workers
Journal Record, The (Oklahoma City), Jun 16, 2000
SPRINGFIELD, Mo. (AP) -- Elite Logistics has laid off 19 Teamsters drivers and eliminated other positions -- two weeks after more than 1,400 union members returned to work at Associated Wholesale Grocers under Elite management. Officials at Elite say they're not finished. They plan to drop their job roster of drivers by about 70 employees at AWG warehouses in Springfield and Kansas City, Kan.
Mike Sprague, president of Elite's parent company, Tibbett & Britten, said the layoffs were unavoidable due to business AWG lost during its four-month labor dispute with the Teamsters. During the dispute at least one giant supermarket chain, Dillons food stores, left AWG and took an estimated 11 percent to 14 percent of the company's business, he said.
During the spring of 2000, there was a labor
dispute between AWG and its local union. AWG decided to outsource the warehouse management to Elite Logistics, Inc. (member company of Tibbett & Britten Group North America - one of the largest 3PL service supplier worldwide). The Kansas City Facility is nearly 1 million square feet and it has all temperature warehouses: Dry Grocery, Produce, Dairy, Meat, and Freezer. The site ships an average of 1.2 million cases per week and/or approximately 110 loads per day. For more information visit
www.associatedwholesalegrocers.com and www.tibbett-britten.com.
Originally posted by jimmyx
for the common home owner, buying, storing, rotating, all these rather huge amounts of food products, is just not going to happen. it would fill up half my garage, and cost thousands of dollars. so.. alot of people are going to be hurting.