Alien Technology: It's time to release more, The Economy can use it

Originally posted by NavalFC
This thread highlights one of the largest fallacies of the UFO cover argument. Indeed, if we did have alien tech this would be perfect timing.

Oh I agree, we should release more especially now that the global economy is in the toilet.

But we dont, and so none will be released.

I beg to differ
Mankind has advanced more in the past 50 years than hae has in all the previous centuries combined is this just by accident?

Nations dont work on developing technology just to hide the fact they have it, they do so to be able to use the technology to gain an advatange - a technology un used gives you know advantage in having it, and money spent on mastering it a waste.

Well thats my whole point now would be perfect with the world economy in the toilet. we are headed towardss massive riots, border disputes etc as resources become scarse and the whole time we could be seeing the release of extremely environmentally freindly technology to help in agricutlure, medicine, 0. energy etc.

Originally posted by Divinorumus
More technology is not always a good thing. It can be used against us, and it also can put a lot of people out of "real" work. Take the farm tractor for example. How many people did that technology put out of "real" work? What happens one day when AI is perfected and the perfect robot is achieved? I'll tell you what will happen: humans will have become old technology and obsolete and.... no longer required!

What do you mean when you say "real" work? Everyone wants to believe that their chosen profession IS real work and I certainly hope you aren't implying that scientists do not do real work. No one wants to lose their job or find their skills obsolete, to be sure, but work will always need doing. It's just the nature of that work that is destined to change. I for one would prefer NOT to perform the hard labor of a farm tractor but if that's what makes your life complete, then by all means, go right ahead! I won't try to stop you or talk you out of it.

Nothing humans have ever manufactured is perfect (and I'm certain that will always include AI). People mess up; it's inevitable (manufacturing defects). This is why every factory has people (other than the ones making the goods) assigned to quality control and STILL mistakes manage to slip through (leading to product recalls). I don't think you need to worry about evil robots taking over the world anytime soon. Even in a heavily mechanized world, people will still be needed for programming, maintenance, repair, etc.

If you want to return to a more old-fashioned lifestyle, that's your business. If you would rather not enjoy the benefits/headaches of technological advancement, then you're free to log out, unplug your modem, kick off the fuse box, light some candles and curl up with a good book. Not everyone has the desire to spend their free time that way but if you do, then great! It's just not for me. To each, his/her own!

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Can you name some of these alleged "alien technologies"? I'm aware that we owe much to the space program but I'm not aware of us using anything that came from an alien civilization.

Originally posted by X-tal_Phusion
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Can you name some of these alleged "alien technologies"? I'm aware that we owe much to the space program but I'm not aware of us using anything that came from an alien civilization.

Optic Fibres re Roswell crash for one, read Corso's book The Day After Roswell or watch the videos above.



[edit on 21-12-2008 by Bob Down Under]

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Wouldn't it have been easier to just say "no"? Here's an article on the invention of fiber optics: inventors.about.com... I asked for specific inventions and you named just one thing that was completely, 100% man-made. I'm not going to go out a buy a book without a darned good reason (i.e., the author is well-known in his/her field and has an established record of high-quality work in an area which interests me). This is what bothers me so much about people who claim to have these Earth-shattering theories; more often than not, they're peddling a book!

Originally posted by X-tal_Phusion
reply to post by Bob Down Under

 

Wouldn't it have been easier to just say "no"? Here's an article on the invention of fiber optics: inventors.about.com...

I asked for specific inventions and you named just one thing that was completely, 100% man-made. I'm not going to go out a buy a book without a darned good reason (i.e., the author is well-known in his/her field and has an established record of high-quality work in an area which interests me). This is what bothers me so much about people who claim to have these Earth-shattering theories; more often than not, they're peddling a book!

Not the type of Optic Fibres we use or should I say invented.

Also Night Vision material and I do not mean the night vision head sets used in the Military or aircraft night vision camera's.

Why dont you read up on reverse engineering of UFO's and if you think its all BS then dont go there.

[edit on 22-12-2008 by Bob Down Under]

Originally posted by X-tal_Phusion
reply to post by SLAYER69

 

Can you name some of these alleged "alien technologies"? I'm aware that we owe much to the space program but I'm not aware of us using anything that came from an alien civilization.

ahh that is the question.

You’re not going to find a straight line towards a specific example in other words your not going to pop off the back of your computer and look for a chip that says made in Alpha Centuri

And as a matter of fact you’ll find a supposed history of human invention with certain technology but if you look at what was being worked on from year to year say in the mid to late 50’s then saw what came out all of sudden in the mid to late 60’s and later in the 70’s there were huge advancement and not all were NASA and the Moon program related

Fiber optics but not the type we know.

Night vision optics in His book he mentioned all kinds of other things viewing micro circuitry which gave those in the electronic field the idea of miniaturizing components A strange thing did occurred though during the Reagan Presidency.

There was another explosion in Technology that seemed to come out of the wood work and although was unheard of in the public seemed to be off the shelf in military terms.
Stuff the public never dreamed existed here are two examples




There is no direct link because we only tried to reproduce what they found which lead us in new directions of experiments. also in order to maintain security they had to make it seem that this tech came from the private sector as to not let out the fact where it came from it's all in his book

Lots of failures

No we did not get velcro from Aliens



[edit on 22-12-2008 by SLAYER69]

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Well explained Slayer

I do not have the time to research/provide evidence to questions posted by other members, as my job takes most of and if not all of my spare time.

I no whats out there and so do you , and its time consuming trying to present evidence to lay men.

Thanks

[edit on 22-12-2008 by Bob Down Under]

Originally posted by X-tal_Phusion
reply to post by Bob Down Under

 

Wouldn't it have been easier to just say "no"? Here's an article on the invention of fiber optics: inventors.about.com...

I asked for specific inventions and you named just one thing that was completely, 100% man-made. I'm not going to go out a buy a book without a darned good reason (i.e., the author is well-known in his/her field and has an established record of high-quality work in an area which interests me). This is what bothers me so much about people who claim to have these Earth-shattering theories; more often than not, they're peddling a book!

Was I married to you once?? lol

I agree. And I think everyone should read Corso's book "The Day After Roswell". Roswell was not a Mogul balloon. And I hate these TV shows like "The Real Roswell" etc. that portray it as being a Mogul balloon that was really recovered.

Originally posted by X-tal_Phusion
Wouldn't it have been easier to just say "no"? Here's an article on the invention of fiber optics: inventors.about.com...

I asked for specific inventions and you named just one thing that was completely, 100% man-made. I'm not going to go out a buy a book without a darned good reason (i.e., the author is well-known in his/her field and has an established record of high-quality work in an area which interests me).

Your right!
Absolutely right.

I'll keep the link you posted and add some more from your own source, the reason I'll do this is to show you something odd.

Excellent observation but go back to your link and notice the timeline you'll see a major advancement in the 1950's also notice a huge gap in development between 1930 and 1954 Roswell happened in 1947.

Why would such a technology not have been used during WWII? During WWII every sort of Technology was looked at to exploit a military advantage but this over looked?

Notice the gap? 1930 then again in 1954?

Example Fiber optics

In 1930, German medical student, Heinrich Lamm was the first person to assemble a bundle of optical fibers to carry an image. Lamm's goal was to look inside inaccessible parts of the body. During his experiments, he reported transmitting the image of a light bulb. The image was of poor quality, however. His effort to file a patent was denied because of Hansell's British patent.

n 1954, Dutch scientist Abraham Van Heel and British scientist Harold. H. Hopkins separately wrote papers on imaging bundles. Hopkins reported on imaging bundles of unclad fibers while Van Heel reported on simple bundles of clad fibers. He covered a bare fiber with a transparent cladding of a lower refractive index. This protected the fiber reflection surface from outside distortion and greatly reduced interference between fibers. At the time, the greatest obstacle to a viable use of fiber optics was in achieving the lowest signal (light) loss.

Here you have a huge gap 1917 then all of sudden in 1954 advancement.

Example L.A.S.E.R.

The name LASER is an acronym for Light Amplification by the Stimulated Emission of Radiation. In 1917, Albert Einstein first theorized about the process which makes lasers possible called "Stimulated Emission."

Before the Laser there was the Maser

In 1954, Charles Townes and Arthur Schawlow invented the maser (microwave amplification by stimulated emission of radiation), using ammonia gas and microwave radiation - the maser was invented before the (optical) laser. The technology is very close but does not use a visible light.

On March 24, 1959, Charles Townes and Arthur Schawlow were granted a patent for the maser. The maser was used to amplify radio signals and as an ultrasensitive detector for space research.

In 1958, Charles Townes and Arthur Schawlow theorized and published papers about a visible laser, an invention that would use infrared and/or visible spectrum light, however, they did not proceed with any research at the time.

Ruby Laser
In 1960, Theodore Maiman invented the ruby laser considered to be the first successful optical or light laser.

Not much of a prehistory there just came out of nowhere in 1958

Example :Carbon Fiber

History of Carbon Fiber
In 1958, Dr. Roger Bacon created the first high-performance carbon fibers at the Union Carbide Parma Technical Center, located outside of Cleveland, Ohio.[4]The first fibers were manufactured by heating strands of rayon until they carbonized. This process proved to be inefficient, as the resulting fibers contained only about 20% carbon and had low strength and stiffness properties. In the early 1960s, a process was developed using polyacrylonitrile (PAN) as a raw material. This had produced a carbon fiber that contained about 55% carbon and had much better properties. The polyacrylonitrile (PAN) conversion process quickly became the primary method for producing carbon fibers.[2]

Lets look at the Inetgrated circuit, Father of the Microchip 1958

Example : Integrated Circuit

Jack Kilby, an engineer with a background in ceramic-based silk screen circuit boards and transistor-based hearing aids, started working for Texas Instruments in 1958. A year earlier, research engineer Robert Noyce had co-founded the Fairchild Semiconductor Corporation. From 1958 to 1959, both electrical engineers were working on an answer to the same dilemma: how to make more of less.

In designing a complex electronic machine like a computer it was always necessary to increase the number of components involved in order to make technical advances. The monolithic (formed from a single crystal) integrated circuit placed the previously separated transistors, resistors, capacitors and all the connecting wiring onto a single crystal (or 'chip') made of semiconductor material. Kilby used germanium and Noyce used silicon for the semiconductor material.

Another good example from the 1950s

Example : Night Vision

Where Did Thermal Imaging Devices Originate From?:
Thermal imaging devices were first developed for military purposes. According to Bullard Thermal Imaging, "In the late 1950s and 1960s, Texas Instruments, Hughes Aircraft, and Honeywell developed single element detectors that scanned scenes and produced line images. These basic detectors led to the development of modern thermal imaging."

Superconductor 1957

Example : Superconductor

Mysteries of Superconductors - BCS Theory
In 1957, scientists began to unlock the mysteries of superconductors. Three American physicists at the University of Illinois, John Bardeen, Leon Cooper, and Robert Schrieffer, developed a model that has since stood as a good example of why superconductors behave as they do and expressed the advanced ideas of the science of quantum mechanics. Their model suggested that electrons in a superconductor condense into a quantum ground state and travel together collectively and coherently.

It took a long time to backwards engineer the technology that was found back then. Corso never claimed they invented the technology we are speaking of, but that he was in charge of releasing it to industry that were already working in those fields, they seemed to be the best chance of developing it. In his book he explains this in detail.

He said he contacting people at these companies and only the need to know were let into the know.

His only requirement was that they used it and take the claims of the development, patents and to release it into the consumer markets!




I left out the obvious military examples that the US has developed and deployed I'm pretty sure either you or somebody you know have seen those demonstrations

In conclusion some things have taken longer than others to analize then develop we are starting to see the direction of this further release of technology here.

This by far one of my favorite it seems to have just popped out of nowhere with no real history and yet it is the direction we are headed

Example : Nanotechnology

Nanotechnology, which is sometimes shortened to "Nanotech", refers to a field whose theme is the control of matter on an atomic and molecular scale. Generally nanotechnology deals with structures of the size 100 nanometers or smaller, and involves developing materials or devices within that size.

I'll leave you with a few videos to watch and ponder what else we could be doing with this technology and how it should be helping us out of this global crunch!

NanoTech

Ultraconductor

[edit on 22-12-2008 by SLAYER69]

This shows us an example of some this Tech coming together in IBMs newest creation
Enjoy

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How the heck is that IBM video proof of alien technology? IBM and other companies have been developing better and better computers and processors over the years, technology which has a clear lineage and path of development: ie not alien tech that was left in their laps.

this is a common recurring theme here on ATS Humans are too stupid to do anything.
Ancient wonders such as the pyramids? Humans too stupid, must have been aliens.

Religions? NO way humans could have invented religion- without aliens

now advanced technology? no way humans could do it without aliens.
Frankly I find it insulting.

reply to post by NavalFC


Go back a few posts on this page and reread the history consider the possiblity

Slayer69,
Nice post. I was thinking something similar. I mean we have industrial experience/capability getting ready to go under and vanish...namely GM.
What if they were assigned to create antigrav vehicles. Boom economic problem solved, oil crisis solved. No we don't share it for 10 years.

BP

Here is a few good links that might be of interest.

www.think-aboutit.com...

www.ufos-aliens.co.uk...




[edit on 22-12-2008 by Bob Down Under]

Starred and flagged. During my interview with Stephen Bassett, I mentioned that the mere fact of not having disclosure, and if indeed, new technology, renewable sources of energy, cures, etc., are being kept secret from the population, I consider that to be a crime against humanity.

You can listen to the show here: *snipped advertising*
[edit on 12/22/2008 by manticore]

[edit on 1/10/2009 by Badge01]

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Thanks fuel for the fire.
I'm also digging deeper for specifics
I say we need to start looking outside the box and not take everything we know as the gospel truth.

Originally posted by manticore
Starred and flagged. During my interview with Stephen Bassett, I mentioned that the mere fact of not having disclosure, and if indeed, new technology, renewable sources of energy, cures, etc., are being kept secret from the population, I consider that to be a crime against humanity.

*snipped ad*

Exactly we need A new release, this time around something that will help us out of this situation not keep heaping more dept on the average Joe on the street.

They made their billions now its time to help!


[edit on 1/10/2009 by Badge01]

Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by Bob Down Under

 

Thanks fuel for the fire.
I'm also digging deeper for specifics
I say we need to start looking outside the box and not take everything we know as the gospel truth.

No Probs!

I will keep bumping your thread when possible, and add a bit more data as I believe this should grow and keep active as long as possible.