ALERT REQUEST any Members Live near Mt Baker USA?

I'm just a few miles away (okay probably 20 from the base as the crow fly's) not far from Baker Lake and didn't notice anything today.

The Ski Area Just opened today for the first time this season. That made the media today as well as the cold snap & snow of the entire state.

From what I understand Mt. Baker is similar to Mt. St Helens and we had a couple week notice for that eruption which at the time I lived 60 miles from St. Helens and watched the eruption from my yard.

So, we'll probably have a few hundred quakes a day for several days before Mt. Baker goes, but thanks for the warning. I'll keep my eyes and ears open for any thing unusual.




[edit on 15-12-2008 by verylowfrequency]

Originally posted by spitefulgod
I haven't seen webbot around here lately looks like his took his shamed ass and ran for the hills before he's lynched for calculating a load of BS. Anywho mount Baker.... mount Baker..... I predict no eruption happening at all through 2008 - 2009. Now I'll apologies if I'm wrong but we all know I'm right.

Obviously your kidding right? someone from Blackburn UK informing people from that region you know there will be no eruption, will make them all feel better I'm sure.

There is so much to take into consideration before even the best in their field could make that call, and all along we should have been talking to you, (yeah sarcasm) I will say though, people I know working for USGS, will not leave the public in the dark if they thought it was going to happen with any certainty.

Look for restricted access to the area, people with any kind of direct view will see Aircraft visually spotting near to the Mountain, as well as other nearby known geothermal hot spots, there must be people living in the area, if anyone knows of any, contact them, they would know if there was an increase in people skulking around.

A lot of lessons were learnt after ST Helens, it won't be like the movie dante's peak either, but there would be the equivalent of Pierce Brosnan around somewhere, even if it's just a stutter by the Mountain.

Anyone living near, I give you my word they will not leave anyone in danger, if something is starting then it could be years before an eruption, why panic and scare the living daylights out of everyone?

I'm sure there are other Geologists who will back me up, Geologists, Volcanologists, will not cover something like this up without an exeptional reason, also 2001 Flagstaff there was a melt on Humpfeys peaks in AZ, USGS already have an office right on the side of them, the reason is because of the activity, now we are almost 8 years on and the mountain is under constant observation, it's still there however.

So please don't worry too much, I can ask around, a good indicator will be if anyone has had their Christmas cancelled, if I find anything out I will let you know.

It is too early to panic, and worry is good for the soul sometimes, hurts nobody to be vigilant, and interested.

reply to post by azzllin


lol, take a look at all the other threads on here about Mt baker, I think the general consensuses based on the recent activity points to nothing being wrong whatsoever, just a bunch of fear mongers.

Originally posted by IAttackPeople
100% pure bullplop.

If there was anything unusual going on at Mt Baker it would be all over the local news.

What makes you think this is so?

If there was something going on, the geologists and vulcanologist would have a very hard time convincing any government (especially one that cares so little for its citizens) that they should act.

What would happen if this was reported on the news?
Mass panic, evacuation, relocation, massive damage to an economy already struggling. And all for a "potential problem".

I firmly believe that they would require irrefutable evidence before warning the public at all, and I believe such irrefutable evidence wouldn't be present until you see smoke and lava.

This doesn't mean that I think there is anything about to go pop.
I just don't think they would risk the inevitable damage caused by announcing this until they were absolutely certain that it was about to happen, or already was happening.

Thanks everyone who is nearby who has responded.

The Information is on this Thread:

Impending Earthquake/Volcanic Activity/California Region

And as anyone who reads through the thread can see I pulled all the Hydrological, Seismic, and USGS data for the region and could find nothing.

I have posted a lot of it on the thread, over the last week.

I was quite harsh in Debunking the poster, However due to his continued insistance and his strong statements that something is happening, he was told by a Volcanologist who is there, and that it could be observed happening, Now, a

Bald patch

The only way for us to see if this is so is by the responses posted so far, and further ATS collaboration.

So has anyone besides those already posted in, been able to get info from someone who flies the area and can see it from Above?

I am looking at the Satellite Photo's but I am very busy today only 5 mins on ATS...

Any further witness accounts?

And as stated please see the link posted for the whole story, Data and information.

Kind regards,

Elf

OK there is a local Guy who works with the USGS and monthly flies over Mt Baker and Takes Aerial Photos.

His website states:

These aerial photographs of Mt. Baker are part of periodic imaging done in cooperation
with Dr. Kevin M. Scott, distinguished scientist at USGS/Cascades Volcano Observatory, Vancouver, WA.
It takes about ten minutes to be at Baker's summit; this proximity allows me to photograph it regularly, perhaps once or twice monthly as conditions permit. Currently (December, 2006) the collection of Baker images contains about 10,000 photographs. The photography is now being conducted with a Canon 400D 10.1 MP digital SLR camera.

John Scurlott in association with Dr Kevin M. Scott - Aerial Photo's of Mt Baker Monthly

I cant find anything on there showing photos for November or December 2008! Can anyone see any recent Photos there, or live close and can ring him?

The Mt baker Volcano Observatory link is also displaying a no website found message at the moment:

Mt Baker Volcano Observatory

Kind Regards,

Elf

Originally posted by MischeviousElf
OK there is a local Guy who works with the USGS and monthly flies over Mt Baker and Takes Aerial Photos.

His website states:

These aerial photographs of Mt. Baker are part of periodic imaging done in cooperation
with Dr. Kevin M. Scott, distinguished scientist at USGS/Cascades Volcano Observatory, Vancouver, WA.
It takes about ten minutes to be at Baker's summit; this proximity allows me to photograph it regularly, perhaps once or twice monthly as conditions permit. Currently (December, 2006) the collection of Baker images contains about 10,000 photographs. The photography is now being conducted with a Canon 400D 10.1 MP digital SLR camera.

John Scurlott in association with Dr Kevin M. Scott - Aerial Photo's of Mt Baker Monthly

I cant find anything on there showing photos for November or December 2008! Can anyone see any recent Photos there, or live close and can ring him?

The Mt baker Volcano Observatory link is also displaying a no website found message at the moment:

Mt Baker Volcano Observatory

Kind Regards,

Elf

Well the site is not there that's for sure. Ran a couple programs and according to those it doesn't exist. So could be someone unplugged something they shouldn't have or hit a power button, or just plain turned off the server.

Originally posted by Darthorious
Well the site is not there that's for sure. Ran a couple programs and according to those it doesn't exist. So could be someone unplugged something they shouldn't have or hit a power button, or just plain turned off the server.

Thanks Darthorious,
Well that's interesting in itself, Maybe its a new server/service that has not started up yet from an old one.

Though being ATS it seems strange that the page that states the USGS guys who work there, and links to it from 2006 and it seems like the right sort of Web Address for such a server www.mtbakervo.com... seems correct,

Unplugged on Purpose?

Anyhow further info needed then.

Originally posted by DarrylGalasso
reply to post by MischeviousElf

 

Regardless of if it is active or an imminent eruption is present or not. I personally appreciate the fact that you would be so kind as to offer a warning or heads up call. You did not state it was factual and said it was third party info, so I consider what you have done as a global community service.

Darryl thank you,

This is what ATS is about, but we need to be grounded and honest as well, which I am trying to do. There is enough Fear and scaremongering in the world generally, but things do happen as well, so a balance is needed eh.
Kind words much appreciated.

Elf.

I remember a few years ago when I was living in Anchroage, Mt. Spurr (about 70 miles from Anchorage) started acting up. There was a huge melt hole at the crater site, seismic activity increased, etc.
Here is the link for photos on that:
www.avo.alaska.edu...

Geologists were all over the mountain and sending out warnings to the city of Anchorage. Nothing happened. In fact, if I remember correctly, shortly thereafter, Mt. Augustine erupted which is much farther south. You never know with these mountains if and precisely when anything is going to happen. I thought for sure Mt. Spurr was going to erupt because of all the activity, but I was wrong. Good post anyway, it will be interesting to see what comes out of this. Here is a great site for Volcano info, past and present in Alaska if anyone is interested:

www.avo.alaska.edu...

As someone who's stood on top of Mt. Baker, I know for a fact that there have been steam vents up there since the 80's, probably long before. I see Mt. Baker (yes you can see the top of the mountain) rather frequently (when cloud cover allows) and it's still the beautiful mountain it has been. There's no visible signs of melting up there (the top is clearly visible today).

I'm not worried about Mt. Baker. Our mountains (Baker, Rainier, Adams, St. Helens) have all been rather quiet. I was up at St. Helens the other day and they were allowing people to crest it, though probably not for much longer as we're getting into snow season in the Pacific Northwest.

Mt. Baker is fine. It looks beautiful, and there's no seismic activity to indicate otherwise.

I hope you all are doing well.

I myself dont live too far at all from Mt. Baker. The fact is that the Cascade mountains are some of the most seismically active in the world. There are ALWAYS small earthquakes and tremors in this region. They happen almost every minute and are well below any level of danger. My cousin at the USGS says there is nothing unusual going on anywhere in the Cascades.
The simple fact is however, that eventually we will have to deal with either a major eruption or any one of a number of seismic events that could spell disaster for this region.
Orting, Washington is in far more peril than almost any other area in this region because of the directionality of a lahar that would come rushing down the mountain. This small town would be completely destroyed if Mt. Rainier erupted.Or rather, when. Its happened at least once before, it will almost surely happen again.

i have nothing to add except that Nugent's Corner and Van Zandt are awesome names for towns; clearly the local zoning board has an appreciation for classic rock.

also, Nooksack isn't bad either.

Originally posted by asmall89

Also just because it isn't currently active or hasn't had any seismic activity for over 2 weeks doesn't mean anything. There was about a month between an earthquake and the one that triggered Mt. St. Helens Eruption.

[edit on 14-12-2008 by asmall89]

The eruption was preceded by a two-month series of earthquakes and steam-venting episodes, caused by an injection of magma at shallow depth below the mountain that created a huge bulge and a fracture system on Mount St. Helens' north slope. An earthquake at 8:32 a.m. on May 18, 1980 caused the entire weakened north face to slide away, suddenly exposing the partly molten, gas- and steam-rich rock in the volcano to lower pressure. The rock responded by exploding into a very hot mix of pulverized lava and older rock that sped toward Spirit Lake so fast that it quickly passed the avalanching north face.

en.wikipedia.org...

There was nearly non stop EQ's leading up to the May 18th eruption.

IF the EQ's were not a hint, then it was the phreatic eruptions (exploding groundwater-derived steam) one month prior.

reply to post by liquidsmoke206

That was F'n funny. LMAO

reply to post by whoshotJR


Yes that's the thread I link to in the Opening Post.

reply to post by Kay_S


Thanks but when I load the page I just get a blank one with the menu. I have full flash etc to... is it me or do you get a view? Can you post a Pic link if you do?

reply to post by clay2 baraka


I thought that too, but if Lava has been building for some time it may not be so, this year and 2002 were quite active across a range of depths for the volcano, see the graph below.

reply to post by deepred


Lucky you looks gorgeous!
Do you know anyone who has been there close to the mountain in the last couple of weeks, especially climbed it? are the springs looking normal or extrabusy?

reply to post by asmall89


Great link thanks missed that.
The data and server are not ordered properly yet, cant find anything for recent Thermal, or Melt activity... will keep looking later though.

reply to post by EricS


What side can you see then my friend? N/S/E/W?

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
I was actually just taking pictures of it this afternoon with my telephoto lens (so north side of mountain) from Canada (I was facing south), I didn't notice anything funny on my photos.

Thanks hey why not join and add some photo's?
Do you look at it often then and it seems ok?

reply to post by soma_pills


Any news on the Forums into this sort of thing then?

reply to post by liquidsmoke206

lol well well the Seahawks eh, Liquid do you know anyone who goes there or lives much closer?

reply to post by StargateSG7


Hey Im soo sorry to Wonderful Vancouver, and any Canadian's... Just I live the other side of the Pond so don't know the area that well.
Thanks for the info.

Would love the Photo's or link to one, so you see the North West side then?

reply to post by verylowfrequency


Soo close great for info, and sounds great, hope the snow isn't to bad...

So what face side can you see my friend?

reply to post by bpg131313


Great would love to have such a view, What side of the top can you see then?

Please let us know.

So We know that the North side has no melt , and if the other members and posters can get back with their respective views of Mt Baker hopefully we can debunk/ clear this up ASAP.

Would like to get a 360 degree veiw report on its activity from the above posters and see what the real deal is eh guys?

Well done way to go ATS.

reply to post by Cyprex


Good point its not always EQ's and the Poster claimed it was not proceeded by any large seismic activity, just that its hotter at the peak and one side is "Bald"

So anyone who is local and notices any strange or extreme Spring or such like activity, that is always a good sign of anything.

Ideally we need an Aerial view and I cant find one, So I have just emailed the Aerial Cameraman who works with the USGS as in my previous post.

Thanks Guys, please be specific on the Side of the mountain you can see.

Below is the last 10 yrs Seismic activity and depth at Mt Baker, maybe just maybe something building, and I think there has been one more quake since this was released.





Kind Regards,

Elf

I live in Bellingham, WA, and can see Mt. Baker from where I'm sitting right now. We haven't received any warnings from the local media. The ski area on Mt. Baker opened yesterday, after we got a ton of snow on Saturday night. Thanks for the warning, but everything seems to be normal here in Whatcom County.

Originally posted by MischeviousElf
Now as Mt baker holds more glacial and Snow deposits than the entire Cascade range of volcanoes combined on its own, if such a melt is occurring, and increases it is important for us to know.

I would like to correct this. Mt Ranier is the most heavily glaciered peak in the lower 48 states. Aside from that, thanks for the post. I haven't heard anything at all about Baker waking up. Someday it will certainly do so, but for now the giant sleeps.

As I promised yesterday I have links
to some photos of the Mount Baker region
taken at 12:12 pm and 12:13 pm Pacific time
on December 15, 2008

It's pretty hazy from my vantage point
which is a linear distance of 90 km or 56 miles
from the mountain.

Either click on the links below or
copy the address links to your
address bar of your web browser
in order to view these
1744 × 1308 pixel JPEG format photos:

www.henryaeckstein.me...

www.henryaeckstein.me...

www.henryaeckstein.me...

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and also, just for your daily enjoyment here is a
Beautiful sunset photo of Vancouver English Bay Harbour:

www.henryaeckstein.me...


Hope this helps

[edit on 15-12-2008 by StargateSG7]

[edit on 15-12-2008 by StargateSG7]

Edit My Bad misread,

Walks away blushing from burdman30ott6,

Sorry Just read my stupid quote, looked around as I was sure I saw it somewhere, the quote was that it has more ice and glaciers than the rest of the cascades combined - EXCEPT Mt Rainer... so it is the second most watery Mount in the Cascades, but still without Rainer has more than the rest put together. Rainer has the most by far, Then Baker both seem to have a lot more than the rest put together as described.

Is on the USGS site I linked under Mt Baker.

Soz and thank you for correcting me.
reply to post by nicholaswa


Thank you,

What side can you see then?

Kind Regards,

Elf
Elf Edit for link

[edit on 15-12-2008 by MischeviousElf]
EDit for correction in beginning of post.

[edit on 15-12-2008 by MischeviousElf]

reply to post by MischeviousElf


No problem. As I said before, it's definitely worth keeping an eye on regardless. I think most of us living in the Cascades are generally keeping an eye on USGS reports and the news here is pretty quick to report any seismic activity on any of the volcanoes we have.

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