chem/contrails in brisbane australia

Originally posted by neformore

Originally posted by BlackMumba
I would say they are chemtrails, if it was a normal commercial airline the contrail (water vapor) would dissapear in seconds

Sorry, but thats simply not true.

Please, do some research into the subject before making such blanket statements.

Persistent contrails are an observed scientific fact and have been being observed since as early as WW2.

There are numerous threads on ATS where persistent contrails are discussed.

I'm intrigued as to how/why you decided to draw such a conclusion without knowing about persistent contrails.

As for the videos fair bit of uneducated scaremongering going on there - the air is full of particulates, ranging from pollens to dust, smoke and soot, insects and air pollution from cars, other vehicles and industrial processes. Its exactly the same as if, on a sunny day, you sit and look at a beam of light coming in through a window, and see dust particles floating in the air.

BTW, the helicopter you show is owned by a charter company called PDG Helicopters, who offer, amongst other things, scenic helicopter tours and charter services to surveying companies.

I do get the impression from your answer though that actual facts probably won't get in the way of your assumptions.

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Originally posted by NuclearPaul
reply to post by redae71

 

IMO, it's a chemmy.

I'm sick of seeing what appears to be a beautiful day in the morning, only to have planes come over and haze out the entire sky by the afternoon with their "contrails".

I want the clear blue sky days I used to have as a kid back.

With the fluffy clouds too, not this stringy stuff on chem days.

Originally posted by neformore

Please, do some research into the subject before making such blanket statements.

Persistent contrails are an observed scientific fact and have been being observed since as early as WW2.

Originally posted by dAlen

Yes, please do some research neformore.

Seriously, it gets a bit tiresome to hear the same thing...

Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by BlackMumba

 

Can you supply a link to the Fox TV report please?



Also another thread worth looking at is this one:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

[edit on 11-12-2008 by Chadwickus]

Originally posted by redae71
... what was strange about this one was they were not consistent trails, meaning that they seemed to surge while coming off the back of the plane, you may not be able to see it in the photos but to the naked eye it was clearly visible. id say, on the side of contrails turbulance caused this, but on the side of chemtrails, whatever they use to spray the mixture was stuttering? what do you think?