Al Gore sued by over 30.000 Scientists for fraud

Its about time something like this happened, Gore has made an absolute fortune off his claims, all designed to make money off people by taxing everyone for cleaner air, they did i with water so why not air also?

This has been going on for a long time, HERE is a thread I did over a year ago, about a Parent taking the British Government to court trying to stop the distribution of Gores film to all secondary schools in England and Wales, claiming it was all BS, which IMO it is.

What is happening is Nature trying to fix herself and her Creation, nothing we can do is going to prevent that, the sooner we drop fossil fuel burning the better, but sadly, with recent reports that it's already too late, I fear Mankind is doomed.

The World will be just fine, it is Humans who will be no more, what an achievement huh? we are so smart, we will hold the record for shortest lived species on Earth ever.

We as a race feel we are so fantastic and wonderful, yet here we are facing our own stupid annihilation, sad. all that money made from pumping crap into the atmosphere, and it's done nobody any good, and ya cant take it with ya.

Then we have the so called "ELITE" what a joke, they probably think they can build a huge dome to live in until its over, LOL not if I have anything to do with it, any dome I hear of, I will endeavour to destroy it, why should they live and the hard working innocent die? a little naive to think because they are wealthy they will survive, what a crock.

IMO once the general population find out, they will need to go to the moon a lot quicker, I doubt they will be safe here on Earth, if my family are going to suffer, then so shall they.

reply to post by RFBurns


its got nothing to do with winning the law suit..its all about being heard...something thats become impossible...its so bad even tv presenters in england who had been making nature programmes for 30 years have been savked by the bbc for saying they are skeptical about global warming...

its being forced on us..and it needs to be stopped..

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Of course Al Gore didn't dream up global warming by himself, it was some crackhead enviros in the 70's. Did you even check the video in the first post?

He is still the figurehead of global warming. Sueing him is more symbolic than anything, and a way to start a debate on the subject.

Personally, while we are certainly polluting the earth, I'm not convinced that humans are the cause of climate change, or that we have any say in the matter. The climate is and has always been changing, and it has nothing to do with us.

It's rather delusional to think humans have the power to change environmental trends that have been going on for thousands if not millions of years, in only a few decades, by driving cars. If life on earth were that fragile, I'm surprised it has survived for BILLIONS, I repeat, B-I-L-L-I-O-N-S, as in _SEVERAL_ BILLION years. I don't think people realize how long a time that is.

And also, based on how little we actually know about the earths climate and life in general, I mean often times we can't even predict what weather is going to be like tomorrow, I think it's extremely arrogant and ignorant to say that there is no debating global warming. Who do these people think they are??


That's all I have to say about that.

GOOD!
I hope it is 300,000.
Hopefully he will reap what he deserves.
Glacial and inter-glacial periods are a common occurence on Earth....And guess what? They are also a common occurence on other planets as well. You do know that the other planets are also warming up to, right? So how does man made global warming effect those planets, I wonder. The Malkevitch cycles seem to account for the fluctuations, almost entirely. What is odd about our current inter-glacial period, is how stable it is. Ice-core records show that the past 800,000 years have been pretty sporadic in fluctuations.
Oh, and the inter-glacial before this one was way hotter.

Originally posted by RFBurns

Besides, the number on the other forum page says 30 DOT 000, not 30,000. So it must either be a typo or only 30 scientists.


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Correct me if I'm wrong, but in other countries they use a decimal point instead of a comma...Just saying.

reply to post by ZindoDoone

One thing bto remember on this whole can of worms. Algore and his friends in GE own or controll 87% of all the Green tech thats out there and is being pushed under their agenda. Gore himself is the CEO of the largest carbon credits firms and stands to make billions if this hoax is perpetrated on the worlds populace!

You, my friend, hit the nail on the head. As one wise old sage once said:

"Follow the money trail".

Al Gore is green, but not in the way the tree huggers define green; it's the way bankers define green.

All of this could have been avoided if more people watched Penn and Teller's Bullsh*t

What with all the lifeforms that preceded us and even those who are still around today with us, the amount of gas produced by all other lifeforms and not humans would surely have accounted for global warming before now.

Ohhhhh hang on, only us humans have to pay the Green tax for our expulsions whether organically carbon based or industrial, fair enough then it is our fault.

Ignore the ice samples taken that show the warming and cooling of Earth happens in cycles.

Ooops sorry just farted, there goes another bit of the ozone

Wolfie

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Ohhhhh hang on, only us humans have to pay the Green tax for our expulsions whether organically carbon based or industrial, fair enough then it is our fault.

Well, unless you consider the tax the government plans to tax hogs and cows for passing gas:
www.msnbc.msn.com...

Tax cows, hogs for passing gas, burping?
4:23 p.m. ET, Fri., Dec. 5, 2008

MONTGOMERY, Ala. - For farmers, this stinks: Belching and gaseous cows and hogs could start costing them money if the federal government decides to charge fees for air-polluting animals.

Farmers so far are turning their noses up at the notion, which they contend is a possible consequence of an Environmental Protection Agency report after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in 2007 that greenhouse gases amount to air pollution. Livestock emit methane, a key greenhouse gas tied to global warming.

"This is one of the most ridiculous things the federal government has tried to do," said Alabama Agriculture Commissioner Ron Sparks, an outspoken opponent of the fees.

I may be wrong but I thought that this particular thread was about some scientists sueing Al Gore. Having read the thread it would appear that actually it is just a way for people to put over their own anti-climate change views. What these have to do with the OP I have no idea. If people really want to discuss climate change then start a thread on a particular issue and then let it be discussed in some scientific depth rather than with a few dodgy web links to rather ill-informed sites.

Or maybe not...

This is the second scam by Al Gore. People have forgotten the Y2K scam he pulled which generated tax revenues for Bill Clinton to balance the books. I think the Nobel Peace Prize was given to him in exchange for his presidency, which has nothing to do with world peace. The supreme court in U.K already ruled his movie to be a scam years ago.

This seems to be pretty old news and from what I can tell even in the link in the in the original post, no suit has yet been filed.

There are plenty of site repeating the claim that Al Gore has been sued, but all the new articles only state the John Coleman, founder of The Weather Channel, wants to sue Al Gore or is calling for Al Gore to be sued.

Google Search

The debate over climate change has been fouled by those who have turned the concept into religion whose dogma cannot be challenged without serious threat to the career of any scientist or politician brave enough to do so.

This is probably pretty close to the truth relative to predicting climate change:

Even the UN's climate panel, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, admits in its 2001 report that the climate is a "complex, non-linear, chaotic object" whose long-run evolution cannot be predicted by any method. In this the panel echoes the celebrated paper Deterministic Non-Periodic Flow, with which the mathematician Edward Lorenz founded the new mathematical discipline of chaos theory in 1963. Precisely because the climate is, in mathematical terms, a chaotic object, it is altogether impossible to predict the likelihood, timing, magnitude, duration, or even the sign of any "phase transition" - the mathematical term for a sudden, extreme event that temporarily disrupts what otherwise appears to be the steady state of the object. For this reason, it is not possible to ascribe individual extreme-weather events to "global warming", as the IPCC makes explicitly clear in both its 2001 and 2007 reports.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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global warming is another pillar from which global gov't is supposed to be needed to fix-but there is more to it than that but first;

we will have world gov't thru consent or conquest- Paul warburg

global warming may be an option to have world gov't thru consent by convincing people who have good intentions toward "the planet and limiting pollution" INTO believing that global warming is too big of an issue for them NOT to have on there side - and that requires believing it is true

global warming is also about the power and control aspect surrounding the Carbon credit's and how they will be rationed out. At least in my current opinion. But i'm still learning so....

I will start worry when we can control the sun.Till then we are just dreaming.

Originally posted by ZindoDoone
One thing bto remember on this whole can of worms. Algore and his friends in GE own or controll 87% of all the Green tech thats out there and is being pushed under their agenda. Gore himself is the CEO of the largest carbon credits firms and stands to make billions if this hoax is perpetrated on the worlds populace!

Zindo

Zin, money can really Talk...................

Don't know where those figures came from, but I'm betting that someone has made up the statistics. There was a recent flap over "90% of the scientists don't believe in global warming" stats posed by someone who didn't believe in global warming. When a pack of us checked his figures, we found that this was wrong.

98% of the climate scientists (and a hefty percentage of other scientists) believe it's going on and that man is contributing to it.

Given the relatively small number of scientists in the world, I'd love to see the list of thirty thousand. If they're just putting every name they find on it, I know a whole bunch of scientists who are going to sue THEM.

The most damning evidence against Mr. Gore is that if global warming is real, why is he living in a huge estate, using incredible amounts of electricity and flying all over in a private jet? If he is correct, perhaps he should be sued for personally destroying the environment He creates more CO2 in a year than I will in my life. Pretty damning evidence, eh?

The Nobel Prize for the guy in the private jet who is personally causing more Global Warming than a 100 other people combined Come on, the people of this planet can't be that stupid; but they are.

Then he invests in and starts companies to sell fake carbon credits which you will pay for in the increased prices of goods. Before this is over, some people may literally starve to death over those fake carbon credits.

Even if people believe in Global Warming, they must be blind to not see how Gore is playing everyone for fools. He makes the Bankers look honest.

Sorry if I hurt anyone's feelers being honest about their deity the great Algore. He would not call 911 if he saw you dieing in front of him and yet people worship at his alter.


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I'm old enough to remember and I've been following this for my whole adult life. In the 70's the claim was we were heading into an ice age and that all plant life would be dead within 30 years. All the Salmon would be gone (we have had record runs up here the last few years). All the sea life would be gone. We would run out of oil in 24 years (had that pounded into my head by my Geology Professor in 1973, he also insisted we would run out of Uranium Ore to fuel reactors with before we ran out of oil). Yeah, history shows these people can be believed

They know that most people don't pay attention and don't know what was said a couple of decades ago. They know they can line their pockets with gold by scaring us. Betcha a dime that twenty years from now this topic won't be even mentioned any more and a whole new Bogeyman will take its place. Perhaps it will be we need to pay more taxes to bail out bankrupt Carbon Credit companies, eh?

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How do you feel about Mr. Gore, his mansion, his private jet, his demands we do without the things he has an abundance of while he continues to create massive amounts of CO2 and his profiting off of selling carbon credits that only exist on paper?

It is hard to play along when I know for a fact they lied about the Salmon, the oil, all the trees dying and many more topics in the 70's and now we are supposed to accept any of them know what they are talking about? Absurd. Academicians are just as arrogant about what they know today as they were when they declared the Sun orbited the Earth. We know a little more, but very little. They don't even know how oil forms yet. gravity is still a mystery. What they insist is true today will be fiction tomorrow; that much I do know.

If either side were honest, they would just say "We Don't Know" but their arrogance controls them. Tree's die without CO2 and yet it is bad for the environment? Mars is warming at the same time and yet the Sun has nothing to do with it? Everything they think they know today will be laughed at a few decades from now.

The Salmon runs are huge and the Biologists won't even talk about it. The workers who live with and work along side the Polar Bears say the numbers are increasing and yet people who spent a week there say they are wrong. The Caribou herds have grown by huge numbers since the pipeline was put in and yet they refuse to acknowledge it. The trees are still here and thriving even though people with the same education told us in the 70's they would be gone. There are huge untapped oil pools even though they taught us in the 70's there would be none left by now. The world has ample food if only there was a way to get it to them through corrupt governments and yet we were told much of the world would starve by now.

These were all experts educated at the same Universities and we should believe what they say without question? I can't. Science has a long history of being mostly wrong. Its time for them to come out of the Ivory, Ivy Covered Towers and look into the mirror of history and see what the real chance is that they are right this time.

Remember the Ozone Hole over Kennebunkport???