Sleep Paralysis - I just woke up with a Demon atop my bed.

reply to post by s0ndernet


If you look at the big picture, there is spiritual warfare going on at all times. I think God allows us to have a glimpse of this to make us aware and open our eyes. Sometimes we need that experience to put us back on the right path. It's not a path towards any particular "religion" but to pray to God and believe in Jesus Christ, read the bible and live our lives according to the word of God. I would treat this as a wake up call for your soul, no judging towards you personally intended. I just know that God has a way of drawing us back to Him.

reply to post by s0ndernet

that's some scary #...

I think this says alot.

goodnight



[edit on 28-11-2008 by kilad]

sOndernet wrote:

"You mentioned something about causing some excitement over the creator statements.
I was trying to be specific about my experience, i dont usually pray before bed and i don't subscribe to a God of a religion but i do believe in a creator who is God. That's important when mentioning what i felt was a demon(enemy of God) assaulting me.

You asked if it was sleep paralysis or hallucination. i was paralyzed and i saw something which was not a hallucination. Science would like to make everyone think this is a matter of hallucination or dream state. I AM CERTAIN of what i saw that is why i said it was not a hallucination."

sOndernet,
Your sum up indicates - to me - you are learning quickly. Fear vs love, ect. Manifesting our own fears. Let me add some perspective. Let us consider that a world in which one thing/being can be separate from another is a world of sleep and fear. What we consider to be an awakened state - if it involves 'other' characters "good" or "evil" - is still a sleeping state. The individuated state of being only seems awake relative to the more obvious sleep states. Consider this to be a trick...trick of mind...of our mind...which is one mind. To consider individuated states of being 'real', or 'not a hallucination'...is to be sleeping, relative to what I will call Reality. Should Reality sleep, it's dream would be one of separation and fear because its reality is one of oneness and love. I would suggest that you are really Reality...sleeping...hallucinating. As such, the entire world of time, distance, form...is an hallucination.

I see a correlation between your prayer to gOd, the creator of the individuated states of being, between your willingness to be a 'warrior' for such gOd's agenda...and the attack you experienced. The gOd of the individuated state of being plays both sides of the "good and evil" coin, and masks its agenda by misdirection. The primary misdirection is to focus your attention upon an axis of "good and evil" instead of on TRuE or FaLse. The entire dichotomy of good and evil is FaLse. The idea that there is a gOd of different individuals is FaLse. If you admit to, or accept such a gOd, you relenquish your Reality as LORd of all experience, both real and unreal. Sleep paralysis can only be for a mind that does not believe itself to be 'lord'. Such a mind must be operating under fear, whether it is obvious or not. This is the fear one must transcend that love may set it free of different, individuated states of being.


To awaken from individuated states is the true...ultimate awakening. To accomplish this, set your mind on remembering your awakened Reality. It is equal to whatever else may be real. If your Realiy has a Creator, it is sTill equal to that Creator. The Creator does not 'lord it' over its Creation. There is no heirarchy. There is no such thing as evil. All is good, all is love, all is awake, all is joy, all is bliss, all is one. The sleeping mind is fairly oblivious to its Reality as such. But if you can remember, you can awaken.

Begin perhaps by thinking of all 'other' beings as masks over the real YOU. The masks symbolize your thoughts about yourself, none of which really represent yourSelf. The gOd of different individuals is against yourSelf. So when you align with it as a warrior, you may experience an attack on whatever it is you are believing is you at the moment. Its an internal conflict. All unique beings, each with its own mind, are hallucinations of one mind, Your true mind. This gOd is one such being. As it is welcomed into your mind, it seeks to take posession of it, and working against it, makes this world. If you believe it's world is real, it wins...for a while. But its days are numbered as time is its domain. So long as dreamers focus on good and evil instead of true and false, its domain remains. Consider its domain a product of an ancient desire.

Christ!

[edit on 28-11-2008 by Christ!]

Originally posted by Christ!
Begin perhaps by thinking of all 'other' beings as masks over the real YOU. The masks symbolize your thoughts about yourself, none of which really represent yourSelf. The gOd of different individuals is against yourSelf. So when you align with it as a warrior, you may experience an attack on whatever it is you are believing is you at the moment. Its an internal conflict. All unique beings, each with its own mind, are hallucinations of one mind, Your true mind. This gOd is one such being. As it is welcomed into your mind, it seeks to take posession of it, and working against it, makes this world. If you believe it's world is real, it wins...for a while. But its days are numbered as time is its domain. So long as dreamers focus on good and evil instead of true and false, its domain remains. Consider its domain a product of an ancient desire.

Christ!

::shakes off more ignorance::
Thank you for your kind words!

Does the gOd that 'makes this world' (demiurge?) exist as part of the whole to my true mind(Self) or is it separate? Do i incorporate this
"You dont't see if you only see what your allowed to see" a lyric from a song that is playing right Now. Something mySelf organized inside this dream to awaken me further in the true mind?
This view of Self attempting to organizing a part of the dream world that the gOd has constructed is a functional one for me, it makes 'synchronicities' make sense among a lot of other things.

As such, the entire world of time, distance, form...is an hallucination.

Thank you for the 'wake up call'! This isn't the first time i've heard this particular alarm bell(as information and experience) ringing out at me to wake up.
For me, the mere fact that its sooo hard to hold and ground this belief in this reality is more proof of your point.
I have not needed very much sleep since this experience and mySelf has been very alert as such my visual hallucination of Reality has shifted much. I am not seeing light the same anymore and color and distance is changing.
Matter of fact at times i feel there is no distance in my visual input, a frightening(at the time) affect i experienced on acid once, i struggled with seeing my Reality as a lens placed over my REALness[does that make sense?) and it brought me places in my 'belief's system'(hah what a term) i wasn't ready for yet

This is something i've totally overlooked until now.
I am more awake when i open eyelids with muscles, different muscles than the ones i use to rise from a thing i call a bed, where i use vision and mind to hallucinate(a different word for dream) what i have been convinced is my fully awake state of reality and not the dream(hallucination) i just left behind.
How could i disregard the fact that i may still be asleep inside this vehicle i call a body, and why do i chose to confuse with more seperations and complications whats clear which is that mySelf is still trying to wake this self. With every moment my true self is attempting to orchestrate a new drama that might make us more aware of the truth

Is it possible to be Awake as you understand Awake and also to be fallng back in and out of this Hallucination/Dream called Reality when we chose?
IS THIS THE POINT OF FREE WILL!? holy majoley! is this really the reason we have free will is because we can wake up any time and dream reality again at CHOICE?
Do we need this dream or this dreams dream for any reason? Once we have fully awoken to the true mind?

What are the defining factors regarding our condition as it relates to the ability to be conscious of this dream Reality while playing in it as well as be AWAKE as it truly is?
Can we be both at the same time since time doesnt exist for the fully AWAKE Self

I have come to love the term 'Dream Awake' very much lately.
WOW i am literally running racing towards a new reality and that does not include this keyboard. alarm bells are ringing and i need to stay focused.

[edit on 28-11-2008 by s0ndernet]
WOW being more awake than yesterday is a good feeling. By your world view, you are not individual from me and so you are myself giving me the warning i need via this electronic virtual medium that pushes the limits of this dream world. hmmmm

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Back in 1978 while stationed at George AFB in southern California near Victorville I had a similar experience. I awoke from a deep sleep probably around 2 AM to find myself completely paralyzed. I was afraid that I might be having a stroke and kept trying to touch my wife who was lying asleep next to me and pregnant at the time with our second child. During this entire experience, which seemed like forever but probably only lasted a couple of minutes, there was a black mass that seemed to be of human shape hovering at what appeared to be a couple of feet above my body but offset to the left (not directly over me). Also during the experience I could hear children playing and laughing in the bedroom next to mine where our first child was sleeping. He was just over two years old and was the only child in the house other than his unborn brother my wife was carrying. I remember the sensation of intense vibration throughout my body. When I finally managed to touch my sleeping wife the entire experience ended very abruptly as if nothing had happened. I was shaken and wide awake, but eventually managed to fall back to sleep. I've never had another experience like it and will never forget it. I know that I was fully awake and was trying intently to awaken my wife for help. It was very strange that it all ended the instant I touched her. It almost seemed that I was projected into the future and was hearing my then unborn son playing with his brother. I don't know if I was having some kind of out of body experience, but this seems unlikely, as it seems to me that in such experiences I've read about the astral body is able to look down and see the physical body--not the other way around as happened to me. Anyway, I just wanted to convey my experience. Odds are you'll never have this kind of frightening experience again. At least I hope not.

sOndernet, I had 4000 words for you but they are all deleted due to inexperience with the way these text boxes work. Try tommorrow.

reply to post by SS,Naga


There are a great many theories about the nature of the spirit world, higher dimensions and all that, and personally, I don't think anyone has the answers. Maybe JC did, but the gosple where he explains these things seem to have been hidden from us.

What I have experienced is when you fight, they leave you alone. Your physical body gives you considerable power. Our real problem is the weakness of our ability to sense these other worlds.

Give it a shock and send it away, and it will be reluctant to return, and look for easier prey, this is the nature of parasites. Also, once you have detected such a thing, it becomes easier to detect it in the future.

Every conscious struggles with itself, so if we are all truly part of one giant conscious, it still does not change the fact that we continue to struggle. It is my opinion for awhile now that there will be struggle in the higher plains, as there is struggle here in this plain. Struggle is the nature of the existance of life.

Welcome the struggle as the path forward.

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Certainly well put; great insights. I like your awareness, for it resounds of experience.

Christopher Hill ("Nuclear Evolution") described about the same thing you are saying, but coined the term, 'Creative Conflict." Two opposites encountering each other, whether as large or small 'sets.' Yes, this continues in all states of duality & polarity. The Soul level (some call it the 5th D) is the transition state, wherein you reside in the true 'Zero Point,' beyond which the darkness is left behind.

And you are right, no two groups agree in definitions of the demarcations of the middle path, or stairway to 'heaven.'

Please be aware that there are many denizens of the 'dream' dimensions, some of which have the nature of preying upon humanity for their sustenance, and are not dissuaded from returning by resistence: they may be repulsed for awhile, but these are 'feeders,' gatherers of effluvium, operating on many levels. They not only consume the glowing coat of awareness, but retain & refine it into the 'golden broth' for their masters, the ruling forces of awareness, of which the Earth-Moon is the primary generator, which humanity is subject to (humancoop).

Far out? So is Reality. Much farther than the 'concrete oriented' members of humanity can ever suspect.

It is not the political rulers who's agenda is forwarded upon the Earth, but their masters. This is a moot point, for the conrete-oriented refute inner dimensional realites. Oh well for them.

[edit on 29-11-2008 by SS,Naga]

This happens to me when I am at my parents home. When my sister and I shared rooms I used to tell her something would hold me down in bed or I felt something around my lower regions.. sometimes I would experiance sleep apnea. She never believed me until one night I was sleep and we was watching tv (thank goodness we shared rooms at the time) next thing you know my head is turning side to side. She can see me trying to move and I with all my power I turn my head to her and she is noticing I'm calling her name and hears nothing. So she slaps me until I " come to my senses" it was so scary. I heard mumbling, deep voices, and scary laughing I have not had these episodes in a month. I don't know if anything happened when my parents house was being built or if something happend on the land but its scary and I suffered severe insomnia when I lived there.. I can recall a couple times were this happened outside of there home but I don't like it at all. Also does anyone see black figures looking over you during the middle of the night? What is that all about?? >

I don't believe I have posted to this site in many years--I do, however, enjoy the emails and randomly read articles through this means. However, this topic I believe is the reason I signed up on this site--and I feel compelled to post.

When I was a kid, I used to have episodes where I was paralyzed when I was trying to wake. It lasted I'm guessing a few minutes as I attempted to scream for my parents and run out of my bedroom. This happened on multiple occasions and my doctor said it was something that wasn't too uncommon among children. Something with a part of the brain being asleep and another awake I believe. I wrote off this phenom as a type of medical condition.

I had all but forgotten about this until age 22-24. I began having these episodes happen to me CONSISTANTLY 2-4x weekly for a few years. However, they were nowhere near the same. It started with being 'levitated' by a handful of demonic figures (picture crowd surfacing at some demonic ritual). I would be rotated around the room by demons up to a height of the ceiling. Needless to say, this began to scare the crap out of me and I began being fearful of going to sleep. I also began attending church multiple times a week and began taking bible study classes after my 8-5pm job.

After months of this torture I was experiencing, I began to lose my fear (yes this is when I was seeking for answers and related stories on the internet and found this site) and put my complete faith in Jesus. Mind you, I'm not a religious nut and now only attend church on the holidays. It was then that I was able to have some more interesting and actually fascinating experiences. I was able to 'break free' from the demonic feeling I felt and have what ppl described as lucid dreams. This included some floating/flying above my presence to the apartment above me and eventually out the window around the community. Yea it sounds a little crazy. My girlfriend was actually scared to sleep over my apartment with me.

However, for giggles, I knocked on the neighbor's apartment above me and entered it with my girlfriend for the first time. The master bedroom was how I described it to a 'Tee'. Anyway, that's my experiences. This has been probably 6 years ago or so. I've since moved out of that dump apartment and not experienced any of those episodes since.

Over time, I kinda have discounted these experiences to an episode of taking 7g of 'shake' mushrooms on an empty stomach. While many ppl left the party cause they thought I was going to die, I had what I believed as a religious experience. I won't get into it here, but I sometimes felt my brain may have been screwed up a little after that for the next few years. However, I know in my heart that what happened to me was real. It's just easier to forget about and blame it on drugs than being some sort of freak... Hopefully something of what I experienced can help you. Anyway, best of luck with this.

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OMG!! That's so much better than porn or masturbating. LOL!!

I think many of you people are being very cruel here. This person is asking for help and you laugh. I know for a fact that strange "demons" do exist. I live in the Swamps of the Deep South and there are certain Swamps that nobody will dare enter because of certain "Demons". I've actually SEEN one "dancing" one night when I was camping alone running a trap line. You couldn't PAY me enough to go back to that part of the Swamps. I've never been scared of anything but that sight scared me so badly that I still have bad dreams from it.
Please be more considerate and understanding. I have several Native American (Creek Indian) friends that knew exactly what I had seen but I can't remember what they called it.

I'm sorry but I just cannot read through 13 pages, at least not right now.

However, I will say that I believe OP about his/her story. Sleep is an especially vulnerable time for attack by entities or by beings on the astral plane. It does sound like, s0ndernet, that you were being fed on. Sexual energy is especially coveted, it seems, by negative entities.

You sound very strong, and like you and your father handled it well. If you keep up like this, I have no doubt you will be fine. Don't listen to the negativity. You know what happened to you.

Thank you for sharing your story. I have issues with my dreams, too. (That's another topic.)

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I have had a similar experience. In June 2005, I was asleep and thought I felt my cat jump up and sit next to me on the right side of the bed. But I heard a woman say "she looks lovely in her sleep" and it actually felt comforting, like it was a relative from years past (I do family trees). I then had a dream that was very lucid where I felt my grandpa sit on the left side of my bed. We talked for awhile and I asked him if he came for my grandma who was sick. He said no I came to see you! He told me he was proud of me and happy that I remembered him so fondly (I was about 4 when he died but we were close). He said not to worry and everything will be ok. Well I woke up and everything was ok. I saw the clock and it said 1:25. I got up and put my cat in the other room bc she was meowing and being annoying. I fell back to sleep. Around 3, I woke up again but this time it was in terror! I couldn't move, felt like something evil was on me, and it lasted only a few seconds. It was like I used my mind to push this force off of me (I had a sexual assault in 2000 during sleep) so I freaked! Finally, I said get the f*** off of me really loud and pushed with my arms causing me to sit up. There was no one else in the house.

One weird thing is that I am totally convinced that my daughter who is almost 12 was conceived on the astral plane. Yes it's weird. However, she looks nothing like my ex but looks like my fiance. I didn't know my fiance 12 yrs ago (so no stupid jokes lol). I have known him for about 3 yrs. On the night my daughter was concieved, there was alcohol involved and it is possible that I would have felt comfortable going astral.

I have always been spiritual and have never done a drug in my life. One thing that I have felt when I am very tired is something in the back of my head that feels like an electrical shock as I drift into sleep. Apparently, this is linked to sleep paralysis en.wikipedia.org...

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Pathetic, grow up.

Cant there be maturity and trust when people are talking about awkward things? This person is asking for help to deal with it, not for people to make sexual jokes.

If you need to relieve your 'urges' then go somewhere else and talk about it, this site isnt for crap like that.

Originally posted by RFBurns
I recall a number of times when for no reason at all, I would wake up just lying there in bed, and could not move, as if some force or energy was keeping my body still and there was absolutely nothing I could do but lie there and wait. Sometimes the experience would last up to 30 minutes, sometimes shorter.

 

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This is more common than you think. I am a psychologist by education and this has been studied quite thoroughly. Sleep paralysis happens to everyone every time they sleep. When in the REM stage of sleep one is in fact in a state of paralysis. The limbs are unable to move and the body is in complete paralysis. This is documented fact. This is what I would offer as an explanation; the op had a nightmare, awoke in middle or end of it and although had consciousness had not completely emerged from REM sleep, it is a very common occurrence and is referred to as Atonia. I am going to provide a couple of links so you can read this for yourself.

www.medterms.com...

serendip.brynmawr.edu...

The latter link specifically discusses the phenomena of seeing the "beast" on your chest, head, body...etc.

Edited for grammatical correction

[edit on 11/30/2008 by DarrylGalasso]

I would offer you an explanation; however, you have already closed you mind to the power which it holds and you would not accept the explanation given to you no matter whom it came from, let alone another person here, unless of course it agrees with what your perception of the event is. Just for the sake of listening to you ridicule my explanation, I will offer it anyway. It is called Atonia and is in fact quite common. Being the holder of a MBA in psychology I would know absolutely nothing about this, so please feel free to disregard anything I am telling you. No matter what you think of me personally, you must understand that the mind is powerful beyond your comprehension (or mine), it has been documented that people can suffer physical injuries while in a safe environment and monitored constantly during sleep. This is the power that your mind has over your body, to underestimate that power or think that you can understand everything your mind does is not only foolish, it is rather arrogant as well.

I am going to finish with this very honest statement; One's perception is in fact their reality.

reply to post by DarrylGalasso

VERY Sorry, but psychology can explain concrete responses all they want, and never come close to 'the other,' without direct experience (try Ingo Swann, my friend: try studying his body of proven work! ).

Hiro Takahashi has no personal Realization of FULLY CONSCIOUS interiorization of the Self (I, and others, have). Here, read his own words:
"How an episode of Sleep Paralysis induces visual or auditory hallucinations is still not clear..."

Don't let your concrete psychology studies prevent you from attaining the Inner Reality(s); achieve the abstract Awareness, like those advancing before you have already done.

The Ether (aether) has been hypothesized, but is so far unproven by science. Suspect anything might be beyond your concrete beliefs, yet?

I have travelled in the fully conscious interior soul state. Please be aware:

Non-dreaming sleep :: dreaming state :: lucid dreaming :: astral experience :: soul consciousness. This later is experienced by few, with the astral experience being more common, though containing many levels of 'interior conscious awareness.'

Because you & others haven't experienced this, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Ingo Swann: begin.

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My friend,

I am the outcast of my doctoral program because of my abstract ideas and ways of thinking and I think the only reason they do not kick me out is because it would be hard to justify with my GPA of 3.97. I was only offering an answer that was based in something credible not some wild concocted idea of my mind or what I may or may not believe. I have found that when I offer my own theories which cannot be substantiated by credible information, that I will receive far more ridicule and harassment than I ever get for using documented credible information. What I believe means exactly 2 things; Jack and squat, what I can prove; however, carries much more weight. If you expect me to take anyone's word for anything they say then you expect me to be a fool and I am sorry to disappoint you in that regard. If you expect me to respond to something using that which can either be proven or is most likely through the explanations of documented studies then I can hopefully fulfill that. I am not saying that a little green alien staring at this guy and smirking and then suddenly and without explanation vanishing right before his eyes is not possible (lol); however, I am saying that it is bizarre and there are studies that explain it in a reasonable and MUCH more believable fashion. I am not telling you what to believe, in fact I could care less what you believe that is your business, but, if you are trying to sell me on the idea of the tooth fairy or Santa Claus you are wasting your time.

Personally if something like that ever happened to me, I would be setting up surveillance in my room every night when I went to bed, not because I wanted to catch it, but because I know that at least then people wouldn't think I overdosed on a hallucinogenic before I went to bed and am talking out of insanity or out of hysteria.

Edited for spelling

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