hovering UFO in IR

Hovering UFO in infrared

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click on video and watch in high quality.

This video proves there is somthing going on in IR that we just can't see.

You've just got to look at some of the nasa videos these anomilies are all around us.


[edit on 23-11-2008 by Ufoash]

[edit on 23-11-2008 by Ufoash]

Originally posted by Ufoash

Hovering UFO in infrared

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This video proves there is somthing going on in IR that we just can't see.

[edit on 23-11-2008 by Ufoash]

Yeah the IR debate is heating up! But if that video is genuine I have no explanation. Usually IR movies I've seen have objects that could be birds or bugs. This one is totally different.

Obsidience

I think it is a little strange that the person who filmed this pointed the camera up at the roof of this house as though he/she knew that something was going to come flying excactly at this spot

And the "UFOs" seem like they are just some light objects blowing in the wind. Like a feather or a soap bubble.

I think this may be a fake. Just my personal opinion, of course.

Originally posted by obsidience

Originally posted by Ufoash

Hovering UFO in infrared

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This video proves there is somthing going on in IR that we just can't see.

[edit on 23-11-2008 by Ufoash]

Yeah the IR debate is heating up! But if that video is genuine I have no explanation. Usually IR movies I've seen have objects that could be birds or bugs. This one is totally different.


I totally agree... There is loads of footage out there which people try to pretend to be UFOs.
I wouldn't post this stuff if I thought it couldn't be easily explained. This footage IS different and is plainly not of this world.

Obsidience

Originally posted by ziggystar60
I think it is a little strange that the person who filmed this pointed the camera up at the roof of this house as though he/she knew that something was going to come flying excactly at this spot

And the "UFOs" seem like they are just some light objects blowing in the wind. Like a feather or a soap bubble.

I think this may be a fake. Just my personal opinion, of course.

If you take a look at my youtube channel you'll see I purposly go out to try and film these anomilies and this time I got one, I spent several weeks during the summer to get this one.

As you can see this ball of light is clearly not a feather or a soap bubble. It hovers above the nieghbours before rapidly flying upwards into the sky.

Its is filmed in infrared, a different light wavelenth that our eyes see in and whatever it is it reflects IR.

As for being a fake, I wouldn't know where to start and what would be the point of that?!

Originally posted by Ufoash

Its is filmed in infrared, a different light wavelenth that our eyes see in and whatever it is it reflects IR.

Besides being invisible to our eyes, how is infrared different from the visible spectrum? Are there things that do not reflect visible light but do reflect infrared?

Originally posted by Ufoash

As for being a fake, I wouldn't know where to start and what would be the point of that?!

You know, I have asked myself the excact same question many times when I have run into hoaxes, lies and fakes... What is the point?

But as I said, the objects in the video in this thread does look like something that gets caught in the wind and blows away. And again, it is just my personal opinion. Perhaps others will come and post in this thread with other opinions.

One of the better amature IR videos I've seen so far.

I have one question though, Didn't you see it in your seeker or LCD Display when you shoot the footage?

I mean, if I been out for weeks filming, I would react on every little thing that moves on the screen and follow it.

This object kinda flew past your field of vision and you never reacted.

Originally posted by Phage

Originally posted by Ufoash

Its is filmed in infrared, a different light wavelenth that our eyes see in and whatever it is it reflects IR.

Besides being invisible to our eyes, how is infrared different from the visible spectrum? Are there things that do not reflect visible light but do reflect infrared?

If you google electromagnetic spectrum you'll see we see in a specific wavelenth of light. Either side of that wavelenth we see in is IR and UV, even further is X-ray and radio waves.
It is my opinion these anomilies have the ability to hide themselves in a type of cloak that is able to let visible light flow/bend light over them essentially making them invisible.
Because IR and UV are a difference wavelenth of light, it reflects rather than bends over the object which is why they glow white...

Thats why in my videos you may notice that I film in the glair of the sun, so if there is anything there it gets maximum exposure to the suns rays.

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To be honest I had my eye to the eyepiece when I was filming and not the LCD screen. I initially dismissed what I saw in the garden whilst filming this.
It wasn't until I watched it back on my pc I realized I'd caught something special. Seeing it on big screen is totally different from seeing it in a viewfinder.

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Thank you. I do know a bit about the electromagnetic spectrum.

Any idea why these "anomalies" would only cloak in the visible spectrum? Is whoever created them unaware of the capabilities of your videocam? It just doesn't seem like a very effective way of hiding.

Nice catch. I am very sceptical. A paper tissue? Foil? I am thinking though if it's IR than the temperature of that thing could be analized nad measured. As it was very bright, doesn't that mean it is also very hot? Or it is at least hotter than the air that surrounds it. Anyway, have fun debunking this one.

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The near infrared spectrum does not indicate heat levels. As the OP said, it is showing reflected infrared radiation.

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Im calling BS. It looks like a bird or some such, not a UFO.

Im calling BS. It looks like a bird or some such, not a UFO.

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Take a look at this more zoomed in version.

Press the high quality button and watch full screen.

Whatever this is, it's glowing brilliant white, has no wings, hovers in a controlled manner and flies upwards out of site as if it knew I'd seen it.

This is no bird

If you look closely there is another object at 24/25 seconds, be it faint, that can be seen flying off behind the cloud in the middle of the screen at very high speed. I think this is another object that occompanied the one I focused on.

Any idea why these "anomalies" would only cloak in the visible spectrum? Is whoever created them unaware of the capabilities of your videocam? It just doesn't seem like a very effective way of hiding.

Who knows? Maybe these things know that's the wavelenth we see in so they fly about in confidence knowing they are totally camoufaged against the sky.
Also by hiding from us in just the visible spectrum they can still see each other in either the IR or UV spectrums.

I thinks it is an effective way hiding because you very rarely see any quality footage that can be classed as reliable evidence.
How many people are filming the skies in infrared purposely tryng to catch a UFO? Not many.
You've only got to look at some of the NASA UFO videos that are filmed in IR and UV to realise these things are everywhere.

Take a look at this video if you haven't already seen it, this was filmed in UV.

THE NASA TETHER INCIDENT

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Originally posted by Phage

 

Thank you. I do know a bit about the electromagnetic spectrum.

Any idea why these "anomalies" would only cloak in the visible spectrum? Is whoever created them unaware of the capabilities of your videocam? It just doesn't seem like a very effective way of hiding.

Why wouldn't an "anomaly" only use the visible spectrum to hide..?
Your question asserts that this "anomaly" or the "occupants of said anomaly" are in fact self aware and or cognizant of the "light spectrum " as we view or perceive it.

That means that this "anomaly would know humans cannot see into the IR spectrum without equipment which covers about 99.9% of the people on this planet, and are NOT walking around equipped with IR goggles. So it would make perfect sense to only "cloak" the "visible spectrum", not worrying about that narrow band of IR.


But then that also asserts that the "object" is trying to hide which raises even more questions. Hmmm..


What exactly are you trying to ask here? You speculate, "that this is a "created" object ..therefore knows or can "presume" to second guess a would be camera man"..or the capabilities of his camera?? That is pretty presumptuous.


Are you privy to some facet of this phenomenon that we are not... or are we speaking purely hypothetically? Please explain.






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Originally posted by Alter-Ego

Why wouldn't an "anomaly" only use the visible spectrum to hide..?
Your question asserts that this "anomaly" or the "occupants of said anomaly" are in fact self aware and or cognizant of the "light spectrum " as we view or perceive it.

That means that this "anomaly would know humans cannot see into the IR spectrum without equipment which covers about 99.9% of the people on this planet, and are NOT walking around equipped with IR goggles. So it would make perfect sense to only "cloak" the "visible spectrum", not worrying about that narrow band of IR.


But then that also asserts that the "object" is trying to hide which raises even more questions. Hmmm..


What exactly are you trying to ask here? You speculate, "that this is a "created" object ..therefore knows or can "presume" to second guess a would be camera man"..or the capabilities of his camera?? That is pretty presumptuous.


Are you privy to some facet of this phenomenon that we are not... or are we speaking purely hypothetically? Please explain.


[edit on 24-11-2008 by Alter-Ego]

I didn't speculate.

The OP said that he thinks the thingies are cloaking in the visible spectrum. I asked him if he had any ideas about why they would only be interested in cloaking such a narrow portion of the EM spectrum. He was the one who speculated about hiding and cloaking. He has now elaborated a bit more on his speculation.

I'm not privy to any thing about these amorphous blobs that keep showing up in infrared photos and videos. I do know that by using the infrared band when filming the sky, the sky is darkened and contrast is enhanced. I also know that an out of focus piece of dandelion fluff being tossed around by the wind can look like a lot like an amorphous blob.




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Thank you for clarifying that. I was worried for a moment. There seemed to be alot of assumptions flying around.

Originally posted by Ufoash
This video proves there is somthing going on in IR that we just can't see.

No, it just proves that you caught something in IR.

To know if those things are only visible in IR you need two cameras pointing in the same direction, one using IR the other visible light. This system would have the added advantage of being able to know the altitude of the objects caught on both cameras, knowing the angle between both cameras.

I have suggested this to everyone I know that makes those type of videos (regardless of wavelength used), and nobody has tried it, as far as I know.