Unseen Pentagon Footage?!!?! Wow

reply to post by angel of lightangelo

I am fully involved with the truth movement every day! I'm just not sure of any reason that would explain why they would need to switch out flight 77! Why not just fly the plane into the building? As for the video it is probably a red herring meant to be used to discredit the "conspiracy theorists"!

reply to post by matrix911

almost all security cameras are not real time so they can record more onto the recorder those missing frames are the cameras time lapse and the guy sounds like he should know it thats in my opinion and i work with a security camera everyday

reply to post by JipStix


You guys must be smoking the good stuff. Watch the video again. The original video is paused so you can get a good look at the plane. This is why he has to hit the arrow key so many times. Not missing frames. Come on.

Originally posted by razorvocals
reply to post by angel of lightangelo

 

I am fully involved with the truth movement every day! I'm just not sure of any reason that would explain why they would need to switch out flight 77! Why not just fly the plane into the building? As for the video it is probably a red herring meant to be used to discredit the "conspiracy theorists"!

Believe me, I get that. Where is the real plane, where are the passengers. The only problem is, when I look at the pentagon crash, I still have to ask, where is the real plane, where are the passengers?

I hope you understant my conundrum.

reply to post by deltaboy

NO its not fake!

It's ugly but you have to be honest. If it's an inside job those people have been dead since no later than 9:00am on 9/11/2001 and the planes have long since been recycled into SUVs.

reply to post by angel of lightangelo


It slid into the bottom floor of the pentagon, with all those poor people who ended up as mangled bodies.

The majority of the plane and the bodies were IN the pentagon - that is why you didn't see corpses all over the pentalawn.

Originally posted by TruthTellist
reply to post by angel of lightangelo

 

It slid into the bottom floor of the pentagon, with all those poor people who ended up as mangled bodies.

The majority of the plane and the bodies were IN the pentagon - that is why you didn't see corpses all over the pentalawn.

No....I saw no corpses anywhere. Neither did anyone else. Nor plane parts aside from a random unidentified engine and later some painted metal scraps appeared on the lawn. Where is this wreckage and bodies?

I am not saying it was a missile. I am not saying it makes sense to swap planes. I am saying that there was no plane wreckage and no bodies.

It's nice that people continue to analyze and question the authenticity of 911, but it's not gonna make any difference. The conspiracy behind 911 will for always stay behind closed doors. It's like with Kennedy. I don't believe anyone is ever gonna find out what the real motive was for assassinating him.

These people are too powerful and too few know about the real story.

I find it hilarious this debate goes on when the United States government could easily b produce a clear clip on the plane if existed.

How complacent can a person get to accept something that could easily be proven if it was true but isn't definitively proven at all.

Originally posted by arizonascott
reply to post by crmanager

 

If they had clear video of a missle hitting the Pentagon you would call it a fake.

Hey, at least you can see the object in this video

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You people claiming this is fake! How would you expect footage to look like that is filmed from a helecopter (motion), video capture an object flying in at over 600 miles per hour (missle), and then reproduced from one camera to the web. Then the enhancements you are doing to enlarge it would cause pixelation. Anyone who wouldn't expect a grainy version and pixelation from a clip like this is crazy and/or stupid.

Its no fake.

The Pentagon/Government version shows nothing! No wreckage, no plane, no luggage, no shredded cloths or seat material, no body parts, no nothing.

Never in history have three buildings let alone one building free fallen from fires

Never in history has a passenger jet vaporized in a crash

But on 9/11 - we witnessed all four amazing occurences of disasters breaking the normal laws of physics in one day -wow, imagine that!

[edit on 19-11-2008 by arizonascott]

i post the full quote as i feel i want everyone to read what was said again

in my eyes thats the most perfect summary of the matter at hand

those are the facts in the situation and we are supposed to just believe one theory,

the facts are we dont truly know who was behind this event, and we definetly dont know the truth about what happened, what we do know is that somewhere within the pipeline theres definetly something that doesnt add up

instead of it being a battle of theories, can we all just agree on all of that statement holding truth and that we dont know the rest and need to look into it since things just dont fully add up

it was the biggest thing since pearl harbor, and theres been little investigation into the situation, its still only a few years ago, we're fighting a war over this situtaion, our air travel and economy has completly changed due to this event, life as we know it will never be the same, suppressing further investigation into this event is obviously done only by those who are naive/dont want the truth coming out

maybe bush had no clue, maybe he was bin laden with a face lift, who knows? any theory could be right, i think people just need to agree on further investigation, the nation deserves it,

until there isnt a signal question up in the air, the investigation shouldnt quit

this was a event of extreme proportions and the event deserves to be still investigated today not just brushed aside as fact because a few people say its so when theres so many questions

not sure who was the first to say it
but i fully believe no questions a stupid question if its a honest question

there are alot of logical honest questions regarding 9/11 that cannot be answered

why cant we just agree to find the answers to the questions rather then bickering about theories, but we must support each other in the quest for answers if we are to achieve the full truth

maybe its not even bush or any of the common names that come up in the matter that hold the full truth, but we all deserve to find out

i look forward to reading the rest of this thread

[edit on 20-11-2008 by Dramey]

reply to post by Jezus


Are you saying that you believe a plane was not flown via remote or otherwise into the Pentagon?

*If so, please clarify as to what you think struck the Pentagon.

Your post was too ambiguous for me to determine your perspective on the matter.

I think the plane was steered into the plane via remote, the passengers and pilots possibly incapacitated, dead or unable to alter or over-ride the controlled crash into the Pentagon - which just happens to be a "Way-Point" on every GPS auto-pilot system.

The Twin towers also served as a Way-Point marker....

I find it hard to believe that the pentagon would only have time lapse video. I mean really come on people! You really believe that crap? What would be the point of having a camera if it's time lapse?? Oh look we see a uuuuh a uhhh a blur and a uuhh (nothing after for a whole minute) then we see a dead security guard. Oh well I guess that's all there is to show! What about the other dozen cameras and their footage? All we get is 3 frames this reeks of sabotage.

The Pentagon footage is lapsed in general, meaning that it rolls forward at One to Two Frames Per Second. This is typical of many security Cameras, as it allows for a Video Analyst to Freeze any Frame, and still retain the image quality of a still photograph. It also allows for less essential Security Zones to be recorded, while leaving plenty of room for the Data Storage to retain Higher Risk Zones at Full Frame Rates (ie, 30 FPS).

As for the Video Footage from the "Helo", LOL what a FAKE. In this video the guy talks about the Pentagon trying to fool Americans through "Fake Explosions", then he proceeds to display the most awful forgery of an explosion EVER. This is a joke.

The footage of a missile hitting the Pentagon from the air is a fake. Both the missile and the explosion have been superimposed on the video. Look closely on the slow motion and you'll see the superimposed parts shift above the video layer. Additionally, the environmental lighting on the added parts is way off. A poor edit indeed.

Th8nker

Originally posted by angel of lightangelo

Originally posted by TruthTellist
reply to post by angel of lightangelo

 

It slid into the bottom floor of the pentagon, with all those poor people who ended up as mangled bodies.

The majority of the plane and the bodies were IN the pentagon - that is why you didn't see corpses all over the pentalawn.

No....I saw no corpses anywhere. Neither did anyone else. Nor plane parts aside from a random unidentified engine and later some painted metal scraps appeared on the lawn. Where is this wreckage and bodies?

I am not saying it was a missile. I am not saying it makes sense to swap planes. I am saying that there was no plane wreckage and no bodies.

No Plane Wreckage?


There is an ENTIRE Debris Field:





AND BODIES:





Even SURVIVORS:





How about the Taxi and Smashed Light-Poles on Washington Boulevard (Route 27):





Here is a Diagram displaying the Flight Path, and its coorelation to the ground based characteristics:

reply to post by AnAbsoluteCreation


I told already that the whole thing is a fake. Both the so called missile and the explosion. Jeez! I've seen this footage long time ago on youtube title missile hit on Pentagon. I knew it was a fake the moment the poster put this video up.

Originally posted by TruthTellist

Are you saying that you believe a plane was not flown via remote or otherwise into the Pentagon?

*If so, please clarify as to what you think struck the Pentagon.

Truthfully I have no idea what hit the pentagon.

It could easily be proven by video so it seems ridiculous to speculate, we should simply demand video confirmation.

However, I have seen no conclusive evidence that it was a plane. It could just be a coincidence that this plane crash is very different from most but until I see a video logic doesn't seem point in that direction.

2 simple Q's.

1. Why not show the full footage to back up their claims that a plane did hit the Pentagon.

2. Why release a ridiculously crap edited version to the public with , as we have just seen, around 15 seconds worth of frames deleted.

I dont see why the major media bigwigs dont get on the bandwagon and get some truth revealed. There is some serious *SNIP* going down people. Its as if the media are being held by the balls and are scared to say anything too controversial. 7 years and counting............


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[edit on 11/20/2008 by Hal9000]

I really don't see the point of the government withholding any footage or any part of the investigation. Its not like there weren't witnesses to every part that happened right? So why all the mystery? Who or what are they protecting by withholding evidence from the public? Just doesn't make sense to me especially when you have so many conspiracy theorys. So until the government releases all the film. Particularly the film they confiscated from a gas station nearby, uncut or unaltered, then I'm gonna believe the conspiracy theorists because the govt hasn't proven thier case.