Unseen Pentagon Footage?!!?! Wow

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reply to post by matrix911


Hi people !

You see, more interesting although, besides of the exhibition and explanation on the video, quite elucidating after all, we have a very relevant fact that it is the practically horizontal entrance of the supposed flying plane.
WHAT pilot in the world is capable to do that fly so close to the soil, practically flying horizontally in the soil!
Excuse me but, for a trained pilot it is almost impossible, can you imagine a pilot with little training.
Other comment;
I thing that in the same way that your government fake 9/11, they will simulate a big biological attack in your country and then will implement the Martial law!
Sorry folks, very, very bad day!

Take care you all !

Enric . (Brazil)

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The camera is not your typical video camera It is not recording images at 30 or 60 FPS as a high end camera. It looks like there is only 2 frames to the video. That is why he can hit the arrow button 39 times and nothing changes and one more hit and we see the explosion. The image is queued up and has'nt actually begun and at the 39 hit it begins. It last only hit of the arrow key and ends.

In addition, it seems this is a low resolution analog camera and nothing moving at a high rate of speed will look normal once converted to a progressive format for computers (or HDTV). Kind of like, when you watch an older TV program recorded in a standard diffinition format (I.E 480i) on your new HDTV (I.E. 720p or 1080p) and you hit pause on you DVR--all kinds of weird stuff starts happening. My favorite is when people seem to morgh into lizzards. Anayway, the artifacts destroy the image and why the fuselage is oddly shaped.

This camera is design to view the faces of a driver, for whatever reason, their security card not longer gives them access to the gate and they push the call button. Security can then see and speak with who is there. It is the worst type of camera for viewing fast object in the distance. At least this is how it looks to me. Below are the witness that contradict what this video claims:

136 people saw the plane approach the Pentagon, and

104 directly saw the plane hit the Pentagon.

6 were nearly hit by the plane in front of the Pentagon. Several others were within 100-200 feet of the impact.

26 mentioned that it was an American Airlines jet.

39 others mentioned that it was a large jet/commercial airliner.

2 described a smaller corporate jet. 1 described a "commuter plane" but didn't mention the size.

7 said it was a Boeing 757.

8 witnesses were pilots. One witness was an Air Traffic Controller and Pentagon tower Chief.

2 witnesses were firefighters working on their truck at the Pentagon heliport.

4 made radio calls to inform emergency services that a plane had hit the Pentagon.

10 said the plane's flaps and landing gear were not deployed (1 thought landing gear struck a light pole).

16 mentioned seeing the plane hit light poles/trees, or were next to to the poles when it happened. Another 8 mentioned the light poles being knocked down: it's unknown if they saw them hit.

42 mentioned seeing aircraft debris. 4 mentioned seeing airline seats. 3 mentioned engine parts.

2 mentioned bodies still strapped into seats.

15 mentioned smelling or contacting aviation/jet fuel.

3 had vehicles damaged by light poles or aircraft debris. Several saw other occupied vehicles damaged.

3 took photographs of the aftermath.

Many mentioned false alarm warnings of other incoming planes after the crash. One said "3-4 warnings."

And of course,

0 saw a military aircraft or missile strike the Pentagon.

0 saw a plane narrowly miss the Pentagon and fly away.

looks like the security booth footage is showing a time lapse shot (basically it pauses on the one frame where the "projectile" is visible.)

It is not hovering in real time, in mid air.

The Security booth cam takes like one picture every 5 seconds. It's not very good camera equipment. It has to run 24/7.

However the speed must be fast for it to have a 500 foot explosion on the pentagon with the projectile still leaving it's imprimp on the frame.

So my conclusion is, it's not doctored (well perhaps the shape of the projectile was touched up to make it look more like a commercial passenger AA jet), but it is moveing much faster than the 500 mph were told. Whats the speed of a Cruise missile? I bet it'd be about 3/4 x's that without even looking and haveing zero knowledge of it, just going buy what I'm seeing in the timelapsed surveillance tape.

As far as the helicopter film. I'm sorry, that looks completely fake to me, and it looks childish fake. That isn't something the government would release.

Swampfox - I know of 3 'truther' sites run by debunkers and official story tellers and their sites are not only 'goofy' but popular too!. Pseudo skeptics and disinformants oh my!. What they dont know is that they are being watched and documented.

Now back on topic.




Why does my local lowgrade confectionary have better security cameras than the pentagon? Can the framerate get any lower in the pentagon videos before you have to call them a photograph slideshow?

OK, just gonna attack the WINGSPAN issue here....

Wingspan of 757 = 124 ft
Length of FIRE ENGINE = 24 - 28 ft

Look at picture, that cant be any more than 2 and 1/2 or 3 fire trucks wide
which is only 62 -75 ft wide....NOT 124 ft

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Originally posted by kyleplatinum
OK, just gonna attack the WINGSPAN issue here....

Wingspan of 757 = 124 ft
Length of FIRE ENGINE = 24 - 28 ft

Look at picture, that cant be any more than 2 and 1/2 or 3 fire trucks wide
which is only 62 -75 ft wide....NOT 124 ft

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Wow! That sounds so logical.

Makes perfect sense too.

I'm sure something was missed??? Had to be???

Let's read what is posted below.

reply to post by cashlink


The damage to the Pentagon was roof to ground.

Helicopter footage looks like a really bad fake.

I remember watching a computer simulation where the white that many mistook for the fuselage was in actuality smoke from a damaged wing engine on the right side of the plane.
Apparently this damage was caused when the 757 his light poles on rout to it’s target.

I have seen video as I figured everyone else had as well, that showed the tail of the plane passing the camera with the white behind it.

If the white “Fuselage” is not the plane but is indeed smoke that would explain why it is hanging around even during the explosion.

As far as the cameras around the Pentagon....

While I realize some folks are of the mind that they somehow deserve the footage from those, keep in mind this was a crime scene, and something that they were not likely to release for a variety of reasons. Keeping them hidden is not proof nor even suspicion foul-play occured.

What are the odds you'd get any confiscated film from almost any crime, that even the police had in their hands? Let alone the FBI, NSA, etc. Not having film at your disposal doesn't mean that the government is hiding something.

reply to post by fleabit


In addition, you probably need a security clearance just to view the video.

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reply to post by kyleplatinum


Could it be the plane hit at an angle and NOT straight and level, wow what a concept!!! Look at the top of the roof chard beyond the impact area. Could that have been the right side engines and wing being thrown across the roof top?

I dont know use your imagination seems to me alot of people are doing that.

reply to post by crmanager


What?! Jesus wasn't even there! What does he know?! Damn right I'd question him! I want to touch his wounds!

the first part of the video was real, the 2nd part unfortunately is fake. the 2nd part of the video was a video created for a class project for a video editing and special effects class. if you saw the unedited video of it full size, you can tell its incredibly fake, bad lighting effects.

sorry....

reply to post by fleabit


The crime scene you say - ooh - boogy men

The crime scene has played out and there is nothing left to hide as far as National Security - "hey look a plane hit the Pentagon" - that is unless a plane didn't hit the Pentagon, then you would never see that footage

Right?

[edit on 19-11-2008 by arizonascott]

reply to post by freighttrain


yes yes yes i knowww what your saying. And i full agree with what you are saying. I am saying, dont exaggerate. that is all.

reply to post by crmanager


No it wasn't, it was at ground level only until a few hours later when the fire helped to discolor the outside to the top.

There are vehicles and spools of construction wire sitting right next to the hole that were not even touched - my God!

Passion mixed with mis-spelling created this edit

[edit on 19-11-2008 by arizonascott]

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