Russian communist told me in 1992 that America's first communist president would be Black man named

We now have a Kenyan, communist, alien, antichrist, racist, Indonesian, grandmother killing president. Holy cow! These rumors have got to stop. Make arguments that are grounded in reason. This is getting ridiculous even for a conservative redneck like myself.

No reply yet to my email *DEMANDING* (lol) information on this Tom Fife guy.

Will try calling TruNews today - they're great about answering the *donate* line. (Who'd a though?)

I wish I knew my economics better in order to figure out why (if in fact it's true and that is still up for huge debate of course) anyway, why the NWO would want a Communist president.
Of course communism and the NWO go hand in hand, but still...
If there is a tiny shred of evidence to this I'd like to know why...

And if there isn't a peep of evidence at all I'd like to figure out what TruNews agenda is by posting this other than smearing slash fear mongering.


...?...

[edit on 18-11-2008 by silo13]

Originally posted by OzWeatherman
Like all good "prophecy" stories, I bet this came out after Obama was elected president right?

Sorry, not a dig at you Op...

Lol, no way he's a communist

You say that because you are a Marxist Leninist.

Your kind sticks together - supporting each other, supporting the Party...

ROFLMAO!!! This thread is so incredibly funny!! It all makes so sense now! Why didn't I see earlier that Barack is extradimensional, existing only partially on this plane! If that's the case than the would-be assassin's bullets should phase right through him!
Apparently the only way America will be saved is if Bush declares martial law and saves us from ourselves by assuming absolute power and dictatorship. ha!

I do think it's pretty funny. Sure, wait until it's totally broken to give it to the black man! And whitey is sooo scared! Calling him a marxist, a terrorist, and that he must consume baby flesh to keep himself young and powerful! Okay, admittedly I made that last one up off the top... but you don't know I could be right

Here's my spin though: This guy is IV league world-class Bilderberg material. If you think that McCain and Obama aren't cast from the same steel you are sadly mistaken. We will have to wait and see whether or not he will repeal the totally unconstitutional presidential acts that Bush put into effect, or whether he will prove to be sharing the same globalist agenda that The Bush, Cheney, and Clinton families have all been a shadowy part of. Everyone voted for the lesser of two evils, unable to distinguish which candidate had best intentions. That's exactly why I voted for Ron Paul. We need REAL change in this country.

I suppose though, all Democrat house, senate, and executive branches will get plenty done if they so choose to!!! I guess only time will tell us whether or not This mulatto from Chicago will steer us away from a firey 2012 ending or usher us into the new age with peace and grace.

In reply to silo13

Rick Wiles of Trunews is currently out of the country. He's in the Carribean, looking for land to buy. He's planning to build a
"Christian" community--a safe haven for believers to live in when they have to flee the USA. Seriously. The guy is totally serious about this. He also has a habit of posting information without credible evidence to back it up.

This guy is IV league world-class Bilderberg material. If you think that McCain and Obama aren't cast from the same steel you are sadly mistaken.

Agreed.

We will have to wait and see whether or not he will repeal the totally unconstitutional presidential acts that Bush put into effect, or whether he will prove to be sharing the same globalist agenda

It would (almost) restore my faith in the Presidency if President elect Obama DID repeal some of the complete and utter constitutional carnage perpetrated by the Bush administration.

My question though is this.

If there is a shred - even a tiny little weenie bit of truth to anything from this Tom Fife - WHY would the NWO want a president leaning to communism a/o socialism?

How would that facilitate the NWO - America regressing into something resembling communism?

Thanks for your post.




[edit on 19-11-2008 by silo13]

reply to post by silo13

How would that facilitate the NWO - America regressing into something resembling communism? "

LOL! How would it not?

You are so stupid. Here is a cartoon.




[edit on 19-11-2008 by TruthTellist]

How would that facilitate the NWO - America regressing into something resembling communism? "

LOL! How would it not?

You are so stupid.

Thank you oh wise one.

I'm glad it's so obviouse to you.

You should be out there saving the USA not on ATS.

Have a nice day.

So what if he is? The 3 ring circus that makes up the US government will keep it him check, IMHO. Sure he can make executive orders, but, those can be overturned by US courts (although that has only happened a couple of times).

I have always viewed the president as the face man of the nation. He is one third of our government.

I say, worry about congress. Get special interest groups out of the house and senate. They have no place there and disrupt the balance of governement.

reply to post by jam321


i would have put a bet in 1992 that a black man would be president in 2009 - that would have got a ` long odds `

reply to post by TruthTellist


Thanks for editing in the cute little cartoon - that really took the bite right out of your cruelty.
But hey, your words speak for themselves, cartoon or no.
Calling someone *stupid* only reflects your callousness and indolence in not taking the time to add a comment which is more informative rather than derogatory.

From Wiki I understood (or misunderstood) communism to be:

“Communism states that the only way to solve these problems is for the working class, or Proletariat, to replace the wealthy Bourgeoisie, which is currently the ruling class, in order to establish a peaceful, free society, without classes, or government.”

That surely didn’t sound NWO to me.

However, since posting this thread I’ve been reading more about communism and see that in fact it equals (?) the NWO facilitating it’s complete rule/power over the (forced) subservient.

It’s always good to learn.

Some people never will.

reply to post by silo13


Don't rely on wikipedia.

For all you know I could have just edited that particular definition and you will find it changed when you return to wiki.

Edit: Someone actually created a thread about this very subject. They archived definitions of a particular set of words on Wikipedia each week and then showed how they changed over the period of two months. Very interesting.

[edit on 20-11-2008 by TruthTellist]

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I know some of you hate Pres Elect Obama, and that is your right. However, the site you post has many references to the lie that Obama was not born in Hawaii. I would think that would have been cleared by factcheck.org (a non partisan organization that goes after both Democrat and Republican when they lie) and here is the link once more:

www.factcheck.org...

The Socialist Party candidate was on the Colbert Report and was upset that Obama was called a socialist/communist. He stated that both McCain and Obama were of the same mold, pure capitalists. (Although it can be argued that both McCain and Obama are socialists because both supported the $700 billion bailout).

reply to post by kidflash2008

I know some of you hate Pres Elect Obama,

I don't hate the guy - I really don't see any difference between him and anyone else put in the position of presidential elect.
I'm just curious truth be told.

I don't live in the States so I'm not bombarded with Obama as you all must be who do live there.

But like I said, I'm curious.

I see this man as possible being the leader of the United States - so when I see a post in TruNews (or anywhere) announcing Senator Obama is a communist, or a sympathizer, whatever, I'm interested in batting around the opinions ideas is all.

Especially since I remember Grandfather being very sure the communists would *take America from within*...

Originally posted by toasted
reply to post by OzWeatherman

 

" Lol, no way he's a communist "

Because?

Because the news would expose that like all the other truths they share with us on a regular basis? [cough,choke,puke ]

lmao

People who support the state taking from the haves and sharing it with the have-nots....is no real American.

That concept smacks of socialism/communism.

But don't let that stop you from thinking it's ridiculous, and I won't let your comments change my mind either.

It's not so bad as long as after a period of time the " have-nots" then return the favor to the haves.......Balance!!!! would make it work........we have too many lazy americans who would abuse communism . Everything is planned out for a reason. we will soon see why he was chosen.

He's not an extra dimensional being,
nor a Communist,
nor an Alien,
nor is he Islamic,
he is not the Antichrist,
he's not a Terrorist,
he is not part of the Nwo,
nor is he a Socialist.

Gosh why can't you people get rational and know that Obama is simply the Democratic President Elect




Put there as Human Hybrid Clone by the Intelligent Social Insects living inside the Earth that we call Grey's




It's a miracle we got anyone elected

I think America would be a better place if it were a Socialist-Capitalist, or as I call 'Socio-Capitalist' Government. A Democratic, Left leaning Government that had more power and oversight and control over every single Company, Corporation, or Business making sales or purchases within U.S. territory. Not to OWN all the Companies .. but just to be able to come in with the final word and say, "No, we disapprove of your profit margin being this ridiculously high. You must lower the price of your unleaded gasoline to at least X.XX a gallon to reflect the changing of your profit margin by such and such percent. This change must be effective by such and such date. Thank you for complying with National Laws and the decision of this Committee."

And the same thing goes for any other Company really getting over on people .. getting over so hard on people that while being technically legal and legit, that they're making a STEAL off the people. Just think of the last most overpriced article of clothing or overpriced software/gadget/whatever you bought and were thoroughly disappointed with. Now, should that item really cost that dang much? No way. But the critic will say, Who am I or you to say what that item is really worth and should sell for. I say we are exactly who should be making part of that decision, not the entire thing, but that our Government would actively look-out for, and stick up for, us the people by regulating such Companies.

And this is just the tip of the iceberg, the rest would deal with free EMERGENCY Healthcare .. certain other types of care that never end until the patient dies may be under a different rule or system. Prescription medicines would be cheap to fill because the Companies would not be making as big of a profit margin as they currently are, and would be forced to comply by law to the Government when the Government states that they need to decrease their price by a certain amount to reflect the cut in profit. In other words, there should be a maximum profit margin percentile in the law books that is used with buying and selling, and it should be illegal to profit beyond that percentile. The same goes for all Credit Card Companies and Banks that lend people money. Their APR's and rates would have to be cut to reflect this. Everything would become drastically cheaper for the average man.

But it won't ever happen this way, even I know this. Why? It's possible, don't let any critic tell you that the above is not possible, it is VERY POSSIBLE, there are thousands of old, rich men with billions upon billions of dollars sitting around in bank accounts, digitally aquiring dust, that means nothing more to them than status, the amounts they have are well and far beyond paying for his life expenses, his families, and the next generation of families three generations deep into the future. And it's not all tied up in Stock investments either. There's literally billions sitting in bank accounts doing nothing. Who's accounts? The people who OWN these Company and Corporations, and their TOP EXECUTIVES.

A good example is Bill Gates. or maybe Richard Garriot. Just old rich men with too much money to possibly use three times over.

These are the people who would be systematically found through national searches done by national intelligence agencies when the types of laws I'D LIKE to see pass would pass. These kinds of laws would be the ones that HEAVILY tax people who have a butt-ton of money in their name, to the point of making being a billionaire CEO something not nearly as profitable. Why let it sit just because people "earned" it through Corporate treachery? Or even if its all legit .. the point is the same.

Don't redistribute the wealth .. Force the idle wealth to MOVE .. and tax the day lights out of anyone who has more than two million in assets. Yes, that includes their house and all vehicles. No, it doesnt include boats or airplanes.

Now a super strong powerful assertive leader, the stuff that history is made with, could make something similar to this, with some of these changes being made, but it could cause uproar like you've never seen. The people who are the richest are the best connected -- they can cause a disproportionate amount of .. pain on a politician over a decision for the size of their population. A handful of men shouldn't be the ones calling the shots FOR the politicians .. lol

[edit on 11/23/2008 by runetang]

I don't think the NWO would ever intentionally implement REAL communism because REAL communism would strip them of their power and give it to the people. it would have to be some twisted perversion like democracy ended up being, a good idea that should have worked well but with lots of sneaky little tricks smuggled in to allow the rich to continue to abuse their power.

I don't claim to have perfect knowledge of the in depth details of either government but i understand that the people are simply looking for and demanding a new way to govern that protects the people from abuse and corruption and people were promised that with democracy and it never happened so i can't help but feel suspect of the promise of communism as well.

Still the game will play out the way it's meant to play out i suppose.

It seems to me all they are doing is pretending to give us what we want over and over again but just giving us the same tyranny every time. trying to keep us all busy while they build up enough power and technology to simply do whatever they want without having to trick us or distract us any more. i believe there is an important lesson in that for all of us.

His laxativity comes from a pruned based mixture his gramma used to keep her regular. Communism must be understood rather than feared. A black face makes fear that some manner of leveling of standards will happen. The real truth is by the end of 2009 "f" obama will be common place through out America. Obama has no ability to be a communist, but the statement that he is someones pawn is very true. Right or left he is politically born, thus there should be no belief in any drastic change. Notice how any plans were immediateley copied by Obama. He is some ones drone, I don't think it matters what party it was, its what they all wanted and Obama is the puppet.