Tech puts JFK conspiracy theories to rest

reply to post by ZindoDoone


I agree with you my friend. Unfortunately the only way this stuff will ever stop is if our military says no more. The men and women of the military are the only ones who can stop this or push it forward, but that takes all of them doing it. We can't stop paying taxes, cause they will send in the military. They are literally the only ones who can put an end to it all. No military, no power that simple.

Peace

reply to post by TheAgentNineteen

Iwas a real charger in my investigations and research of the JFK incident! I had gigibytes of stuff on an old computer long ago,LOL
Speaking of the grassy knoll pictures. Do you remember when they thought that Woody Harrelson's dad might have been involved in the plot. He had been convicted of killing that Federal Judge In texas and was a known hitman. They had a tip that three men that had been spotted and aprehended in a rail car near the scene. One of those men was supposedly Harrelson. Well, in that investigation it was noted that indeed there was a uniformed man on the grassy knoll that was there legitimatly for crowd control and when the first shot rang out he had pulled his nickeled service revolver and that is what caused the flash of light in the pictures. In all the confusion he left his post and was one of the men who was there at the apprehension of Harrelson and the other two men. Remarkably those three men where released and all the radio traffic about it had been drowned out by the traffic due to the assination. No recording of the audio exists but the written record did exist at the time of the other investigation. So The powers that be have reconciled the Grassy Knowl problem or so it seems!!!LOL

Zindo

Originally posted by letthereaderunderstand
reply to post by NGC2736

 

They literally slowed down right in front of Abraham Zapruder, or what about the secret service holding back as they round the corner?

Johnson was not someone to cross and Kennedy didn't take it seriously. "End Vietnam....I don't think so"

I've been there with my father in 1997. My dad is a vet. Do you know that in north vietnam at a War Memorial that a North Vietnamese General exclaims
.

General Giap was a brilliant, highly respected leader of the North Vietnam military. The following quote is from his memoirs currently found in the Vietnam war memorial in Hanoi:

"What we still don't understand is why you Americans stopped the bombing of Hanoi. You had us on the ropes. If you had pressed us a little harder, just for another day or two, we were ready to surrender! It was the same at the battles of TET. You defeated us! We knew it, and we thought you knew it.

But we were elated to notice your media was definitely helping us. They were causing more disruption in America than we could in the battlefields. We were ready to surrender. You had won!"

Peace

Circulating in various forms since the 1990s, this statement attributed to General Vo Nguyen Giap of North Vietnam is not authentic, has never been authentic, and no amount of repetition will make it so.

The quote surfaced most recently in an anonymous forwarded email (example above) composed in December 2007, days after being mentioned on Rush Limbaugh's website, which in turn cited an October 3, 2007 NewsMax.com column by Geoff Metcalf as the source. According to Metcalf, the passage came from "[Giap's] memoirs currently found in the Vietnam War memorial in Hanoi."

Uhhh... could you not spread the Giap Hoax .

Thanks

oh, and uh.... Peace.




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reply to post by undermind


Similar quotes by Giap are attributed to the Battle of Khe San as well as right after Hue during the Tet Offensive. I believe the statement is real, just that some get confused as to when and under what circumstances!

Zindo

Last year, I heard a rather remarkable death bed confession, on the radio. The confession was tape recorded to the dying mans' son. Howard Hunt admitted to being part of a CIA operation called The Big Event, aka the Kennedy Assasination. That is the modus operendi of the CIA, send in a sucker to attempt to do what they could not, commit the crime, kill that sucker(s), and then lay all blame on them, closing the investigation. The latter part never seems to work, witness the Oklahoma Bombing, 9/11, and the disappearance of a nuclear cruise missile last year. Oh yeah, no investgation on the missing nuke, just lots of dead servicemen who were involved.
The reason I do not believe the CIA was involved in the assasination of Vince Foster, is the MO was wrong.
Oh, and he claims Johnson was behind it all, on Johnsons' turf. Hey folks, we had a coup de tat! So what is happening now that our CIA murdered our own President? (Yawn.)Old news. Who cares? Was the CIA ever held to account? Just like the Catholic church over the Inquisition, and now choir boy molestations. Pretend it didn't happen, and the furor will die down.
I've witnessed something kinda similar, with the most famous Chuck Swindle, a supposed 'Christian', pastor, and a prolific author, his lying to the church, and lying to the courts, and his mistreatment of a volunteer that was badly injured while doing volunteer work at the church. Just pretend it didn't happen, and the furor will die down.
None of these evil men is getting away with anything. They will all be held to account, just not as soon as we would like.

reply to post by Gregarious


Intersting post. I recall hearing of that but not hearing IT. Wasnt on Coast to Coast was it? Anyway, the hard part is for people that do not believe in heaven or hell. We would like to see punishment happen here but I guess we are out of luck.

One shooter was on top of the Dal-Tex building, another one (not the man they called "Oswald") was on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository building, and the third shooter was "badge man" behind the concrete structure at the top of the grassy knoll.

The shooters were coordinated by walkie-talkie. The umbrella man raised his umbrella as a signal that the first shot was not fatal and more shots were needed.

After the fatal shot, "badge man" joined "the tramps" at a railroad car behind the grassy knoll picket fence area. Another fake cop joined them and all five of them paraded through Dealey Plaza and then escaped the area.

The tramps were merely visual decoys to take attention away from fake cop number 2 (bringing up the rear) who was actually "badge man".

If stopped by real cops, the lead fake cop (recruited by black ops to have a thick Dallas accent) would simply say " we found these hobos in the rail yard and we're takin' 'em in for questioning to find out if they saw anything unusual." If that didn't brush off the real cops, the lead cop would flash government agent I.D. and mutter somthing about official business, and if that didn't work, the tramps, on cue could start a ruckus and some chaos would ensue, one of the tramps would take off running down an alleyway, badge man would run after him and both would get picked up by a getaway car. Something like that.

It was all a black ops thing produced by a super-secret inside faction of CIA with massive cover-up help from Hoover and FBI.

reply to post by letthereaderunderstand


As you can see, one of the people in the frontseat is pointing a gun at JFK

As far as I'm concerned the conspiricy is more to do with why he was shot instead of how or by who.The way I see it he was going to get out of vietnam
which went against the military industrial complex and the federal reserve bank
not to mention he was going to reestablish the gold standard which would cut Rocky and his criminal cronies out entirely.In short the NWO crew needed him gone in order to proceed.

Originally posted by pooty
As far as I'm concerned the conspiricy is more to do with why he was shot instead of how or by who.The way I see it he was going to get out of vietnam
which went against the military industrial complex and the federal reserve bank
not to mention he was going to reestablish the gold standard which would cut Rocky and his criminal cronies out entirely.In short the NWO crew needed him gone in order to proceed.

You are absolutely correct when you point out that the conspiracy lies behind the crime, not in it.

However, I would like to comment to expand upon my understanding regarding your other assertions.

Our last legitimate professional military strategist who actually experienced first-hand being both a paramount Military Strategic Commander, AND President of the United States, issued the grave warning regarding the Military Industrial Complex. We had been informed, as a people, that the industry had become diseased via it's proximity to the profiteers. War is THE preferred method to amass maximum wealth for the controllers of money - and this had become evident to the President - enough so as to 'warn' us directly.

These parasites had been (are still) in a relentless attempt to drain the earnings of the citizens. They appear un-phased by the unsustainability of the practice. But would they kill a President because he threatened the continuation of the war? History demonstrates clearly that the barons of industry have no national allegiance. This fact can be seen in nearly every war. However, historically most Presidents speak against war, and posture themselves as not inclined to risk the lives of their citizens in military exploits.

Also, we already had (and still have) an active para-military political organization, the CIA, constantly poised to 'instigate' or otherwise affect international conflicts, including fomenting war, and civil unrest. The President could not effectively threaten that. Wars are easy to start, and we have not had a period in modern history where war has been absent.

However, their 'partners' in crime had a much more salient vulnerability. The ENTIRE structure upon which their power is founded is currency and the monopoly of control of inflation and interest rates. If President Kennedy had begun to issue actual non-fiat money, their control would have eventually eroded beyond usefulness. I suggest it is THEY who are behind the conspiracy. Organized Crime, Military Industrial Complex, are only tools in the International Bankers' (now masquerading as Transnational Corporatists) Triad of power.

Without the control of currency in the Unites States, their power will evaporate like the 'virtual' nothing it is. True control has to do with what you contribute to the culture, they contribute nothing, but we are manipulated into accepting that their 'money' is 'real,' as opposed to the debt it actually represents.

[edit on 15-11-2008 by Maxmars]

I find this
analysis of zapruder film
very interesting:

Ahh nice! Looks like it's the sequel to that ridiculous "Unsolved History" episode where they "debunked" JFK conspiracy theorists. Nothing to see here people, move along. Discovery channel has zero credibility left... it's only an outlet to spread government disinformation. They cherry-pick what they want to "debunk" and ignore all the hard evidence and facts.

Originally posted by Mercenary2007

[They didn't take into effect that the shot from the grassy knowl was a mercury load. which on impact explodes.

VERY good point. Mercury has amazing & strange characteristics. It does indeed explode. It must be used similar to a sabot shot [to contain the liquid], but on impact, it is so heavy & unstable that all tissue is obliterated. Similar to what a Sabot Round shot from one tank into another. It liquifies everything inside. And I do mean...Everything. I've seen it on the battlefields in Iraq, Desert Storm. Rather a mess, actually. I really never thought of it until you brought this up. JFK's brain was never in his head after the body was released from Bethesda Naval Hospital. Either the brain was evacuated on impact and/or what residue remained inside the cranium was carefully scraped & removed.

The book, "The Day of the Jackal," & movie starring Robert Foxx, by the same name, was an all time big seller/classic. The assassin utilized the same type projectile. Mercury has a devastating effect beyond the wildest imagination.

One book found in most libraries, "The Best Evidence," has some great theories also.

Interesting food for thought from you Mercenary2007! Thanks. Star for you.

DREAM U 1 2...

Originally posted by DavidU
Ahh nice! Looks like it's the sequel to that ridiculous "Unsolved History" episode where they "debunked" JFK conspiracy theorists. Nothing to see here people, move along. Discovery channel has zero credibility left... it's only an outlet to spread government disinformation. They cherry-pick what they want to "debunk" and ignore all the hard evidence and facts.

Thanks, I tried saying all that already but it was either argued with no backup or blown off. I am glad I am not the only one that can see just how 'trustworthy' they are. I forget is it "Man Vs. Wild" or "Survivorman" where they just happen to leave out the sleeping in hotels and eating warm fresh meals parts.

reply to post by NGC2736


Something I thought while reading your post: if the car was moving away from the shooter it wouldn't be more difficult to see the target?

I think that the best would be for the target to be moving in the direction of the shooter.

PS: I do not have any real experience with guns, so my thinking could be terribly wrong.

reply to post by ArMaP

Please watch the video Donsomething posted above. It may not be real but it is a pretty convincing argument for the car slowing way down for the kill shot(s) to be easier to make/coordinate.

Originally posted by angel of lightangelo
Please watch the video Donsomething posted above. It may not be real but it is a pretty convincing argument for the car slowing way down for the kill shot(s) to be easier to make/coordinate.

Or an "inertia" activated gun concealed within the motorcade?????

Brake....BANG!

AND even if the "killshot" was proven to come from the depository window, it doesn't mean it was Oswald does it?

reply to post by angel of lightangelo


The car slowing, if true and a planned action, would indicate that this area was the planned kill zone, and not the area around the book depository, IMO.

reply to post by angel of lightangelo


Totally agree, Discovery Chanel or ANY chanel owned by the corps should be looked at with complete suspicion.

The fact all videos of the assassination show his head bucking backward and to the left pretty much sums up the ONLY possible angle of the bullet could have come from.

That would be to the front not the depository as your leaders have told you.

It's a shame this JFK still has not been put to sleep, it is so damn obvious.

What hope do other real time government conspiracies have been exposed as long as the sheep are still asleep over this?

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