Moon Base Buildings-- Fact or Fiction?

Ive heard contrasting views that we have built structures on both the Moon and even Mars. Ive also heard that when Humans first arrived on the moon, there were already structures built.

Now as above these are two completly different views, and when you take the general populations views that there is nothing on the moon it brings in a 3rd party.

There are some great videos on YOUTUBE etc....that try to enhance pictures and videos to show "proof".

Im wondering what you guys think. Watch the videos (part 2 will be avail to chose at the end of part 1) Im on the fence but there is some awesome evidence which is hard to deny.

So lets ask ourselves if there are actually structures on the moon/mars who built them? If built by NASA then whats the reason for it?

HERES THE LINK

uk.youtube.com...

I enjoyed those videos

I've always been fascinated by this subject here is another good one I don't care for the intro but still makes one think

Good post

nice vid

thanks for posting



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Well, fact is that there have been a few whistleblowers who claim that we have bases known as the "Luna Base", and the "Aries Base", not sure about the Aries base. From William Cooper, to some from the disclosure project (frmr Sgt. Wolf) we have information that claims that we've been operating bases there since the sixties (not sure about that either)! They are joint Russian, US, and ET bases ,some of the structures have been reported to be almost half a mile tall. And as for proving all of these unsubstantiated rumors, only one way, go there, and knock on the door.

cool vid too. apparently its all happening on the back of the moon!! Shame we cant send someone up there lol

it is a shame, someday though - prolly not in our lifetime. will joe public be able to traverse the lunar fields? . who knows ??

Have you ever been too "Kings Crater"? semi-rhetorical question . seems to be a busy location...check her out...



Check out the "vehicle" I have circled on your bottom right - its often referred to as a bucketloader.

There seems to be one in Tycho Crater as well.....






www.thelivingmoon.com...

(my apologies, cant find a link for tycho at the moment)

Structures on the moon from the 1960's. This has been discussed to death here on ATS. A) If there were to be a moonbase on the Far side of the moon, it would be toen appart within no time due to the massive amounts of bombardment that it recieves from asteroids and such. Also it gets so incredibly cold up there that if they were to keep a manned patrol up there they would be frozen to death in no time. All you have to do is listen to the voice comunications from astronauts on space walks to understand this. And even if you were to get past the bombardments and the cold of space, you would continually have to send supplies to them. One other item of concern is that you state they have been up there since the 60's. Have you taken a good look at the equipment used in the 60's to send men to the moon, we are lucky they survived the trip there and back, I could only guess what a building built with the same matrials and technology would look like.

As for previous structures on the moon, so far all of the photos that have shown structures thus far have either been proven to be either JPG anomalies, fakes or the combination of the two.

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I think people see want they want to. Most likely this is a natural formation but this is what I see.


A man with his arm up.

Originally posted by AlienCarnage
Structures on the moon from the 1960's. This has been discussed to death here on ATS...........................

Sooooo we're not allowed to discuss it???

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I am not saying it should not be discussed, but why open a new thread instead of adding to the existing ones.

Originally posted by AlienCarnage
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I am not saying it should not be discussed, but why open a new thread instead of adding to the existing ones.

Just my opinion here, but there are many newer members here. And regardless if they do search or not they have the right to start a thread about a subject that pertains to their interest.

I agree they could contribute to the older threads but if one wishes to aquire points are they going to achieve that by "just contributing" to anothers thread? Thats a point a post. Theres no fun in that. There are so many subjects at ATS its about at the point where someone will always say "been discussed". Give Daxman his day and and let the man have his thread in regards to structures on the moon.

peace.

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I'd like to weigh in on this quickly.

I personally believe there is something there. I seriously doubt that we have anything there. They are alien in my opinion.

Supporting data:

1) Like any intel analysis you look for consistencies. There are a myriad of different stories from different people. The truth and validity of all these stories is obviously questionable and should be looked at with healthy skepticism and an open mind. Similar to an accident scene...witnesses see things differently and have varying accounts of the accidents. The investigators job is to pick out the consistencies between the stories. The consistency here is that "something is there".

2) There are so many facts about the moon that are extremely interesting:

a) People have been observing and recording strange lights and events on the moon for hundreds of years.

b) The moon has been dated to be about a billion years older that the Earth. Astronomy asserts that this is impossible. Moons usually form with their planets. Occasionally, small moons may be captured in the gravity field of large planets and maintain orbit. Since our moon is so large relative to the Earths mass, this cannot be the case.

c) The moon is likely hollow. We have seismic recorders in various places on the surface. In many occasions, the data from these sensors recorded hour long reverberations (like a bell) after lunar impacts. One of many such impacts came from the ejected boosters of Earth origin spacecraft. Astronomy states that moons formed naturally (on average) cannot be hollow.

d) Remote viewers, including the most famous ones I.Swann and J.Mcmoneagle, have viewed structures on both the Moon and Mars. The rigidly-scientific method used in true remote viewing produced data cannot be ignored. Neither can the success rate of the viewers themselves. The government funded the program for 20 years with RIGID oversight that was success oriented. Anyone in government contracting knows that you have to produce compelling results through bi-annual or even quarterly oversight committees.

e) The rocks on the surface of the moon have been tested and were found not only to be older, but also more dense than the mass found below. This usually suggests a digging program of some sort.

f) Since the early days, we have known that there are ‘spots of mass’ on the moon that must be compensated for by orbiting spacecraft. There are a few circular shaped objects under the surface of the moon that have significant enough mass that can cause spacecraft to degrade orbit unless compensated for. Early Russian and American lunar satellites were adjusted for this anomaly. In fact, these structures nearly caused a cease in lunar missions due to the cost of failed missions for uncompensated craft. This was before they realized the problem.

g) I forget the exact date, but our lunar instruments on the surface detected a storm of water hundreds of kilometers long lasting hours. This is pretty big news when considering that the moon is not supposed to contain an atmosphere or water.

h) finally we have the anomalous orbit of the moon and it’s odd rotational axis. The dark side NEVER faces the Earth. When considering that the formation and rotation of moons in nature is apparently random, this is a very odd case. Consider that the moon orbits the Earth, and the moon also spins on an axis. The moons rotational speed exactly matches the orbital speed so that one side of the moon never faces its mother planet.

Considering this data (and there is much more) one has to come to the conclusion that it is not ‘just a moon’. It’s not just an uninteresting rock full of space dust. It is indeed VERY INTERESTING. Lastly, I believe there are no coincidences.


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Unfortunately the only people who know about a moon base would be the astronauts and mission control. Unless one of them is willing to come forward and provide unequivocal proof we are really stuck. Until then I guess all we can do is continue to look at blurry images of “bases”, “towers”, and “domes.”

and dont forget pyramids



www.holloworbs.com...

aliencarnage...........you seem to be on your high horse slightly. I am a fairly new member so i apologise for starting a thread that has already been discussed.

By starting it i hoped to alert newer members to it and see if they have anything interesting to add to the fold.

I only found out about possible structures through Youtube not through ATS so i hope ive enlightened some new people to the topic.

As for your views fair enough, im not saying they are true or false. But i detect a slight tone in your post which is not too nice. Remember you were new on here once

Daxman,

You seem wise enough to realize these guys are everwhere. And everyone is touchy sometimes. Hopefully you don't take too much personal. I hope everyone can easliy have a voice here, historical thread or not.

FYI, Jim Marrs had a recent post addressing this. New posts in old threads very often get overlooked. His suggestion is to just start a new thread. I find this is the best way to start a new or old discussion.

Blurry old images that back in the day were suppose to be all that.

What happened to the HD Japanese lunar images I've seen only a hand full here and there wheres the beef?

Originally posted by SLAYER69
Blurry old images that back in the day were suppose to be all that.

What happened to the HD Japanese lunar images I've seen only a hand full here and there wheres the beef?

I found this while trying to relocate my link for my Tycho pic. I cant tell if the pics are rendered or not tho. They almost have the same feel as the ESA Mars photos....

mydarksky.org...

Here is another interesting point.... our own lunar landing missions had high def cameras and clolr ones. Where are all those pictures???

Also, have you any idea the amount of data and photographs that NASA has supposedly lost? Massive amounts of Apollo data, important American history simply misplaced or distroyed. There is no lunar conspiracy > Yeah right.

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Thanks for the link

I've seen those before but you would think with all that has been posted and going around on the web that somebody in japan would zoom in on some of the locations in question if anything to dispel all the Alien base stuff