Follow-up story: Mombasa Imam who confirmed Obama's birth place arrives in the UK

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All members of the democrat congress have said that the Constitution is just a "G-- D---" piece of paper. "

Is that true, you ask?

Really depends on whether you think that they are capable of saying something like that, even off the record.

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Not sure what you are getting at. Was that a sarcastic attempt? It was okay. I rate it a 7 out 10 on the sarcastic scale of jerkishness. I'm pretty good at being sarcastic, so you better be careful.

Also, watch out, sarcasm can be difficult to read through words. Someone might come in, read your text, think it's true, and then prove my point valid.

Originally posted by nunya13


#1 API is full of baloney

yeah, and so is Obama

#2 Drfractal linking to whatreallyhappened.com where they have evidence of a microfish copy of the Hawaiin newspaper announcing the birth of Barack Obama where they need a copy of the birth certificate in order to even print it. As I have said before, it would be a pretty extensive and incredible conspiracy for people to have been in on this since the day he was born. All this would have to be based on the idea that they all knew he was going to run for president one day.

Apparently not, and as proven by the Grand Obama, himself, all one needs to do is mention where they were born and most people just assume it to be something, already checked out so unlikely that no one really cares to scrutinize this kind of issue. If anyone does say anything just deny them a glance at it and put up a lot of smoke and mirrors and ipso facto! It's that easy to pull off.

#3 The Supreme court judge is NOT requiring Obama to cough up the certificate as there is absolutely no evidence what so ever to back up the claim that he is not a natural born citizen.

Yes their is

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Originally posted by MAINTAL

Yes their is

[edit on 13-11-2008 by MAINTAL]

Where is the proof that the supreme court is demanding anything? I have not seen anything from the supreme court about this. Care to share? Just wondering if you have any proof that indeed, yes there is?

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That's because MAINTAL believes it is not his responsibility to ever provide evidence. If anything, he will ask you to prove that the Supreme Court has not demanded anything. Then, he'll tell you that you are looking foolish for not disproving a theory that he never supported.

It can get quite comical.

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It will be interesting, after christmas when earnings reports come in. All the major losses in just about every sector yet Glock, Smith & Wesson, Remington & Libby / Heinz & anyone selling canned beans post record profits!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by Irish M1ck
reply to post by Jenna

 

Honestly, I don't need your confirmation on that. I know it's almost certainly mudslinging, and that's why I posted it. Personally, I don't need people who base facts off of other miscellaneous biased sites, and then spread that information around as fact, to justify my actions.

Yes, this site is complete garbage. Want to know another site that is complete crap?

Obamacrimes.com

But you people keep posting it up on here, quoting it, and accepting it as truth, when every other piece of evidence is screaming at you that it isn't true. So, thanks for your backing, but no thanks.

It is truth homicide and I would love it to see you refute it. You don't know nothing about obama son, and while you go on defending his honor, their is so much you don't know and so much more you simply refuse to even look at, even when it would behoove you to put down your torch and consider what kind of person do you really think he is? Some paragon of virtue? Obama is a sleaze merchant mick, who was the wrong guy at the right time and within six months, you will see we went from the Decider, to the Divider.

Is this all you are about? Bum Rap websites that don't agree with you, DEMAND proof that discussions took place, or else you will ,, I don't know make a public service announcement that someone speaking extemporaneously comes up with an opinion off the cuff and there you are like the militant obama truth squad, castigating them with a passion like religious zealotry not unlike an evangelist fundamentalist hell fire brim stone born again southern baptist preacher about to have the big one from a life of binging on pork rind's and trans fat cholesterol.

Ill bet you most of those items on the Obama laundry list of lies are in fact true. Not that it would change your blind devotion to this man an iota but it may humble you to find out that Obama is NOT the Messiah nor is he even a stand up kind of guy I would think cares one bit about you or anyone else. He just cares about fulfilling his destiny, the idea you get when you read his memoirs, book and those books he has said were his favorites. Why is it more and more I see people like yourself standing up for this guy. not that it is a bad thing but that I keep seeing a distinct commonality with you people one that I find curious and sincerely wanted to get your take on it since I have discovered it fits YOU too.

Can you explain to me why I might be seeing so many militant Obama supporters also seem to be bashing capitalism as I have seen you do now while supporting socialism.

Would there be a connection there? seems to be an awefull lot of that talks going on among you Obamalists .

I think people really need to take a step back out of their delusional fairy worlds where no one has bad intentions and realise that "if" this is proven, the fact would be that he LIED to hundres of millions of Americans to gain control of their Country.

If someone is going to lie about where they were born, can you really believe anything they say?

For all you know he could be a radical muslim terrorist who's purpose for years has been to try and get in control of the Country. If I were to want to take the states out, I sure as hell wouldn't go on a suicide mission with guns blazing... I'd sneak in the back and destroy you from the inside.

Perhaps by forming a civilian national security force just as powerful and well funded as the military. Then I'd try to stir up some racial hatred by forcing mandatory slave labor on white students while giving the blacks a way out by claiming it brings back bad memories. I might even try to take peoples retirment savings and then some day only give them only what they need while taking their excess and giving it to the blacks who never bothered thinking ahead. I might even begin having meetings with the children of known terrorists just ot rub it in your faces.

Eventually people would start fighting and I'd just sit back and enjoy the civil war.


Or I'd just sit on the internet and read about how someone else does it...

Originally posted by angel of lightangelo

Originally posted by MAINTAL

Yes their is

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Where is the proof that the supreme court is demanding anything? I have not seen anything from the supreme court about this. Care to share? Just wondering if you have any proof that indeed, yes there is?

If I was talking to the part of your post having to do with the supreme court, I wouldn't have said, "yes there is" I would have said "yes THEY have" now seeing that you have a problem with that part of my post where I have said, "yes there is" ,, it is to this part of YOUR post it is referring to

"there is absolutely no evidence what so ever to back up the claim that he is not a natural born citizen.

and again I say , Yes there is.

Now I have to come up with only two reasons you could have possibly made such an error when it is so obvious what it was I am talking about.

1) reading skills need some help

2) Opportunist to create some straw man argument while poking fun at me for being so out of the loop on the latest SCOTUS Scuttlebutt.

I figure it is most likely number two. because 1 I see you CAN read better than you can argue. Although I must admit some brushing up on both of those skills is never without an immediate noticeable improvement



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You suffer from diarrhea of the mouth.

Originally posted by Irish M1ck


You suffer from diarrhea of the mouth.

Awe don't mind Mick everyone, he really is a good bird, he just says stuff like this when he doesn't have anything substantive to say but,,

still has to say something.

childish or not

I believe The Obama was born in Kenya. I also believe the "Imam" story is a complete fabrication.

Consider: if I wanted you to discount a story immediately upon hearing it, I would flood you with false leads on that same story, which led nowhere, until I got a "yawn" response every time that particular story was introduced. After a while, no one would listen anymore, even if the "true" story cropped up. Sort of a play on "The Boy Who Cried Wolf"

Now, when this story first cropped up, a CoLB magically showed up on the internet at kos. within hours of its appearance, it was shredded by qualified document examiners as a forgery. To make matters worse, the knothead that they got to forge it posted a copy of the BLANK certificate on another website 2 hours BEFORE the CoLB appeared on kos. No doubt in my mind about that, I have copies of both, and they bear a distinctive smudge that is identical on both.

Fast forward a couple of months, and after a visit by The Obama to HI, everything is sealed up tighter than a drum, and yet ANOTHER CoLB shows up at campaign headquarters, along with an invitation to a particular "impartial" party to examine it, but the invitation extends to no one else. Right on cue, they post photographs ( not scans) of the new and improved CoLB on the net, and sure enough this one has the disputed seal stamped on it. I have those photographs as well.

But the story just won't die a natural death. What to do? Fire up the dizinformatziyy machine. That's Russian, and it means just what it sounds like. They pretty well perfected the concept. So now we've got federal lawsuits and judges knockin' 'em down left and right. Still, it won't lay down quietly. What next? I know! how about getting an African to poke it some more! Direct to you, from the land of e-mail scams where the president always has 10,000,000 dollars that he NEEDS you to deposit into your bank account for safekeeping, and will let you keep 20% of it for your trouble!

What next? well, I'm guessing that the final forged birth certificate ( NOT a CoLB this time - a CoLB and 1.29 will get you a large coffee at McDonalds ) is already done, the ink is dry, and it's been vetted by The Obama's own document experts, in an effort to detect any flaws. Why not release it into the wild, then? Well, he's painted himself into a corner. If he just throws it out, "Oh, alright, HERE it is!" the question becomes "why did it take so long? and why did you stonewall so hard, just to throw it out like that NOW?"

he's got to let the courts appear to "force" it out of him, with something like "well, I just don't give personal information like that out". Then the story grows weak and dies, much ado about nothing. Any further rumbles fall into the disinformation mill and are ground to dust, and your new king is coronated.

End of story.

nenothtu out.

Oh, and I forgot to mention that The Obama's campaign website got the copy THEY posted from kos. it's the same forgery, with the same smudge, but in lower resolution. Now why, I ask, would The Obama rely on a blogger to find his own birth certificate? Interestingly, the timestamps show that kos had it first. What a scoop!

nenothtu out

Originally posted by nenothtu

he's got to let the courts appear to "force" it out of him, with something like "well, I just don't give personal information like that out". Then the story grows weak and dies, much ado about nothing. Any further rumbles fall into the disinformation mill and are ground to dust, and your new king is coronated.

End of story.

nenothtu out.

Very astute observations you have posted here and very well thought out too. I don't think the reason you give for why he didn't show it being it was personal information would really count. The vaulted BC will have all the same information save for some unknown but by and large should be the same as the info already furnished in the fake one.

So what difference would it have made

Originally posted by angel of lightangelo

Originally posted by jd140


Mind you I don't buy into this, I just don't see why he doesn't sign a release of information and have his original BC displayed where anyone who wants to see it can.

I want to see your Birth Cerificate. Not a copy. That means not a digital representation. I demand that you come to where I live and provide me with your original BC.

I just do not see why people do not just give in to my demands. I may have no right to demand such, nor does it matter to the people who would really care about this stuff, but I said it and damnit, is that not enough anymore?

I will be waiting. Please arrive by morning with your original BC.

Or you could just admit that it is possible that he already jumped through all the hoops the he had to and everything else is now just crazy people demanding things they have no right to.

I am not wanting to be President now am I? You might be able to find it online if you really want to see it though. I had to show my original when I joined the military. They asked for the original or a signed certified copy.

Certified means having a raised seal stamped and a signature on it. How is his a signed certified copy when there isn't a signature or stamp on it?

I'm with both sides here. I don't have any reason to think he wasn't born in Hawaii, but why didn't he just go okay here is my BC when the lawsuit first came to light? It would be fairly easy to do. All he had to do when he was in Hawaii was sign a release of info and it would have been released to whomever he signed the release to.

The avoidance of this issue is what everyone has an issue with. Why would he ignore it and let it go this far?

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Why do you ignore that the State Department of Hawaii has already viewed his original birth certificate? Why is that not enough?

Who else needs to see it for you to be happy? Not only did they verify that they have it, but they basically did an entire investigation based off of the wild theories that were circulating around at the time.

If that didn't appease you, nothing will. Perhaps you should look into the Salem Witch Trials, because your on a witch hunt right now.

Originally posted by Irish M1ck
reply to post by jd140

 

Why do you ignore that the State Department of Hawaii has already viewed his original birth certificate? Why is that not enough?

Who else needs to see it for you to be happy? Not only did they verify that they have it, but they basically did an entire investigation based off of the wild theories that were circulating around at the time.

If that didn't appease you, nothing will. Perhaps you should look into the Salem Witch Trials, because your on a witch hunt right now.

It is simple MICK and for the UMTEENTH TIME!

WE ALREADY KNOW HE WAS BORN!

we want to know WHAT IT SAYS on the vaulted BC as to the LOCATION actual birth took place! We can read what the DOH said and basically it is just this,, "Yeah we now have a vaulted BC recorded in our files and that yes I am here to say that such a document exists"

Whoopie!

Like all those other times we have asked this for months now NOTHING has changed and when they asked to know what it said about the location he was born THAT is when fukino had nothing further to say and THAT is why we are still here and THAT IS WHAT OBAMA IS HIDING!

It's academic mick but for some reason, this same issue this same question keeps getting lost with answers given to questions WE NEVER ASKED! Or all the extra steps taken to placate us but ONLY the ONE WE want will do that. The most simple one, the most accurate and the most logical thing to do THEY SIMPLY WON'T . Only someone who was born where the grandmother said he was born, would have a reason to hide his past and like most of Obama's past, it is shrouded in secrecy and sealed from the public, or brushed off as the politics of distraction when it happens to give us a real good idea that we have another Rogue President on our hands, only this one is dangerous, this one is intelligent

The DOH? All that was is just more of the same barry obama bluff stuff we have been so accustomed to seeing from this con man





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Again...
Do you all have no faith in the abilities of the current administration??

Do you think Bush and Rove are so incompetent as to have let this information that is seemingly so apparent to some of you, slip totally by them??

John McCain even openly stated that Obama is an American citizen......

If all the above are so totally in the dark on this matter, why would you want to trust them with running the country?

Originally posted by frayed1
Again...
Do you all have no faith in the abilities of the current administration??

Do you think Bush and Rove are so incompetent as to have let this information that is seemingly so apparent to some of you, slip totally by them??

John McCain even openly stated that Obama is an American citizen......

If all the above are so totally in the dark on this matter, why would you want to trust them with running the country?

John McCain never saw his vaulted BC and as far as all the rest of those people you are talking about,, do you know why none of them have come forward to tell us what that vaulted BC says about the location of Obama's birth? Any Idea? any at all? Well Ill tell you why.

Because THEY HAVEN'T SEEN IT EITHER

[edit on 14-11-2008 by MAINTAL]

Originally posted by MAINTAL

John McCain never saw his vaulted BC and as far as all the rest of those people you are talking about,, do you know why none of them have come forward to tell us what that vaulted BC says about the location of Obama's birth? Any Idea? any at all? Well Ill tell you why.

Because THEY HAVEN'T SEEN IT EITHER

[edit on 14-11-2008 by MAINTAL]

So you know president Bush personally? And he has confided in you about not seeing the BC?? And Rove as well? So why haven't they seen it??