SCOTUS petitioned for writ certiorari in Obama citizenship case, Obama to respond by Dec 1

Originally posted by beforetimeshe flat says she was there at his birth in kenya!!!

Why would his mother go to Kenya, a third world country, to give birth to her son?

reply to post by doctorvette


Look I’m a Democrat and I voted for Obama. However, I would like to know for sure that without a doubt that he is natural born. It’s a matter of our constitutional rights and it’s not just related to partisan bickering. This is a valid request and he should have come out with it as soon as he was asked. But why didn't he??? I would like to know...

reply to post by ClintK


well..let me put it this way.

Your proof he is legal..oh website's that endorse obama.

VS his real grandma that says he was flat born there in Kenya.

Give me one good reason why his grandma would Lie on her grandson?
Just one.....

I can give 500 reasons why people would cover up the fact obama was.

So her word is trust worthy.
Any judge will see that...she has no motive to get her grandson threw out of president elect.
and thus she must be telling the truth..

reply to post by ClintK


Thanks for the factchecker links. Common sense dictates that Obama would have been stuck at the starting gate if he were not birthed on American soil. My understanding of the vetting he would recieve in a very competative primary gave me the freedom of mind to not have to follow such controvercy.

Originally posted by difsjf
I personally don't think it matters if he was born here or not.
It doesn't change his ability to lead.
And it's not like if he was born in Kenya that that means he was there for a long time, no, he grew up in America so he is an American at heart.
I don't understand why anyone would be so worried "Oh, is he legal??"
It has nothing to do with if he's legal.
It has to do with if he can LEAD, and I believe he can.

Wrong. It shows he's willing to LIE to get what he wants by producing a forged copy of a birth certificate that says he was born somewhere he wasn't.

You know I am really shocked about how little people know about Obama's life, STILL,

The day after the election when I told my husband about Kenya, he had no knowledge of this aspect of Obama's life at all,

I am going outside now, my house is made of brick, and the walls are perfect for head banging.

help me god!

Directly replying to the OP.

Whether it's true that he's a legit citizen or not, Obama's people should have a long time ago prove his legitimacy.

Now the whole excuse "Too busy." "Ridiculous, not responding" is plain ol' ridiculous. How hard is it to show the paper, hm?

Time will tell.

The exciting times we live in

reply to post by Simulacra


Whether President Elect Obama was born in America was never a huge issue to me although I did find it interesting that neither Obama or McCain were born on the Mainland of America, as McCain was born in Panama and Obama is saying he was born in Hawaii.

These are the first men in the history of the Presidency that I am able to find who could not at least brag that they were born on this continent and I consider Obama and McCain's birthplaces to be ominous at best in light of the threat to this Republic by the New World Order, of which both McCain and Obama are supporters.

This all having been said, I like Obama's personality just fine and his wife too but the man is not an American with his feet planted deep in Amweerica and what America is about, he his a globe trotter, a man of the world having a significant portion of his life lived with, if not as, as Muslim in a foreign country Obama lived in Indonesia as a child, from 1967 to 1971, with his mother and stepfather and has acknowledged attending a Muslim school, but an aide said it was not a madrassa. (Watch video of Obama's school Video) www.cnn.com...#/video/world/2007/01/22/vause.obama.school.cnn

I am certain Obama is a champion of the New World Order, that he will continue the policies and plans of Bush and those with them. I am certain he will support the federal Reserve and World Bank; that they will crash our dollar and force us to a new currency that will also require the new federal ID. That Obama will aggressively push to disarm Americans, particularly in the cities where only the law abiding peoples will give up their guns and only the gangs and criminals will be armed and the fights that follow will be the further justification the government needs to press Marshal Law upon first hot areas and then most everywhere. They will starve most of you into submission...you will sell your children's future for a tank of gas. All of you dweebs will be arrested and processed into bad traitors to find and report the others. Spies and wannabe spies will be everywhere, like there are here and now.

But the new World Order has many enemies; not just the American People and once what is obvious to few will become obvious to everyone and then the real fight will begin and the the corrupt, the traitor, the betrayer and collaborators will be overthrown. But first, much bad is to come; we have many sins on our hands, many innocent we did nothing to protect and avenge. Remember JFK and RFK, and Martin Luther King, Oklahoma, Waco, Ruby Ridge, 9-11, Iraq... the list is so long.

Whether or not Obama is an American will be proven by how he treats our Constitution and Bill Of Rights.

I'd rather have a capable president than a dumb redneck born in the U.S.

Originally posted by die_another_day
I'd rather have a capable president than a dumb redneck born in the U.S.

Mccain and Bush are not rednecks and Obama's capability has not been proven yet.

reply to post by Stormdancer777


How about this..You prove he was born anywhere else but the U.S.

You have proof within your own thread that he was Born in Hawaii.

You are wrong in your statement that the posters on this thread are uninformed as to Obama's life. Personally I choose not to follow the hobb goblins of closed minds but instead see the facts in front of me whether I like them or not.

Originally posted by beforetime
reply to post by ClintK

 

well..let me put it this way.

Your proof he is legal..oh website's that endorse obama.

Uh, factcheck.org does not endorse Obama. They are non-partisan and have articles critical of people and political factions from both sides of the aisle. You obviously made absolutely no effort to even check them out.

Originally posted by beforetime
VS his real grandma that says he was flat born there in Kenya.

Give me one good reason why his grandma would Lie on her grandson?
Just one.....

For the prestige locally.

Because like many old people she misremembers things.

But it is quite clear you have an excessively LOW standard of evidence and you want to cling to it. A legal document, verified by the state, is less credible, in your world, than an old lady in Kenya who you know nothing about.

The idea that Obama's mother would travel to Kenya to have a baby there defies logic.

Originally posted by die_another_day
I'd rather have a capable president than a dumb redneck born in the U.S.

I would rather have an honest, dumb redneck as president than a proven liar who can make a good speech. One would always do the right thing for the country. The other would always do the right thing for himself.

reply to post by die_another_day


Good one die-another-day. Thank the heavens though that we have intelligent, diverse and empathetic people born in the U.S that are capable of leading us out of this dark period that the facist led us into.

lol wow .. this is very interesting .. if he was so legit with his certificate then it wouldnt matter .. but this lag is making me think otherwise ...

it wouldnt matter tho much , the gov't could always 'remake' one for him
;]

reply to post by die_another_day


Well now what'd you have to go and insult the rednecks for? I'd be willing to say there are more than a few rednecks who would be offended to have Bush called a redneck if only because it makes them look bad.

Originally posted by Witness2008
reply to post by Stormdancer777

 

How about this..You prove he was born anywhere else but the U.S.

You have proof within your own thread that he was Born in Hawaii.

You are wrong in your statement that the posters on this thread are uninformed as to Obama's life. Personally I choose not to follow the hobb goblins of closed minds but instead see the facts in front of me whether I like them or not.

Did I say posters on this thread?

I specifically said my husband.

I don't know what the truth is, as of yet, I still don't know,

WHO OBAMA REALLY IS.

i AM STILL DIGGING AND WAITING FOR FACTS

oops sorry caps

reply to post by ClintK


fastcheck is...basically bought and paid for .
www.abovetopsecret.com...
en.wikipedia.org...

At a meeting with Simmons and Patricia Albjerg Graham, Deborah Leff suggested that Barack Obama would make a good board chairman.[37] After meeting and being impressed by Obama, Graham told Obama that she wanted him to be chairman of the Board of Directors.[37] Obama said that he would agree to serve as chairman if Graham would be vice chairman, to which Graham agreed.[37]

as you can see obama served as chairman.

i don't see why you keep using fastcheck.org.
texasdarlin.wordpress.com...

Factcheck.org has a conflict of interest in covering Barack Obama because they are owned by The Annenberg Foundation.

you are clinging to fact's that VERY VERY well could be planted .
Remember folks this is a conspiracy site...
Not obama is allways right site. or always wrong..
AND fastcheck.org is not god.

reply to post by ClintK


Factcheck is anything BUT impartial, Its run by the Annenberg foundation. A group that has been in the pockets of George Soros along with DailyKos. He is the 'behind the scene' financial purse for both of these Orgs. Compare factcheck's lies on guncontrol and the out of context statements made during the election some time, You might change your mind on how valid their 'FACTS' are!

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