*Must Read* (Real Video Proof), Planet X, Nibiru! Good News...

Originally posted by Tgautier13
reply to post by prevenge

 

Hmm... I would have to say we don't 'feel' Saturn and Jupiter's presence per se, but our lives are affected by them. What would happen if Jupiter and Saturn were yanked from our Solar System? I would have to say our rotation around the Sun would be thrown completely out of whack, as their own magnetic pull and rotation is crucial to our own, just as our moon's rotation is relative to our tides. If a comet the size of what the OP's message describes did pass through our Solar System, science would tell us its own magnetic pull would affect our life and environment catastrophically; hence 'feeling' it. Yet here we are with at least some kind of video evidence (not proof) that an object did indeed pass through our Solar System. The question is then how did it do this relatively undetected, and how were we not affected? Nassim himself stated in the video he does not know.

magnetic pull?
do you mean gravitational?

what if it doesn't have a magnetic field, like many planets do not.

what if it came through so gradually, that it didn't affect anything or change anything.

what if it's an integral part of our solar system, and much like everythign else, it works like clockwork, because of millions of years of wear and tear, the "groves" have been worn in.. meaning every major body has it's "trough" layed out for itself.. it's "channel" through which it works.. and those intersections in time, in recurring times... these positions of interference when one body affects others, have already been "worn in"...

meaning that if this thing is in and out of our system so often, that the system we're in adapts to it.. and eventually nothing catastrophic comes in.. and matter is organized to "expect" it's arrival .. well not really.. but what i mean is that it's been in this "path" so many times before.. that it has nothing else to interfere with..
the time of unexpected collisions or swaying of already defined orbital paths have been already dealt with, and there's nothing "more to happen"...

take Pan for example.
a satellite of saturn.
it exists between two of the major sections of Saturn's rings.
It maybe started off small.. but created a bulge large enough to move through the rings and collect everythign in it's path.
now it has a nice clear path through the rings where very little in it's path causes it to divert... and it causes very little if any diversion of other major bodies..
it may have at one point.. but now that it's reached it's capacity.. swept up as much as possible within the orbit it's allowed..
so that now, it just goes on through without issue.

imagine a large body coming through, that has the least often intersection with other planets, yet still has come and gone sooo many times.. so many cycles... that it's as stable as any other planet, and the other planets are just as stable as any, because they've passed through each other and adjusted here and there... and eventually the proper balance was found .. that just.. worked.. and thats where it remained.

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Originally posted by prevenge

Originally posted by Tgautier13
reply to post by prevenge

 

Hmm... I would have to say we don't 'feel' Saturn and Jupiter's presence per se, but our lives are affected by them. What would happen if Jupiter and Saturn were yanked from our Solar System? I would have to say our rotation around the Sun would be thrown completely out of whack, as their own magnetic pull and rotation is crucial to our own, just as our moon's rotation is relative to our tides. If a comet the size of what the OP's message describes did pass through our Solar System, science would tell us its own magnetic pull would affect our life and environment catastrophically; hence 'feeling' it. Yet here we are with at least some kind of video evidence (not proof) that an object did indeed pass through our Solar System. The question is then how did it do this relatively undetected, and how were we not affected? Nassim himself stated in the video he does not know.

magnetic pull?
do you mean gravitational?

what if it doesn't have a magnetic field, like many planets do not.

what if it came through so gradually, that it didn't affect anything or change anything.

what if it's an integral part of our solar system, and much like everythign else, it works like clockwork, because of millions of years of wear and tear, the "groves" have been worn in.. meaning every major body has it's "trough" layed out for itself.. it's "channel" through which it works.. and those intersections in time, in recurring times... these positions of interference when one body affects others, have already been "worn in"...

meaning that if this thing is in and out of our system so often, that the system we're in adapts to it.. and eventually nothing catastrophic comes in.. and matter is organized to "expect" it's arrival .. well not really.. but what i mean is that it's been in this "path" so many times before.. that it has nothing else to interfere with..
the time of unexpected collisions or swaying of already defined orbital paths have been already dealt with, and there's nothing "more to happen"...

take Pan for example.
a satellite of saturn.
it exists between two of the major sections of Saturn's rings.
It maybe started off small.. but created a bulge large enough to move through the rings and collect everythign in it's path.
now it has a nice clear path through the rings where very little in it's path causes it to divert... and it causes very little if any diversion of other major bodies..
it may have at one point.. but now that it's reached it's capacity.. swept up as much as possible within the orbit it's allowed..
so that now, it just goes on through without issue.

imagine a large body coming through, that has the least often intersection with other planets, yet still has come and gone sooo many times.. so many cycles... that it's as stable as any other planet, and the other planets are just as stable as any, because they've passed through each other and adjusted here and there... and eventually the proper balance was found .. that just.. worked.. and thats where it remained.

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Niburu is fake. if it really ever came through wed be able to see it. amateur astronomers would be able to easy given the alleged size and mass and orbit of niburu.

badastronomy.com has a whole section devoted to this.

reply to post by NavalFC


I'm sorry NavalFC, after having listened to your broken record over and over again. I HAVE A HUGE HEADACHE from annoyance!

You are clearly off topic and didnt even read the first post or watched the small part of the clip refered to! Go take your pointless argumenting somehere else or stay on topic! The OP is in no way implying that Nibiru exists ok?

We have all heard your point more than twice, now go away, till you have something valuable to contribute!

Originally posted by NavalFC

Originally posted by prevenge

Originally posted by Tgautier13
reply to post by prevenge

 

Hmm... I would have to say we don't 'feel' Saturn and Jupiter's presence per se, but our lives are affected by them. What would happen if Jupiter and Saturn were yanked from our Solar System? I would have to say our rotation around the Sun would be thrown completely out of whack, as their own magnetic pull and rotation is crucial to our own, just as our moon's rotation is relative to our tides. If a comet the size of what the OP's message describes did pass through our Solar System, science would tell us its own magnetic pull would affect our life and environment catastrophically; hence 'feeling' it. Yet here we are with at least some kind of video evidence (not proof) that an object did indeed pass through our Solar System. The question is then how did it do this relatively undetected, and how were we not affected? Nassim himself stated in the video he does not know.

magnetic pull?
do you mean gravitational?

what if it doesn't have a magnetic field, like many planets do not.

what if it came through so gradually, that it didn't affect anything or change anything.

what if it's an integral part of our solar system, and much like everythign else, it works like clockwork, because of millions of years of wear and tear, the "groves" have been worn in.. meaning every major body has it's "trough" layed out for itself.. it's "channel" through which it works.. and those intersections in time, in recurring times... these positions of interference when one body affects others, have already been "worn in"...

meaning that if this thing is in and out of our system so often, that the system we're in adapts to it.. and eventually nothing catastrophic comes in.. and matter is organized to "expect" it's arrival .. well not really.. but what i mean is that it's been in this "path" so many times before.. that it has nothing else to interfere with..
the time of unexpected collisions or swaying of already defined orbital paths have been already dealt with, and there's nothing "more to happen"...

take Pan for example.
a satellite of saturn.
it exists between two of the major sections of Saturn's rings.
It maybe started off small.. but created a bulge large enough to move through the rings and collect everythign in it's path.
now it has a nice clear path through the rings where very little in it's path causes it to divert... and it causes very little if any diversion of other major bodies..
it may have at one point.. but now that it's reached it's capacity.. swept up as much as possible within the orbit it's allowed..
so that now, it just goes on through without issue.

imagine a large body coming through, that has the least often intersection with other planets, yet still has come and gone sooo many times.. so many cycles... that it's as stable as any other planet, and the other planets are just as stable as any, because they've passed through each other and adjusted here and there... and eventually the proper balance was found .. that just.. worked.. and thats where it remained.

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Niburu is fake. if it really ever came through wed be able to see it. amateur astronomers would be able to easy given the alleged size and mass and orbit of niburu.

badastronomy.com has a whole section devoted to this.

thank you for clearing this up for me.
I always thought badastronomy could do the thinking for me, and now I KNOW!.

I will now go back to sleep and drink football and watch my beer, letting the indoctrinated experts; high priests of information tell me what is and what isn't.

Naval, in a multiverse of limitless possibility and infinite things to learn, you're a godsend with your no-nonsense black and white enlightenment.
I always knew I could count on ATS members like you to put any questioning and inquisitive minds like myself to rest, and finally once and for all, retreat to the dim quarters of ignorant bliss.



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[edit on 7-11-2008 by prevenge]

reply to post by Good_Vibrations


Unfortunately for Nassim Haramein, he is utterly lost and might do well to follow the examples of others who listen more than talk. The fact that he makes money for giving these presentations and is presenting incorrect information is something of a sin.

Contrary to Mr. Haramein convictions, the Universe is Electric, the Sun is Electric, All the Planets are Electric, all Gravity is created by electric processes and 95% of the universe Electrically Charged Plasma. Einstein was wrong, the ETHER" does exist and the universe is not based upon gravity, so Nassim Haramein joins the list of those who only have pieces of the truth.

There is a video on this subject : video.google.com...

While I and others continue the pursuit of what this all means, it means that while so called "Black Holes" may exist, the Electric Model predicts and explains the visible and not visible. Everything is connected.

It also brings the though to mind "Who or What Controls the Light Switch"

I posted this exact same video a few days ago.... go figure.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by NavalFC
Pictures would have come out, the media would have found out, and so forth.

lol government owns the media and everything else my friend =] its up to oneself, these days, to find the somewhat of the truth and collaborate with others on this site to confirm stories ;]

That's quite an amazing show.

What I find intriguing, is that most people don't think about how the Earth has survived for thousands of years virtually unharmed. How many times do you think this world has been close to being bombarded by astronomical substances/solids such as the commet that might've hit us last year? Now that were noticing it, we realize how much and how valuable life is.

Nasa of course wouldn't tell the public because of the one thing ATS tries hard to fight - massive public uprise and disorder. The world would turn upside down.

I don't know if what this man said was true or false but I can say that NASA probably would had came right out to the public if there weren't a chance in the world that we'd not survive it. Do you know what I mean? They wouldn't keep it from us, if they knew it was inevitable. So maybe at the time despite assumed beliefs from this man's video, they thought or hoped there would be a chance. And when it almost hit us, they figured it too late to tell us anyways. AND THEN when it passed us alarmingly without a scratch on our cozy Solar System, they thought there no reason to cause mass hysteria.


This is kinda difficult to comprehend. I wonder where I was on the night the world almost ended... but isn't that most every night??

Peace
`Cm.

reply to post by Good_Vibrations


No need to get excited about something that Harry can't prove. Planet X/Nibiru is still coming. It has not passed by us yet. At least the proof is in the pudding.

Jesus Christ....
NASA has nothing to do with this, nor does any conspirarcy. If you have a telescope, or even a calendar, you can see that some things in space happen with regularity.

Our solar system is not some static outpost; it is a cloud through which things of all types and sizes pass.

Get a grip.

We just passed through a "lump" of junk related to a comet (Taurids meteor shower), and will do so over and over again. They are not omens. Wake the f**k up!

Posts like this show me how much we are like ignorant savages who see an airplane and erect "bird" statues. No wonder higher intelligence waits to disclose itself.

Realize that we are a dynamic spot in the corner of an active galaxy, about which all sort of galactic "stuff" are going on and you can accept that the "solar system" is neither uniquely tied to a star, nor much of a system.

Get a f***ing grip.




[edit on 7-11-2008 by jdub297]

reply to post by maus80


Yes you are right, this planet x part was just a quick comment he made, this video is full of other more interesting things. I watched the whole of part 2 and this guy has made some HUGE research in all kinds of things that are very interesting, I especially was interested in the Ark of covenant parts.

I would say before even trying to debunk this video, you would have to choose which PART to debunk lol, this goes on for 8 hours. The only way you can debunk this whole video is if you watch the whole 8 hours and THEN research every single part for yourself to see if what he says is true. That would take a VERY long time.

Obviously the debunkers have not done this.



[edit on 8-11-2008 by _Phoenix_]

Just on the issue of Nassims claims that many people did'nt know about this comet, and that it was not covered by MSM. While the MSM rarely has much to do with this type unless it is highly visible(Neat was dissapointing to many astronomers as it was not as bright as expected). You could watch this comet approach on many sites. And sites where advertising the comets approach around the sun.

Spacewatch Friday: Promising New Comet Called NEAT (C/2002 V1) Graces Evening Sky

By Joe Rao
Special to SPACE.com
posted: 07:00 am ET
31 January 2003

During the next few weeks skywatchers can look for a recently discovered comet that may become plainly visible in the evening sky, and could possibly shine very brightly, just before a close encounter with the Sun.

Officially catalogued as C/2002 V1, the comet is currently visible with a pair of binoculars. Astronomers who attempt to forecast the future characteristics and behavior of these cosmic vagabonds have found this one to be particularly capricious. It may not brighten much more. Or it may soon be visible to the naked eye.

Space.com JAN2003
Nassim ties this comet into a number of theories, one being Nuribu, the other is his theory that beings of high intelligence use the Sun(singularity) to travel about the universe, and that these beings used the sun to displace NEATs orbit to save earth. I believe Nassim may have exaggerated NEAT's size and potential to effect earth, as nobody in the astronomy field voiced any concerns about this comets size, gravitational field, or trajectory towards or near earth.
There was a similar fear in 2000 about the alignment of the planets. Gravity was also supposed to have catastrophic effects, and theorist believed( by interpreting ancient Egyptians) that this had happened before, but nothing happened!


This 2000 event, like planet X and nubiru had inspired experts like:

Richard W Noone has spent the last twenty years researching his theories. He received the Georgia Grand Master's Award for his discovery of Masonic Influence in Ancient Egypt and his work has been featured on major national media including Oprah, Donahue, CNN, Sightings, and the top-rated TV show Millennium.

www.baproducts.com...
Richard Noone wrote a book called 5/5/2000 Ice: The Ultimate Disaster. In it Mr Noone talks of the impending doom the planets alignment will have on gravitation and earth etc., and how ancient civilisations like Egypt dealt with this is the past and predicted it happening again. Sound familiar.

Astonishing Evidence Points to Worldwide Disaster in Our Lifetime!
The number of earthquakes, volcanic eruptions, and freakish climate changes are increasing as we inexorably move closer to 5/5/2000.
Bits of vanished civilizations preserved in museums, evidence of entire forests fossilized instantly, and animals quick-frozen and preserved for millennia prove that a sudden, momentous change in the Earth's surface occurred in the past.
An extensive study of the Great Pyramid reveals a mathematical message of warning built into the structure by survivors of a similar catastrophe millennia ago.

BTW, don't worry, i am not going to spoil the ending for any of you that haven't read the book.

Now I mention this past book and event because this is similar to Nassim' tie in of NEAT and Nubiru in a few ways. He has researched for as long, he ties in some alternative archeological interpretations and he use an astronomical/cosmological event. Nassim has some great Ideas, I love the Geometric structures, the fractal nature, Universal scaling law for all matter, the perpetual feed back cycle between electro-magnetic resonance and gravitation to singularity. Unfortunately Nassim also predicted in his Rogue valley lecture that the Sun was unstable and preparing to shed Matter from itself in order to mantain equilibrium. He based this on observing the chaotic pulsing of the Sun and the vast amount of solar and sunspot activity, but 4 years after nassims video it is very quite in Solar minimum, one that could last for 1 to 8 years going on the past cycles. He also tied this into the 2012 theory.

I think we have to take Nassim' interpretation of this event, and his theories on the sun with a pinch of salt. I think its a shame that some of these topics cloud some of his Unified Field ideas, which are far more interesting. Remember too, that the video was recorded at the Rogue Valley Metaphysical library, so Nassim was tying in alot of alternative topics, alternative archeological interpretations and ancient cultural and religious history to cater for his lecture audience, did they pay to be there? Its quite interesting that this topic has come up again recently as Nassim was just on tour in the USA, once again talking up a storm. I still can't find any of the Peer reviews he was talking about in the Videos.

IMHO, this part of Nassim' video is an interpretation of an astronomical event attached to an interpretation of an ancient text which could result in one concluding that the meshing of these two interpretations are difinitive evidence. Watch the video carefully, those that deal the cards are fast. This video deck is stacked in favour of alternative views and interpretations, i mean, who wants to see a lecture online by Astronomers on how boring NEAT comet was, when you can see someone at the Metaphysics library tie it into an ancient summerian text fortelling the impending doom and how a USA govt space agency tried to cover up the images captured by a satelite owned by the vatican(which is essentially what Nassim does). I know which one i'd prefer. Mystery, intrigue and revelation are far more entertaining.
I loved all the ancient civilisations and some of the similarities he points out and how he ties them together via geometry. Flower of life etc. Cool stuff.

Wow, I had no idea this even happened. It never ceases to amaze me the things that come to light after the fact.

Make me wonder what else we are not being told.......

reply to post by anonamousantichrist


With all respects, you may have never heard of this, but it was not a secret. I've read many articles on this comet and the possibility that it was disturbed by a coronal mass ejection (CME) from the Sun. This was talked about by the "science media" quite a bit in the past 5 years.

I even remember a story regarding comet NEAT and the SOHO images of the CME appearing in some mainstream back in 2003, because I said to myself that I was surprised they were covering a purely esoteric science story.

-- However, I fail to see what that has to do with Nibiru. This was simply a normal comet that possibly happened to get hit by a CME. It's a perfectly average comet that got in the way of a perfectly normal natural solar event.

Nothing in the video proves any differently.

[edit on 11/8/2008 by Soylent Green Is People]

Nassim is the one responsible for them creating black holes in France. Remember he stated that he was working on technology within the first hour of the second video.
These people proved that they can open up black holes. And since then the machine was taken offline apparently. The French President has spoke to President Obama for about 30 mins and congratulated him. Iran's President has taken the news for writing a letter to President Obama. The Russians have moved their defense forward.

If what Nassim holds true with all this information it can explain things even further. For instance water seeping from the tunnels of black holes on the surface or the vehicle for the vertices . . worms holes or whatever. That can explain things like the deluge.

I also would like to state that Nassim pointed out earths biggest active Volcano in Hawaii. Nassim and his colleagues office is located in Hawaii. President Obama lived in Hawaii. These people could be being handed down the gift of knowledge. They might of been abducted and altered in such a way they would never recollect. Nassim could even be an alien or an alien puppet. Most of everything he rattles on about makes sense.

And finally I would like to point out that our brains are made from black holes. Tiny black holes connected to everything else. That's the fraction of weight that lifts off your body when you die. It's the event horizon. The threshold. Sort of like those giant bulging eyes of an alien gray. Bigger brains. Bigger black holes.


[edit on 8-11-2008 by WISHADOW]

Wow 8 hours. I don't care if most of it ends up being bunk, I am quite excited to watch it

reply to post by Lucid Lunacy


Even if a lot is not true, I'm sure he's trying to be honest. He's just trying to find answers in the big puzzle. Researching all the very interesting clues and stories in history and trying to put them together to get the big picture.

He really seemed like a nice guy in this video.



[edit on 8-11-2008 by _Phoenix_]

Originally posted by n2neee

Originally posted by NavalFC
Pictures would have come out, the media would have found out, and so forth.

lol government owns the media and everything else my friend =] its up to oneself, these days, to find the somewhat of the truth and collaborate with others on this site to confirm stories ;]

you totally ignored the first half of that comment, that was if Niburu was real and on the path as stated it would be immensly bright. it would have been the brihtest object , even brighter then venus and anyone who would like up in the sky could have seen it Niburu isnt real