God is no Hoax, God is Alive

I am going to try to make along story short here. This is a true story.
Seven years ago my wife complained of abdominal pain, It became so bad that I had to take her to the emergency room for help. After sitting there for what seemed like forever after they had taken blood and performed an ultra sound of her stomach area , the doctor came to see us. The doctor came at us with the good news bad news thing, we took the good news first, he said do you know your pregnant, well that was truely a surprise, my wife had been on the pill and it just wasn't expected. The bad news was that the fetus was tubal and severly grown over in the falopian tube, no possible way for it to break free, and so scheduled for surgery to have the fetus removed to save her life.
I had struggled with my level of faith my whole life, back and forth , totally being affected by this horrible turn of events I decided to go ask God Myself to save this baby's life. I was a delivery driver for a company that delivered flowers out of town , all the way from deep inside illinois to WI. I made it a point to stop in DickeyVille WI, to beg God to save my child's life. There is a place there that was built stone by stone , gem by gem, by a Catholic Priest that had believed this was very Hollowed Ground. I could of been fired for delaying my route, the people I worked for weren't Christian, only cared about there flowers and timing, and of course their money. I stopped anyway, it felt like there was not anything else I could of done. I was compelled to go pray! It has taken me time to remember the name of this place , it is called the Grotto.
Keeping with the long story short idea, I dropped to my knees with tears in my eyes and begged him to save my kid, instantly I felt relieved, like a change had happened, I wasn't at all worried anymore, I knew the Lord was going to do something. I felt it inside me like knowing it was daylight I knew it was so. When I stood up from being on my knees, It literally felt like I weighed 20 pounds. He lifted me up.
Night before surgery, baby still in tube, surgery for am on schedule, ultrasound was taken before I was at the Grotto. 9am the next morning pre surgery, baby couldn't be found on Ultrasound anywhere inside my wife. MY SON IS 6 YEARS OLD NOW, AND IN PERFECT HEALTH.

The odds on this happening , given to us by my wife's doctor were 11 million to one against , and never before anywhere had a fetus just dissappeared before on an ultrasound, they normally show up as a miscarraige or attached to the uterine wall.

Eleven Million to One odds. The doctor said this report of this incident was being read about by just about every OB in the world that week, It just doesn't happen.

I love my God, and I can tell you the Grotto seems almost like Heaven on Earth, the hair stood up on my neck the whole time I was anywhere near this place, and it always does, I try to revisit the Grotto every chance I get and thank the Lord again for my beautiful son.

You can Google the Grotto in Dickey Ville WI for more info on the site, but I can tell you, this is a bonofide Miracle, and I firmly believe in the power of God and His absolute ability to change anything in our lives, including the Physical.

I am telling you, He is there and he listens.

Prepare to be debunked by the horde of nonbelievers.
This is already going to piss some people off.
They consider it their mission in life to take your faith away.

Good Luck.

it cannot be touched brother, not in the least,
solid as a rock on this fact

Here is a link to the grotto

www.roadsideamerica.com...

Im very pleased everything is well with your son then.
Im not going to attempt to debunk you because I also believe.
I guess that makes me a dumbed down "clingy" American, /creationist/ nonintellectual/poor bastard.

Thats cool I guess if the shoe fits wear it right?

ya I've always had a saying but most of the time people are a little confused by it but it might suit you well assuming you understand what it means.

A man with faith is a man with doubt
I have no faith because I have no doubt.

after being on here for as long as I have , I think today was the day I needed to tell everyone about this,

kinda been shakey lately getting distracted from what was important in life, and remembering this experience always brings me out of my fear and back on track

I am glad you are a believer, truely!

when you have a experience like this one,
nothing will ever amaze you
nothing will ever take it from you
knowing is a great feeling

I just hope that others that don't have that option
can find it for themselves before the end

If anyone wants to research this the doctors name to contact is Dr. Delos Hansen O.B. , Obstetricits Davenport, Iowa

Only 4 documented cases of this happening in US history.

Absolutely BEAUTIFUL.

I Love the power of God.

A miracle, if I understand well? I guess I'm part of the 'hordes of unbelievers', because trying to prove God's existence using this approach (miracle) is flawed in my opinion. One in 11 millions odds means just that, not that it's impossible.

Sir, tell me, some people pray when they are in great need... and nothing happens. Why do you think this is?

Let me brutally honest: if things had gone otherwise, the odds of you being here at this moment posting this would be, well, one in 11 millions.

Everyone has stuff that float their boat, and they are bound to be different for everyone. We're humans.

Originally posted by Anomander
A miracle, if I understand well? I guess I'm part of the 'hordes of unbelievers', because trying to prove God's existence using this approach (miracle) is flawed in my opinion. One in 11 millions odds means just that, not that it's impossible.

Sir, tell me, some people pray when they are in great need... and nothing happens. Why do you think this is?

Let me brutally honest: if things had gone otherwise, the odds of you being here at this moment posting this would be, well, one in 11 millions.

Everyone has stuff that float their boat, and they are bound to be different for everyone. We're humans.

The part your not getting is that is the case of tubals going good on there own, not a fetus that dissapeared from the ultrasound twenty minutes before surgery. That Sir is the only case Ever...not to presume anything but Something , some force took my son out of harms way, and put him back in place when it was safe.

ONE TIME ...not one in eleven million And that force was GOD!!!

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[edit on 1-11-2008 by Randy Echo]

I understood that... which is why I called it a miracle. And, (that's how it seems to me), the miracle strengthened your faith.

In short, you prayed, and God answered. That indeed would indicate that he exists.

Which is why I asked for your opinion on those prayers that are not answered, when the need is just as great as yours was. Because in those cases, one could conclude that, because God didn't answer the prayer, then he doesn't exist.

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I would say he answers every single prayer, some with a "yes" and some with a "no"

My personal feeling on this is that whatever the outcome we pray for is, it can't get in the way of God's will, if for some reason and I know this is going to sound wrong, he needs someones resolve strengthened, he cannot always do this with a "yes", his will shapes us and drives us not only affecting our lives but the lives of others we encounter and will encounter. Kind of a biblical domino effect or butterfly effect. I feel I was a participant in my son's existance, but due to the power and rarity of this kind of miracle , i am pre disposed to believe that my son will someday fufill some type of interference or influence on an event or events or someones thought, IE> he was saved for a higher purpose, not directly because I asked.

Hmmm...someone probably mixed up the ultrasound results - it happens all the time in hostpitals. It's generally refered to as a 'clerical error'. Dangerous and iritating - yes - as miracle? Not really.

Hey Anomander...........Thanks for making it clear that it was only your opinion that it may not be miraculous.

It shows you have respect for the situation and I dont count you as a nonbeliever, just a Wise skeptic.

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I was touched by your story. I am glad that things worked out for you, your wife, and son.

I have told maybe six other people before tonight because I felt it was a story to save to build up other people who were down, but I realized I needed to share it with everyone in the world, and at this moment. The world is looking pretty banged up right now, people need all the faith that can be had right now, GOD BLESS YOU

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All it boils down to then is God's will. Irrespective of what our own will is, God's is always going to come first. Perhaps you could understand why some take issue with that, because it throws the whole free will thing into question.

Your son could 'someday fulfill some type of interference or influence on an event or events or someones thought', as you put it... or he could not. That he survived in no way indicates anything (of whatever nature) in his future.

Higher purpose? We're creeping into predestination and stuff here. Arguably if you had been an atheist, he still would have survived because God has a 'plan' for him. Therefore your prayer would have nothing to do with his survival. See where I'm running with this?

But then again, God could have a higher purpose for him (or me, for that matter), and it still wouldn't negate his free will. What do I know?

Very touching and remarkable story! Thank God your son is doing well (pun intended)!

However, I do wish to ask a question..and don't take this the wrong way, I'm not here to try to make you disbelieve by any means nor am I trying to debunk anything. But, by that logic, if I prayed to the Flying Spaghetti Monster asking for the same thing as you had, and the same thing had indeed happened, should I believe that the Flying Spaghetti Monster is God?

Again, don't let that come off the wrong way, I'm just curious as to the thought process behind things such as this. I don't think you are attempting to 'prove' God exists so I won't take the course of action of trying to 'disprove' you. I have just noticed that people of all faiths and religions, when something truly miraculous happens to them, believe that this miracle was performed by whomever/whatever they worship, adding a deeper level of confidence in their belief. It just appears to me as if the same event, when looked at by a variety of different aspects and by people of different religions, can simultaneously strengthen each person's faith in his/her religion.

That is why I decided from the start just to tell the story as it actually took place and let everyone run with it, I only put my opinions in because you asked it of me. I answered from my heart.

I BELIEVE and I have no doubts, my own personal assurance of knowingness in a world full of doubt and skeptics.

Im going to back off now and let everyone just assorb it.