Breaking news: Stephenville Texas buzzed by UFO's again!!!

reply to post by afaik


I think the most likely idea, is that the military do not know what thes things are and either
A: Send fighters to get a look ate them and gather info
or B:They know that they are alien and have to show some kind of ability to defend ourselves militarily as doing nothing may be interpreted as a lack of inteligence or even weakness.

reply to post by Anonymous ATS


It occurs to me that if the Air Force is doing training exercises in an area that has UFO hype, and they are going to be using odd lights as part of the exercise, they could announce it BEFORE the exercise rather than wait till the calls come in.

They wouldnt have to tell us what it is, if it were secret, but they could say, "Hey, doing something with F-16s in the sky at night involving weird lights, it aint UFOs dont worry about it."

However, they dont. They use that as an excuse AFTER the UFO's are being spotted. If they are doing the training in an area where people can see anyway, why not tell people ahead of time if they really dont want us to think it is UFOs?

I would say that we have options here in how to consider this;

1) they want us to assume incorrectly that there are UFOs (and that they are denying it, whipping us into a conspiracy frenzy) in preparation for some UFO scam they want to pull on us.

2) they really are UFO's and they dont warn us ahead of time because they dont KNOW ahead of time.

3)They dont want us to worry about UFOs, and there are not really UFOs, just them doing exercises, and they dont inform the public ahead of time because they are clueless that we will assume they are UFOs until the calls come in.

Number 3 seems ridiculous. After all this time, surely they would realize that if they do weird exercises at night people might assume they are seeing UFOs. Since they waste the time issuing statements after the fact, why not be proactive and issue them beforehand?

reply to post by SaviorComplex


Any statistical evidence to back up your theory? Or is this just your opinion masquerading as fact?

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
Here's a question i've never heard people ask: why would aliens put lights on their craft? I mean, if they truly are extraterrestrial, then they would be millions of miles from home. There would be no need for lights. I do believe in aliens and ufo's, but i think ones which are seen that have lights on them are man-made secret craft. Only humans would think to put lights on them. I guess technically, even if they are man-made, they are still considered UFO's. Opinions?

That's good reasoning. One factor you may want to consider is the possibility that the lights that we see are not instruments designed to illuminate, but that the light is a side effect of some other function. It is not hard to imagine devices that make noise, vibrate or emit light in which the output is merely a side effect of some other primary function.


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reply to post by silver6ix


yes.... always.

Now the media..Uk..France...etc.

Can you smeel it ??

Something is cooking and it ain't good.

I love when people presume to understand how an ET would think - what it's goals/methods/abilities are. I am not saying I am convinced that these visits are alien in nature, but for the sake of making my point lets pretend they are.

Why would they keep appearing in Stephenville? Perhaps there is something in the area they want. Most of us here have seen video or heard stories of these aircraft drawing energy from our planet in some capacity, correct? Maybe the town sits on a hot spot.

Maybe, as mentioned above, one of their own really is buried nearby.

Or perhaps from above the composition of Stephenvilles city lights looks like something familiar to them and they like to hover there because it reminds them of home.

The fact is, we don't know the facts as to why they do anything. Period. If you DO know the facts than you are privy to knowledge that is being kept from your own people and shame on you for that. But that's another subject entirely.

As far as putting lights on a craft being a purely Terrestrial concept - well I just have to laugh at this one. Again, we just can't know. It's possible that, like us, they need them to prevent collision in the dark skies. It's also been said that the lights are used as a form of communication both between these craft, and in some cases between them and us. Just because they can get to our planet (or shift into our dimension depending on what you believe and what species we are dealing with) that doesn't mean they are more technologically advanced than us. It just means they managed to discover a few things we have not. While they can apparently do some pretty amazing things with these craft, who is to say the ability to toast a piece of bread isn't lost on them?

Those of you who presume to know the inner workings of these lifeforms watch too many movies. You are basing your assumptions on our own limitations or lack thereof and your stunted thinking is a big part of why humanity has been closed off to such things.

Open your minds to all possibilities. Do not limit yourselves to what logic tells you is most plausible because logical thinking has gotten us into a lot of trouble over the span of our history. It has it's place, certainly. But when dealing with the unknown we need to be prepared for anything.



Mod Note:Anon OP,here's a good reason to join ATS; If you were a member I might have done more than star this post.


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reply to post by Lastone


In a sense its possible that as much of the driving force behind disclosure is coming from the EU and the UN right now. Some EU nations have made their position on this quite clear in recent times, they do view it seriously and the are "suspicious" as to who knows what. While they dont directly say so, they do clearly imply that such secrecy would be considered a lack of fundemental trust between allies.

What may have started as an unwritten agreement to not talk about the phenomenon seems to have become a point of global suspicion, you'll notice that France, Belgium, Italy, Mexico and even Brazil, and now the UK have been making public moves on "disclosure" and seem quite happy to have the issue in the public eye.

I dont think many countries really trust the reason behind the secrecy anymore.

There have also been a few "sly comments" about what the word "ally" means and what sort of trust that entails. My own feeling is that other nations have a growing concern as to who knows what and the implications of it.

If theres a suspicion that an organisation like MAJIC exists and operates beyond control, you can be assured even your most loyal allies will be alarmed. While im sure they would like to be "in the loop" more than having Joe Public in the loop, im sure they would enjoy cranking up the pressure on the issue to see what pops out.

I dont think the existence of MAJIC makes anyone comfortable. Your allies do not want some quasi commercial, non elected, unlilateral super group running around with the worlds most advanced technology, they might be allies but they arent stupid. If they suspect anyone has it, then they ALL want a part of it.

A couple of interested quotes, worded in a very French way from the report, both are direct quotes from the English version of the COMETA report....I think its clear that Europe is more than a little suspicious of whose involved in what:

"It would be desirable then for the European States and the European Union Commission to conduct every type of research and to initiate diplomatic demarches, exerting useful pressure, to clarify this issue, which must fall under the scope of political and strategic alliances."

"Whatever the givens are with respect to American political problems, and in the face of a posture of ongoing secrecy, how can we conceive of harmonious political and military relations among allies and particularly within NATO, which must normally be founded on basic trust, if access to information of incalculable importance - particularly technological information - is not shared?"

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Originally posted by Resinveins
reply to post by SaviorComplex

 

Any statistical evidence to back up your theory? Or is this just your opinion masquerading as fact?

Admittedly, while there is no hard statistical data on this, there is far more evidence for it than claims or suggestions of a media conspiracy to release information. For instance, look at the 1990s. This period saw "The X-Files," "Dark Skies," the increase in popularity of Coast to Coast, the hoopla surrounding the 50th anniversary of the supposed Crash at Roswell, and a made-for-cable movie about the incident. The 1950s saw similiar public interest, as evidenced by movies such as "Earth vs. the Flying Saucers," "The Day the Earth Stood Still," and numerous other movies about UFOs. This article describes a period of waning interest just two years ago. As evidence of an uptick in the interest in the subject, in the past year, TV different cable networks have premiered shows called "UFO Hunters." I doubt there is one serious researcher who would tell you there are not cycles of public interest in UFOs.





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reply to post by SaviorComplex


Its not really whether it has been in the media thats important, its how it has been portrayed.

Obviously it has been in the media, otherwise the whole concept of the "tin foil hat" stigma wouldnt exist. The media has convered it, in its own dogmatic stigmatic way over the years. The XFiles did more to reinforce mythology than it did to raise any serious consideration.

UFO study has long been presented as "acceptable fiction" but "rediculous fact" and im pretty sure most people who have studied the issue seriously would agree.

At the moment theres less stigmatising and mockery in the coverage which is unusual in the extreme. I saw many UFO "reports" in the 80's and 90's, most of which were preceded by a mocking quip by the news team of finished with one. That seems less and less the case in the latest round of UFO coverage which is far more important than frequency.

It doesnt need to be everyday news, what it needs first and foremost is to be presented with a serious tone and as NEWs rather than half hearted comedy and a chance to laugh at little green men.

Many possibilities...it could be a secret military craft, but I don't understand why they would keep flying it over Dublin and Stephenville when they know the huge publicity it will produce. Now there is video footage of the large circular object (bad quality). Perhaps the F-16s were up there to escort it. But the witnesses seeing the UFO before they saw the F-16s doesn't make sense. I would like to know how long they saw the UFO before they saw the F-16s. That would help a lot.

Or this is a genuine UFO whether alien or from some other country on earth and they scrambled 7 F-16s to intercept it. 7-10 F-16s is a lot of jets for a training mission over a populated area. Keep that in mind. But if a UFO as large as witnesses keep describing keeps showing up in the area, perhaps they think they might need a lot of fire power to be on the safe side...?

I don't know the answers just like you don't...but I can tell you one thing for sure - THE JOINT NAVAL AIR BASE IS LYING when all they say is they had F-16s in the area. That doesn't account for what these witnesses keep seeing and now have caught on tape.

Also..........we've got to get our hands on that half minute of footage and analyze it. *cough* Dr. Bruce Maccabee

Originally posted by silver6ix
UFO study has long been presented as "acceptable fiction" but "rediculous fact" and im pretty sure most people who have studied the issue seriously would agree.

At the moment theres less stigmatising and mockery in the coverage which is unusual in the extreme.

I agree that the tone across the media as a whole has been mocking, no doubt. But I think the tone would vary among individual news outlets and reports; often the tone would hinge on who was reporting an encounter. And while regular news broadcasts and articles would carry a derisive tone, news-magazines (think 20/20), talk-shows and specials on the networks would handle it with far more seriousness.

And, granted, the tone has been improving. But I do not think this is a recent development. I think it started changing in the 1990s.

reply to post by silver6ix


"It doesnt need to be everyday news, what it needs first and foremost is to be presented with a serious tone and as NEWs rather than half hearted comedy and a chance to laugh at little green men."

And that is the question.

"presented with serious tone and as News"

We are talking about the media...not information between allies.

If the US media is making serious news about the subject it is because "someone" is telling them to do it. It as always been this way and it will always be.
Who and why ? And that led me to the motives behind it all.

I have my theory... but I'm just another Lunatic ..

reply to post by AlienChaser


Hi this is my first posting on here but ive been a reader for awile now. I live about a quarter mile from Carlswell A.F.B. and remember friday the 24th there was alot of abnormal activity going on with the F-16's that fly around this area. Its not abnormal to see F-16's flying in this area but what was perculiar was the eratic way they were flying. It was almost as if they were chasing something, they usually always fly in pairs but this day there were five of them in the immediate area flying in what i can best describe as maybe a mock dogfight pattern but they were never in too close proximity to each other. Ive lived here for almost a year and a half and have not seen them fly in such a way since ive been here. Coincidence maybe i dont know but just thought it would be worth mentioning. By the Carlswell A.F.B. is where the F-16's were scrambled last time all the activity was going on in Stevenville for you guys that didnt already know that.

its the houston airshow today...

And might I add that if it is a secret military craft that they're doing a bad job of keeping out of the public eye, then they have good reason to not release details of it. But what Steve Allen and Ricky Sorrells have described to me and in public doesn't ring of it being "ours"

As for the jets chasing these things, I think this is the government/military's way of saying "We don't want you here. " Or "We're not ready for you yet." If this is even real at all. That would be my speculative guess on why we chase UFO's. Pilots probably know, yeah we'll never catch them, and yeah they'll disable our weapons before we fire on them, but they don't want to hurt us so they won't attack us.

reply to post by silver6ix


Don't forget about this.....

Talking about playin it safe...

Ok, I live in the North Dallas area and we saw strange lights on Thurs night. We could not figure out what they were. We were between Frisco and Mckinney showing our visiting relatives around the area. We saw two huge lights just hanging in the sky. Our carload of six 4 adults and 2 kids saw them. We were comparing them to the airplanes in the sky and they were huge, way bigger than the airplanes. We even joked that Stephensville was not too far away and they could be ufo's. We are totally freaked now. In a good way. We might have saw "it" too the same night.
L- in Mckinney

Not to get to conspiricy minded here but yesterday I was talking about the French UFO phenomenon report and I linked to a site which has the english version.

I also sent the link to a couple of mainstream media sites in the UK "enquiring" as to whether it had ever been covered by mainstream news, given that its such a credible report......oddly enough the website has since stopped working altogether and is no longer accessible.

www.ufoevidence.org...