Tuning in to Extraterrestrial Contact

Originally posted by Drakiir
I think this would have to be the most irresponsible and dangerous thing I have seen to date (with a Moderator especially) encouraging ET contact.

I will note that I have was a contactee of the Greys for 26 years of my life and I can tell you it was hell. They put fear into you daily, isolate you from existence and other people close to you. Mind wipes and fake memories were so common I ended up with literally two versions of my life.

How did I escape it? I had to cut all contacts with my family so that they could not be used against me to keep me under their control. I also discovered the UBM Universal Binary Matrix and how they access it to manipulate events to their will. When I discovered this the 'gig was up' for them and I heard a distinct voice say 'let him go' a signal was then cut of and I felt a release in my body.

The point of my post is that I went through hell under the deceptive deviates believing they were for the good because of their fancy tech when they are totally opposite. Has anyone thought that they arent seen because they don't want to be seen and that by 'intruding in their space' is the most irresponsible thing to do?

No one has to believe what I went through or what I am accounting of and the irresponsibility against SkyFloating that I have mentioned. I don't care if no one believes a word of what I am saying but trust me finding out for yourselves is just plane careless.

SkyFloating should be held accountable for any adverse effects experienced through his encouragement.

Then some outside ATS, might think you too are guilty by supporting the forum and being a member. Doesn't wash.

There are many other species. Grays are just the most prevalent. I have a problem with them too, but nothing I can remember thank goodness.

I still think we've a bit more thinking before contact will be good for us.

Plenty others to account for too I think.

ZG

reply to post by ZeroGhost


Then some outside ATS, might think you too are guilty by supporting the forum and being a member. Doesn't wash.

There are many other species. Grays are just the most prevalent. I have a problem with them too, but nothing I can remember thank goodness.

Firstly just because I am a member of ATS does not mean I condone what SkyFloating is trying to do, Im totally against it. I DO NOT support what SkyFloating is doing and think contact towards any ETs should be veered away from, without question from contact.

I also want to mention that at no point did I ask to be contacted it just happened, Id be crazy to ask for intervention of that kind willingly to effect my life the way it has.

Im sure that if other ET species wanted to share their plans and processes with people of Earth they would but I dont see them overly supporting that view. I view them as in hiding and wanting to keep to themselves and I think deliberately intruding apon that as SkyFloating is encouraging is only asking for trouble.

In summary my view is: Avoid contact with any ET species whatsoever and I do not support on any level what SkyFloating is trying to accomplish as I think it is plain irresponsible.

Curiosity is good to have but in ET terms the consequences of such actions to forcibly try and initiate some sort of contact are totally unknown, another 'keep away' sign. I say forcibly because the Greys and other species are not exactly 'extending out their hands' to us.

These possible consequences are not being considered whatsoever in the pursuit of the 'have to know no matter what'.

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In summary my view is: Avoid contact with any ET species whatsoever and I do not support on any level what SkyFloating is trying to accomplish as I think it is plain irresponsible.

Curiosity is good to have but in ET terms the consequences of such actions to forcibly try and initiate some sort of contact are totally unknown, another 'keep away' sign. I say forcibly because the Greys and other species are not exactly 'extending out their hands' to us.

These possible consequences are not being considered whatsoever in the pursuit of the 'have to know no matter what'.

I am sorry about the nature of your experience, and the consequences of what you say happened.

However, your experience is NOT the only type of experience, and this is something to consider.

Let me share something with you, albeit in very short form:

I have had experiences with the "Grays", and still to this day, I am being "watched".

Nevertheless, before AND after, I had and continue to be in communication with OTHER minds, consciousnesses and "beings", domestic AND foreign.

I am living proof that my constant desire for knowledge, my constant seeking out of guidance and protection, as well as my constant desire to LIVE the knowledge that is given to me, can be and effectively IS worth the risks, the darker moments and the obstacles along the way.

The fact that there are perils out there means that we should be CAREFUL while exploring new dimensions and the abilities that allow us access to such places and to our Inner Selves.

Yet, restating what I have said in previous posts, IT DOES NOT MEAN that we should cower and retreat to the mental prisons and places where physical Humanity has continuously been "forced" to dwell, afraid and wary of its own nature, believing in fables of sin and inadequacy.

We are immortal and eternal.
We are forever learning and able to reach our highest potentials.
We ARE and WILL BE FREE.

Knowledge of our TRUE selves, of our infinite possibilities, and of the Universe in which all this takes place, can only get us CLOSER to True understanding, and to participate in BEING more of the ever-expanding reality that we ARE and WILL BE.

Experiences like yours, like mine, CAN AND SHOULD empower us.

We can, we MUST learn and grow...

I just want to see what time it is on this forum right now.

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1 e.) Recruitment/Solicitation:

i) You will not use your membership at The Above Network, LLC site(s) for any type of recruitment to any causes whatsoever. You will not post, use the chat feature or use the private message system to disseminate advertisements, chain letters, petitions, pyramid schemes, or any kind of solicitation for political action, social action, letter campaigns, or related online and/or offline coordinated actions of any kind.

In my opinion SkyFloating is trying to recruit people into a group of potential abductees which the results are not only psychological damage but consequences of no clear understanding.

I think this is a badly thought out initiative which is presenting misunderstanding and danger to all encouraged to do so, I suggest it stop in addition to the hypocrisy.

I will note that even thought the above paragraph states 'members' I dont think that Moderators should consider themselves a 'special examption' from this.


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Experiences like yours, like mine, CAN AND SHOULD empower us.

We can, we MUST learn and grow...

Mine have done exactly that, thats why I abhor the Greys and know of their real deception in trying to promote a 'we are here to help' facade. It has made me totally aware of the lies and deceptions they are capable of and that is why I avoid them and are grateful to be free of them.

You cant honestly say that your completely fine with being watched like a guinea-pig 24/7 as they did with me, I hated it and they knew that. They can seem 'oh so friendly' but they are anything but once you start to question their true nature.

Granted I am only talking of once race but gratefully I have not encountered any others and will strive to keep it that way as I hope others do to

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Originally posted by Drakiir
reply to post by Skyfloating

 

1 e.) Recruitment/Solicitation:

i) You will not use your membership at The Above Network, LLC site(s) for any type of recruitment to any causes whatsoever. You will not post, use the chat feature or use the private message system to disseminate advertisements, chain letters, petitions, pyramid schemes, or any kind of solicitation for political action, social action, letter campaigns, or related online and/or offline coordinated actions of any kind.

In my opinion SkyFloating is trying to recruit people into a group of potential abductees which the results are not only psychological damage but consequences of no clear understanding.

I think this is a badly thought out initiative which is presenting misunderstanding and danger to all encouraged to do so, I suggest it stop in addition to the hypocrisy.

I will note that even thought the above paragraph states 'members' I dont think that Moderators should consider themselves a 'special examption' from this.

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Is it OK if I do not want to join your Head in the Sand" movement?

It won't go away. We can leave any time individually, but denying something does not diminish its reality. You may not like the implications of a truck about to hit you, but covering your eyes has a very limited effect on the outcome.

In the same vein you are condemning Skyfloating, you yourself are questioning his and our rights to discuss this. That he has meditation techniques that help us connect on a level above the monkey brain is nothing but exploration to understand.

We would still be in Mesopotamia if not for such attempts to explore. Your argument is more appropriate to the 17th century church.

Are you expressing a religious prejudice possibly, or simple fear motivated self preservation?

We are trying to understand so we can have some power to deal with the good and the bad experiences. Fear would have us all be victims. Awareness can maybe give us tools to enforce our freedom and soverenty, even in the events you are afraid of.

Help us understand so we can resist such abuse. If we have advanced awareness we can stop it. We could use your help.

ZG

reply to post by Drakiir


Seriously. I agree with you on many points. But right now we have no way of stopping them. There is no way to hide or stop it, yet. We need to find a way to stand up to such horrific abuse. I know of some events where people where able to resist. Lets build on that knowledge, and figure this out.

Go to this site and read a bit. They agree with you, but also with us. The say we are being taken advantage of and our freedoms are raped from us by these beings.

Allies of Humanity

They are attempting to help us understand. Check them out.

We're here for you too and want to help. Your fear is a natural and reasonable response, and your perceptions are real and accurate.

Can we talk about it?

ZG

reply to post by ZeroGhost


Is it OK if I do not want to join your Head in the Sand" movement?

My 'head in the sand' movement has got me out of hell and back in to the normal world which I am more than proud of and thats one less slave for the Greys. My head in the sand would be to pretend that I am not a puppet of the Greys, thats not the case so in that your totally wrong.

It won't go away. We can leave any time individually, but denying something does not diminish its reality. You may not like the implications of a truck about to hit you, but covering your eyes has a very limited effect on the outcome.

Again as stated above as in your 'truck hitting me' example I sidestepped the truck not covered my eyes

In the same vein you are condemning Skyfloating, you yourself are questioning his and our rights to discuss this. That he has meditation techniques that help us connect on a level above the monkey brain is nothing but exploration to understand.

I am condemning Skyfloating by him trying to bring other people in to doing something that is very dangerous and should not be taken with an amost 'new fad' approach. This is not sitting around a campfire singing coombyaa its a very serious and dangerous thing to do to contact beings that only people in high up levels know things about.

We would still be in Mesopotamia if not for such attempts to explore. Your argument is more appropriate to the 17th century church.

Exploring is a natural thing but even then there are some places we shouldnt go, would you for example walk into a tornado to see what it is like on the inside, no. Same approach that I am applying somethings are best to be avoided as the consequences outwheigh the curiosity.

Are you expressing a religious prejudice possibly, or simple fear motivated self preservation?

Im not religious I am spiritual just to get that straight and one that has no fear of nothing is a fool and is only asking for trouble. I don't need to fear Greys as I have nothing to do with them or them with me anymore.

If I do have any fears of anything Im not blind enough to ignore the fear and put myself in danger, fear is sometimes there for a reason and I choose to judge it and react upon it accordingly.

We are trying to understand so we can have some power to deal with the good and the bad experiences. Fear would have us all be victims. Awareness can maybe give us tools to enforce our freedom and soverenty, even in the events you are afraid of.

By not doing what Skyfloating in suggesting will keep you out of potentially a hell of allot worse than if your arrogant to the fear in the first place.

Help us understand so we can resist such abuse. If we have advanced awareness we can stop it. We could use your help.

Easy dont do what Skyfloating is suggesting or you could go ahead and do exactly what he is asking of you and paint a 'Im asking for it' target on your back for any potential ET to read

reply to post by ZeroGhost


Seriously. I agree with you on many points. But right now we have no way of stopping them. There is no way to hide or stop it, yet. We need to find a way to stand up to such horrific abuse. I know of some events where people where able to resist. Lets build on that knowledge, and figure this out.

No one can stop them from doing what they are doing not even the governments can cause lets face it we just arent up to scratch on their tech. But we can stop them by realizing how deceptive they are and alerting others to this realization.

I mean think about it would they be happy having more slaves to abduct who willingly and deliberately want them to visit. Or would it be better to understand their deception and avoid being taken and abused by them, my guess is number 2 stay away.

It only makes things worse for whichever ET visits cause its one less puppet to control and even if there were a 'friendly' race out there there is no way we would know which one is which.

I will also reiterate than when they took me it happened out of nowhere I never deliberately tried to get them to contact me in any way, thats the difference. Look at what Skyfloating is promoting as a deliberate and almost provoked attempt to get them to visit a subject, there's the difference.

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First of all, great job on the podcast, Sky. I think I'll save its practice though for a time when I'm better acclimated for its use. I feel I still have a lot of ground to cover within myself before I start actively searching beyond.


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I'd like to take a moment and speak about that Allies of Humanity website. Alot of what is talked about on that website has correlations with what I've come to understand from the Law of One series. I'm glad you posted the link, by the way. I've just begun skimming it and I plan on reading further. In return I'd like to offer a link to one of the chapters of the Law of One series that goes along with this subject: Section 7: Moves Coming From Beyond Our Planet

I believe these Allies of Humanity might have relations, or in fact be representatives of, the Confederation.

IV. WHY THE CONFEDERATION WAS FORMED?
RA: THE DESIRE TO SERVE BEGINS, IN THE DIMENSION OF LOVE OR UNDERSTANDING (4TH DENSITY), TO BE AN OVERWHELMING GOAL OF THE SOCIAL MEMORY COMPLEX. (B1, 155)

The Allies of Humanity also state they do not work on Earth, nor do they have direct contact with our planet.

RA: The crafts you call UFOs have not been used by us in your present space/time memory complex. (B1, 94)

Now on the subject of 'Greys' masquerading under good intentions:

RA: Many UFOs seen in your skies are of the Orion group. They send out messages. Some are received by those who are oriented toward service to others.

THESE MESSAGES THEN ARE ALTERED TO BE ACCEPTABLE TO THOSE (POSITIVE) ENTITIES WHILE WARNING OF DIFFICULTIES AHEAD.

This is the most that self-serving entities can do when faced with those who wish to serve others.

According to the Law of One, there is a quarantine established by the Guardians, also known as the Council of Saturn. Further reading on that subject of course is available at the link provided. It also states that the only beings that require spaceships to travel are those in the 3rd density, our current dimension of being. 4th and 5th density spaceship travel is uncommon, and any other species more advanced than 5th do not require material or physical objects for any of their endeavours.

II. HOW DOES THE CONFEDERATION STOP ORION'S SHIPS?

RA: There is contact at the level of light form or light-body-being, depending on the level or the guardian. These guardians sweep reaches of your Earth's energy fields to be aware of any entities approaching. An entity approaching is hailed in the name of the One Creator. Any entity thus hailed is bathed in love/light, and it will, of free will, obey the quarantine due to the power of the law of One. (B1, 124)

What would happen if they tried to break the quarantine?

RA: The Creator is one being. The vibratory level of those able to breach the quarantine boundaries is such that upon seeing the love/light net, it is impossible to break this law. Therefore nothing happens. No attempt is made. There is no confrontation. The only beings who are able to penetrate the quarantine are those who discover windows or distortions in the space/time continua surrounding your planet's energy fields. Through these windows they come. These windows are rare and unpredictable. (B1, 124)

QUESTION: Does this account for the large numbers of UFOs in 1973?

RA: This is correct. (B1, 124)

My own comment: 2007 was a very special year in both crop circle research and Ufology. This trend of heightened encounters seems to continue. Might this have something to do with the Solar System's Heliosphere degrading by 25% in the last decade?

They go on to talk about how ships from the Orion group are allowed to breach the quarantine, to allow a balance between positive and negative influx. Like I said, theres alot of correlation here...

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"I also discovered the UBM Universal Binary Matrix and how they access it to manipulate events to their will."

I would really like to know what this means. Is there a way to stop negative contact/abductions then?

I didnt think a little self-determined exploration would cause such a stir

Drakiir: Opening a thread in which I recommend a meditation does not constitute recruitment. Otherwise thousands of other threads would need to be considered recruitment as well.

As for the dangers: Ive posted disclaimers/warnings but in private I dont really believe positive intent is dangerous.

Some Personal Experiences with ET Contact

In Kindergarden I drew pictures of what I would later learn are "greys". At around the ages of 4,5,6 I was afraid of going to bed, telling my parents I would be "taken away". Various abductions by "grays" (beings with huge black eyes) accompanied by low drone-sounds. These were terrifying experiences and I dont want to go into them deeper here.

At the age of 8,9, 10 keen interest in what had happened and a less fearful attitude. Encounters with benevolent beings standing at my bedside and also extremely vivid lucid nightdreams of travelling to different planets and meeting various benevolent ETs. My father once reported that he was scared stiff when one night he had to use the restroom and saw a shining bright light emanate out of my room.

At the age of 9 first UFO Sighting in broad daylight, looking out the window. A rather huge silver disc hovering above a park nearby.

At around 12,13 the travels and communications faded and were replaced by reading all books on the subject I could find.

Later and up to this day, re-occuring sightings, paranormal events, and positive experiences (dont want to share them here).

Indicators of real physical events (and not "dreamed up fantasies"): Reports my mom and dad shared about my childhood. Drawn pictures. Unexplained bursts of knowledge I had not acquired by myself or through contemporary means. Physical bruises as a child. Eyes-wide-open UFO sightings (I remember half a dozen but suspect there were more).

What I don't understand is that, of all the contactee's out there, none have gotten free energy plans and principals from the ET's and shared them. At least a very simple/cheap and "perfect" battery. Even if you don't understand it, some one else will.

Why not a solid date that will PROVE something is going on, not just sightings but something that would change peoples minds. One that does not just pass or one thats revealed after the fact.

Do I think ET's are demons, no, but they have only been helpful to the govt./mill.

Maybe the ET's want our govt./mill. to be in control for some reason?

They have never contacted me or shown any dancing lights, Sky, do you think they are afraid of electronics engineers or people who can get things done while not being in a controlling position?

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Hi Drakiir,

I'm aware of some of what you went through having read your threads especially about your abduction experiences. I was on the same boat at one stage as you and came to a blind point of not knowing or understanding why malevolent type encounters are allowed to happen. At that point in my life I was looking for an escape and I had leaving the country and hiding as an option but I knew they would find me even suicide crossed my mind a few times because I was living everyday in absolute and complete fear not understanding or knowing why things like that could happen to me and why God would allow it to happen. I was questioning God, life and the very purpose of existence, this is when I was much younger and I was Catholic. It took exactly 23 years to finally get the answers.

I am not alone and many if not most contacts have gone through the same kind of things in one way or another all on different levels.
As a small example I can find online,
Listen to Jim Sparks story if you haven’t already.
CLICK
www.youtube.com...

He went through his own type of hell in the beginning, it turned his life upside down, he lost his job, family/divorce, started drinking heavily and pulled a gun out with a bottle of vodka in one hand and the gun in the other just waiting for the greys to show up and take him. He was planning on pulling the trigger when they showed up. I'm sure you have had close to the same kind of feelings, I have been there myself but not with a gun and bottle of vodka in hand.lol

Drakiir, I completely understand how you must feel, there is no doubt you have had just as terrifying experiences if not more than my own encounters that seem to have effected you in horrible-terrifying and negative ways so I can sense your frustration over this thread. ( I have had some similar thoughts on the subject but I must chime in here because it took me 23yrs to finally have a brilliant encounter that gave me some of the answers, at least to satisfaction of knowing that we are continually being watched over by higher up benevolent beings and there are no coincidences or accidents unless they are allowed to happen.)

Though I understand where your coming from Drakiir and I realize your intentions are of purest nature merely trying to help others avoid the type of situation you and even I were once in. I will just chime in and say that I believe alot of what skyfloating has shared can actually be beneficial to people's awareness. If people can become aware of ET's whether they have had experiences or not or believe in ET’s or not it doesn't matter, it can be a valuable lesson of awareness. Just being aware of it all is what is important. BECAUSE if ET's want to contact someone or abduct them they will and if that person is NOT AWARE or knows nothing he will be 10 X's as afraid of the encounter by not understanding or knowing what is happening Versus knowing and at least understanding something.

Believe me, whatever anyone does to initialize contact will only work if ET’s already had a specific reason to make contact with that person in the first place. Even if your doing it through opening up of the subconscious mind or OBE’s they will contact you if there was reason in the first place, though opening yourself up I will admit would better your odds of them deciding it‘s your time for contact in the same way that an apple is ripe on the tree and ready to be eaten. They make the decisions though not us. Unless someone is in the wrong place at the wrong time ET's won't show up without a reason, and if that is the case when they do you probably won’t remember the experience.

This is what I strongly believe and I won’t pretend that I know it all because nobody does but for those who wish to make contact they can always try and hope for contact and it‘s possible this will allow for contact to happen something like when our prayers are answered etc. Be careful what you wish for though cookie! NOT ALL ET’s are malevolent and in fact most are not but believe me even Drakiir, myself, Jim Sparks and many others haven’t met the real malevolent one’s yet because if we did we would not be around to even talk about it and the higher ups would never allow that type of encounter to happen unless we brought these more rare encounters upon ourselves through human sacrificing or other evil acts of that nature that would attract them and justify them encountering us giving them power over us. Now these encounters are the one’s nobody wants to hear about and they can end up in horror even human mutilation type scenarios.

Drakiir, Sparks and my encounters were from greys that consist mostly of biological laboratory made clones or drone like robots which are basically in short terms-- a living machine to the ET’s that is controlled by them and programmed for a specific assignment by the real culprit ET’s behind the scenes. (Usually Nordics aka/Annunaki related-- A story I can’t get into) They use these biological greys to make the initial physical contact, these beings yet alive like us with computer whizzing brains do not have or show emotions only quick actions which leaves us for the most part at a loss of words and in an absolute state of shock and fear usually always terrifying experiences and mostly because of 1 thing.

WE DON’T UNDERSTAND WHY and we don‘t have control over the situation-- . Most of the memories will be erased for the most part but not all. Sometimes we are allowed to remember and I’m not exactly sure until this day why because some of those memories can be disastrous to our social and even spiritual lives--haunting experiences that never really get away from us. Bottom line I believe Skyfloating’s post has GOOD intention and it makes people at least think about these kind of things and become AWARE so that if by chance IN A BLUE MOON someone does get abducted or contacted they may better understand why it is happening and not Shhit their pants in complete fear, well that part is unavoidable I guess. Lol

But being aware of what is taking place or MENTALLY PREPARED will make all the difference in the world knowing what to expect when your time is due if it was meant for you in this lifetime and at least in the back of your minds you will know they are not going to harm you and you will be returned. (Never forget there are other higher up ET’s who are simply put beings of light known as the angels watching over all of it and will intervene if something is not right.) That is probably the most important thing to know otherwise our natural human instincts kick in survival mode and we will do anything to fight for our lives with panic and that turns our experience into a hellish nightmare that will never stop haunting us with trauma, depression and everything else included.

IMPORTANT NOTE:
Contact experiences usually only become malevolent to us because we interpret them this way. When I use the word malevolent I guess I am meaning that is how I interpreted the experiences at the time because I DID NOT UNDERSTAND or know any better. LOOKING BACK, the experiences seem that way because you are facing a species you know nothing about for a first time and IT’S SCARY. Even if these beings are benevolent IT’S STILL SCARY. So most people out there with malevolent stories are telling you their story from the way they interpreted what happened to them WHICH in most cases is not really the way it happened only from human perspective.. Quick comparison: Think of us pulling a monkey from the wild and caging it up, it will of course and naturally be afraid and the monkeys encounter of us would be SCARY and they would consider us evil and malevolent. SAME THING.







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I didnt think a little self-determined exploration would cause such a stir

Drakiir: Opening a thread in which I recommend a meditation does not constitute recruitment. Otherwise thousands of other threads would need to be considered recruitment as well.

As for the dangers: Ive posted disclaimers/warnings but in private I dont really believe positive intent is dangerous.

reply to post by Skyfloating


Self determined exploration is the most dangerous of methods as opposed to well informed guided exploration the second of course of which I prefer.

Your encouraging people to follow your practices with barely any knowledge of the consequences, and based on pure hypotheticals of 'what ifs' that could happen. Regardless of the numbers whether it be 2 or 10 you have a following of 'willing contestants" by igniting curiosity into dangerous areas.

I encourage you to put this in your disclamer before encouraging this dangerous practice: WARNING: Following this procedure could result in the following: Memory loss, mental trauma, schitzophrenia, states of confusion, unhealthy isolation from the puplic, hermetic lifestyle, and paranoia.

These are not probabilities, if you are taken by a Grey this does happen they are not fiction and I am not 'experimental' enough to say 'go try it anyway'. You should be responsible for your actions and at least put the provided disclaimer in bold on your thread, preferably I would prefer this dangerous activity to be shut down but I will leave that in your 'responsible hands'.

In summary unguided curiosity has consequence and this system your promoting has very dangerous ones at that

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This is the law of the Universe and cant be escaped or changed except by being manipulated by other life forms. I am just aware of it, thats as far as it goes for me in meaning that there is nothing I or anyone can do to effect the will of Greys or other species of Aliens to manipulate this law at will.

One thing a Grey hates is being figured out as they effectively become useless in persuading the victim of their plans. It like anything they perpetrate against the victim, the victim is fully aware and is no longer oblivious to it.

In most cases thats what counselling does for victims of abductions, it helps sort their lives out and sort more importantly fake memories from real ones. I would say from what I went through that counselling is a great way to clarify what can be a confused life when I was in contact with the Greys against my will.

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reply to post by Drakiir


Well, good thing you came to warn them.

I refrain from warning from Meditation because its basically fear that attracts negative experiences (such as the ones you had).

But I did place a warning/disclaimer that if there is any fear or doubt about this, not to use it.

You are also wrong that I dont have any knowledge of this. Ive been professionally teaching meditation since 10 years and concluded that its less dangerous than washing the dishes or going for a walk outside

In fact, there is evidence that Meditation is not only not dangerous but even beneficial to ones overall health.

Im talking about a simple exercise in focus, nothing more.

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I think that by listing the possible effects that can happen can better inform the people as to what they can expect so I think these details are important. I mean what is better to have someone wary of it or go ahead with it and realize the consequences too late.

I was referring to being unguided in the use of this method for everyone who has an 'experimental nature' who this is particularly dangerous for, and there are allot out there.

Im simply trying to reduce the risk and inform people of the very real possibility of something happening. There is a massive difference by the way between normal meditation or spiritual as I do and the type that you are informing people about, mainly in the fact I have no risk of being abducted.

Feel free to attach the additional information that I have provided on the effects of what can happen when an abduction can occur.

Im done for this thread I have provided the appropriate information and warnings against it

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