Colin Powell Endorses Obama

Originally posted by walkinghomer
You are one disgusting person and I call on maria_stardust to remove this obviously disgusting post.

Typical far-left facist liberal response. Anyone with an opinion different from theirs is 'disgusting'and should have their freedom of speech taken away.

I stand by my opinion. Powell waited until he knew for sure that Obama would win the general election and then decided to endorse the black guy. 90% of the other blacks in this country voted for Obama in the primaries and polls show 90% or higher plan to vote for him in the general election.

Powell endorsed the guy he knew would probably win AND he's endorsing him due to the color of his skin.

I don't give a rats backend if you like my opinion or not. Deal with it.

I'm sitting here reading all of this but I can't get past one big hurdle . . . who gives a snapping leopard's jawbone who Colin Powell supports, backs, votes for or otherwise thinks is worthy of his attention.

Personally, I despise it when 'celebrities' and 'big names' come out and say who they support. It's as though they're trying to tell me I'm waaaaaaaay too stupid to figure it all out by my lonesome and really needed their input to help me make up my feeble little mind.

I put no more stock in Powell throwing his support behind Obama than I do kowing that Obama has Homer Simpson's vote.

I think two factors play into this...

Race:
Ok so he says he'sn not voting because of race, but its followed up by telling young african americans that it would be "electrifying to have a black president". Bit hypocritical.....


Raped by the Bush administration:
Lets face it, the administration pretty much bent him over and nobody in the republican party offered to help. He has every right to stab them in the back.

Great video, Leo Strauss. Thank you.

JSR, I hope Powell has a place in an Obama administration as well. I have a feeling he would as Obama is known to ask Powell's advice. I certainly would support it, as I think he's an intelligent, educated and honorable man. And, since he's a Republican, could bring that viewpoint into Obama's mindset. I do believe Obama wants to be president to us ALL and not just to the more liberal half of the country.

Obama Lines Up Cabinet of Stars

Powell is unlikely to return to the cabinet after the mauling he received over the Iraq war, but could serve as a special envoy abroad. He is regularly consulted by Obama on foreign policy and military matters, and said last year: “I always keep my eyes open and my ears open to requests for service.”

theres a lot of racism going on in this thread. It's sad. But people are showing their true colors here. Colin Powell is showing his political beliefs here. He raises a legit point in questioning McCains choice of VP. Hes not the first republican to do so thus far. This has nothing to do with being black white or green. Though it is an easy route to take for an argument as there is no other point to be made.


Sad really. I expect more than blatant racism from an ATS board. If you disagree with Powell's decision, attack his credibility. Please dont resort to having to play the race card.

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Which makes the point that Colin Powell is trying to make the more obvious. YES THIS IS ABOUT RACE! Is about how the GOP wants to scare people away from Obama!

Is about dividing, is about pro-america against un-american, remember?

Powell didn't endorse Obama because he is black. That's just a coincedence. He endorsed Obama because they have been working together all along.

Powell did his part in getting America into the war and with that job well done he has gone back home with his real team. America has been set up, its pretty obvious now.

Why else would Obama want Powell's endorsement? On the surface, Powell and Obama are ideological opposites. Powell was a key piece in convincing the World to authorize the invasion of Iraq, a war Obama has made a point of saying he was against. Remember his speech at the U.N. Based on Powell's career, Obama then also should covet the endorsement of Cheney and Rumsfeld.

And another thing...Why is everyone so certain that Obama is going to win the election? I don't understand that. Is it because the MSM told you so?

Posting this from another thread, did not know this one existed when I commented that one:

This was pretty predictable if you ask me. The race is almost over and he had yet to endorse McCain and he already basically endorsed Obama’s foreign policy. I personally don’t believe this is a game changer or mind changer. I think it is however an example of how being just a partisan Dem or Rep will not do anymore. An influential Dem endorsed McCain and now a Rep has endorsed Obama. I think this shows how important this race truly is; people are turning their back on their own party because they truly believe this is a turning point in America.

I really commend Powell for the statement he made about Muslim Americans, don’t really care who he endorses but he stated very sensibly why that Republican and Democrat mentality toward non-Christians has lately gone against what America is all about.

reply to post by bruxfain


quite an accusation brux. any evidence to this or is it just opinion? if so, i suggest bringing the idea to skunkworks

Originally posted by bknapple32
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quite an accusation brux. any evidence to this or is it just opinion? if so, i suggest bringing the idea to skunkworks

Are you going to contribute to the thread or just critique it?

Anyway. Obama's platform is founded upon the idea of failure in Iraq, and foreign policy in general, and the idea of failed economic policies that have damaged the US economy and credibility.

Colin Powell - life long Republican, until today, Former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs to Bush I, hero in the 1st Iraq war and the Secretary of State, chief implementor of Republican Foreign Policy, who put in overtime to get this current war started and quit the Bush administration shortly after Obama appears on the national stage as a Senator from Illinois. Endorses, a Senator, only 2/3 way through his first term at the national level for President of the United States. A Senator who is also a vocal critic to the foreign policy that the General implemented.

If the endorsement wasn't given based on race, then what is it based on? Is this Colin Powell's way of admitting that he is perhaps the worst Secretary of State in American history? Or was the whole thing planned long ago.

Beyond a reasonable doubt could probably be provided, but I'll settle for preponderance of evidence.

And the plot thickens.

You know FF, this is proof one should never read the original post and hit the reply button before reading what else is added.

I honestly didnt think you would come up with something like that. SO, now that Obama is going to win, you say thats why other prominent blacks are going to vote for him.
I'm going to tell you something, i was teeter-tottering for a long time on who my vote would go to, and i decided on Obama (yes, the Antichrist), because i took a closer look, and decided that he has the demeanor i want for a president. He has good ideas and this country must change, that is, if the powers that be will allow it.
I also said that Dems and Reps were the same. I still think they are , but since i've been known to be wrong sometimes, i am going to vote for change.

I thought the talk was among Reps, that if Obama LOST, it would be because he's BLACK.

My my my~ Damned if he does, and damned if he doesnt.

Anyway, with all due respect to you FF, you did not make the most brilliant move of your life when you voted BUSH x2.

reply to post by bruxfain


im not going to get sucked into juvenile back and forth. You still have yet to bring evidence to such a wild accusation. Sure it makes sense, but without evidence its a theory with no fact behind it. All im asking for is something to back your claim. Is that unheard of on ATS?


The way it stands now, Obama is backed by fmr. sec. of state Colin Powell, someone who is respected among the political community and voters across the aisle.

reply to post by dgtempe


Well put dg. Well put. Nice to see another on the fence mind go obama's way i must say.

I think the timing of this is also a nod to the movie "W" and how he "Powel" was depicted in this movie. It was pretty obvious Powel was a reluctant yet loyal follower of Bush once he saw how he was going to run the country.

Originally posted by bruxfain
A Senator who is also a vocal critic to the foreign policy that the General implemented.

Perhaps you might want to clarify what policy Colin Powell implemented. Powell implemented Bush foreign policy and that was his job as Secretary of State, he obviously had some disagreement with some of the policies and his made it clear to President Bush and gave his ADVICE as his duties where, but at the end the bucks stop with the President and once he makes a decision, it was as you said the job of Colin Powell as SecState to implement them.

Again, Colin Powell can not be held accountable for implementing the policies that Bush wanted him to implement because that was his JOB.

Maybe if Bush had follow the Powell Doctrine instead of following the advice of Cheney and Rumsfeld that resulted in the Preemption doctrine that become the core of Bush approach went it came to foreign policy, we could have saved many lifes, many assets and who knows how much money.

Edit to add:

Lets revisit the Powell Doctrine:

The Powell Doctrine states that a list of questions all have to be answered affirmatively before military action is taken by the United States:

-Is a vital national security interest threatened?

-Do we have a clear attainable objective?

-Have the risks and costs been fully and frankly analyzed?

-Have all other non-violent policy means been fully exhausted?

-Is there a plausible exit strategy to avoid endless entanglement?

-Have the consequences of our action been fully considered?

-Is the action supported by the American people?

-Do we have genuine broad international support?[1]

The fifth point of the Doctrine is normally interpreted to mean that the U.S. should not get involved in peacekeeping or nation-building exercises. Powell expanded upon the Doctrine, asserting that when a nation is engaging in war, every resource and tool should be used to achieve decisive force against the enemy, minimizing US casualties and ending the conflict quickly by forcing the weaker force to capitulate. This is well in line with Western military strategy dating at least from Carl von Clausewitz's On War.

What happens when you have a person that is SO MUCH SMARTER than the others he works for? Proffesional jealousy kicks in and the person gets shun.

Gosh, Colin Powell was so much smart than the President and his entire cabinet combined!


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reply to post by SEEWHATUDO


*McCain already has the public endorsement of 4 former Secretaries of State.


Congrats to Obama on his first.

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by walkinghomer
You are one disgusting person and I call on maria_stardust to remove this obviously disgusting post.

Typical far-left facist liberal response. Anyone with an opinion different from theirs is 'disgusting'and should have their freedom of speech taken away.

I stand by my opinion. Powell waited until he knew for sure that Obama would win the general election and then decided to endorse the black guy. 90% of the other blacks in this country voted for Obama in the primaries and polls show 90% or higher plan to vote for him in the general election.

Powell endorsed the guy he knew would probably win AND he's endorsing him due to the color of his skin.

I don't give a rats backend if you like my opinion or not. Deal with it.

90% of blacks would vote for a Democrat no matter who was running.

The MSM is running around spouting that as if it's some fresh new revelation, when the fact of the matter is the MOST a Republican nominee has ever received of the black vote was 11%.

90% of the black vote??? *yawn*, just like every other presidental election.

reply to post by NOTurTypical


we all heard mccains quote. This isnt about sec. state endorsing. Its about high profile republicans supporting Obama.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
*McCain already has the public endorsement of 4 former Secretaries of State.

Congrats to Obama on his first.

Madeline Albright has publicly endorsed Obama.

I don't know about Frank Wisner, Arnold Kanter, Warren Cristopher and Condoleeza Rice. But I think it's pretty impressive that Obama has Powell and Albright, another person I admire and respect.

is it just me or is anyone else worried about taking our icbms off hair trigger alert in a world where the US is not exactly popular? do these guys want to destroy the country? first they go out and rough house the world, then they stand down and take away our defenses, expecting that others out there even crazier than they are, are not into that whole eye for an eye thing.

oh boy. i wonder what the weather is like in panama.

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