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Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by Vitchilo
So if she doesn't want Eurobonds then what she wants, USDs
just been sarcastic here, perhaps she wants China to step in.
I hope that the rest of the Eurozone do another French revolution and starts taking heads off.
Speaking at a closed meeting of eurozone finance ministers in Poland, he is reported to have told them that the divisions were "very damaging".
The eurozone ministers delayed a decision on Greece's next bailout loan.
Yet they did announce tougher economic governance rules.
Set to come into force for all nations in the European Union (EU) from October, they will make it easier for states to be punished for overspending.
Mr Geithner reportedly said: "What's very damaging is not just seeing the divisiveness in the debate over strategy in Europe but the ongoing conflict between countries and the [European] central bank."
He said that "governments and central banks need to take out the catastrophic risk to markets".
Eurozone leaders will now decide in October whether to release the next 8bn euros ($11bn; £7bn) in bailout loans to Greece.
Despite the apparent disputes over how to tackle the Greek problem, Tobias Blattner, European economist at Daiwa Capital Markets, told the BBC that the talks in Poland were much more wide ranging.
"Sadly enough Greece is actually just a tragic sideshow these days, it is really about how to stop contagion [spreading] to Spain and Italy.
"This is clearly one of the most pressing topics that were discussed today," he said.
Eurozone leaders will now decide in October whether to release the next 8bn euros ($11bn; £7bn) in bailout loans to Greece.
Bank of America Corp. has agreed to sell part of its home-loan portfolio to government-controlled housing giant Fannie Mae, as the bank looks to shed assets and pare its exposure to an array of mortgage woes.
The deal, finalized last Friday, will deliver the rights to process and collect payments on a pool of 400,000 loans with an unpaid principal balance of $73 billion, people familiar with the deal said. The purchase price is more than $500 million, one ...
If Greece is going to default, September 20th seems to be as good a day as any. Actually, it is far better than most to be GD-Day.
Two big bonds, the 4.5% of 2037 and the 4.6% of 2040 both have coupon payments due that day, totalling 769 Million Euro. So if the IMF wanted to avoid letting another billion euro go down the drain, September 20th would be a good day to do it.
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The Fed Scheduled their meeting for 2 days. It now starts on September 20th. Maybe a co-incidence, but what better way to be prepared for new emergency policies?
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We just finished the big finance minister meeting. They can all return home, brief their staff and be prepared for Tuesday. Prior to D-Day there were lots of last minute preparations to make sure everyone was on the same page and as prepared as possible. Why not before GD-Day?
Papandreou cancelled a trip to the U.S. And Venizelos mentioned that Papandreou had to be in Athens for "Initiatives". If you ever wanted some hand holding from your leader, it would be at a time of default. He would have to be in country to calm things and mention all the deals he put in place last week on the conference call.
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There is still a chance we see some bold new initiative or plan, but as I wrote last week, every step and virtually every comment made, for the past 8 days, is consistent with preparing for a default.
It is seemingly clearer and clearer that with the current structure and membership, the Euro does not work. The market seems to be driving the change in the direction of membership changes (via restructurings and temporary devaluations - e.g. GRE CDS and WI Drachma) while the euro-zone-'management' seem prone to structural changes (i.e. EFSF umbrella, Euro-bonds, and fiscal union). While the cost of either approach is likely extremely high, some research from early Summer by ESCP Europe suggests a non-trivial approach that reduces aggregate debt for the European sovereign complex by almost 64% is possible. The solution:- bi- & tri-lateral netting, and free-trading.
The main results were as follows:
The EU countries in the study can reduce their total debt by 64% through cross cancellation of interlinked debt;
Six countries – Ireland, Italy, Spain, Britain, France and Germany – can write off more than 50% of their outstanding debt;
Three countries - Ireland, Italy, and Germany – can reduce their obligations such that they owe more than €1bn to only 2 other countries.
Additionally:
Around 50% of Portugal’s debt is owed to Spain;
Ireland and Italy can write off all of their debt to other PIIGS countries, and Ireland can reduce its debt from almost 130% of GDP to under 20% of GDP;
Greece can reduce their debt by 20%, with 60% owed to France and 30% to Germany;
Britain has the highest absolute amount of debt before and after the write off (owed mostly to Spain and Germany) but can reduce their debt to GDP ratio by 34 percentage points;
France can virtually eliminate its debt (by 99.76%) – reducing it to just 0.06% of GDP;