Orzeml(The Pleiadean) message to our kind

reply to post by smokingman2006

Dont believe everything you hear my Actor friend we are just seeing the tip of this recession the credit card crunch will be the next big drama to play out.

And why should I believe you instead? Give me a reason.

Type “recession bottoming out” into Google and how many pages pop up? Over eight million. And are you telling me that they are all controlled by evil media magnates just to make us feel better?

Credit card crunch? Yep, and to be expected; that’s all over the web too. And once again, how does this tie into “Orzmel’s” message?

Its not now, and never has been, a perfect monetary system; this recession proves it. You are, in my opinion, mistaking human fallibility and greed as something altogether different.

follow by the commercial property market

Already happening here in Ireland; the government now has the power to seize properties from developers who renege on their loans from the State asset agency.

Just keep prentending its all gunna be ok

It is going to be ok. Always has been, always will be.

Show me different, and I’ll believe you.

You are, after all, in touch with aliens who “know the truth”.

reply to post by Beamish



Sure Beamish type 911 into your google search it will give you afew million hits about this lonely arab guy call Bin Laden who attacked America from his cave.

People like you really scare me because you are smart well written yet are totaly blind to the reality of what is going on.

Sheesh

As for me going on holidays if you had ever been to Jo-Burg in your life you would know it is the last place on would choose to holiday.
Just keep pretending its all ok.

Maybe you will get the part of the Annunaki king as your next role

Originally posted by smokingman2006
Last night I had the pleasure of spending most the night in the company of Orzeml And Amizarac I asked a lot of questions and received many interesting replies.

Hi Smokingman. Thanks for sharing your encounter. I have to agree with you that the replies are interesting.

One of the questions I ask was how are we humans perceived by his race?

His answers was that in the last 20 years we have become a race obsess with idolizing pretenders and shallow people.

That is a rather shallow answer in my opinion, its like Orzeml and Amizarac have only seen parts of the west and have transfered these observations onto the entire globe. I would have thought that we humans, or the vast majority anyway, would have been obsessed with finding food, shelter and water. As the vast majority of US humans live in extreme poverty.

I asked him to clarify his meaning of pretenders and Orzeml explained that our worship of what we call movie stars is unhealthy and very negative to our goal.

Yes, of all the observations to make, as an intergalactic being, you would definately address these issues upon meeting a human named smokingman. Did the Pleidians ask at anytime, what are you smoking? smokingman!

He then asks me what I would think of a race that puts money and greed over everything else.......

......blah blah bubble gum philosophy, blah blah, new age philosophy, over simplified observations, .... i'm going to use an imagined external characterisation of the Ideal for humans that are not humans but pretend aliens(see Orzeml and Amizarac.....why do they sound like anti-psychotic meds?) to point out the obvious flaws in WESTERN culture as per the insulated and limited view of an internal member of that culture, an internal member disatisfied enough but lacking the volition to due nought but fantasize and play pretend. blah blah..... continue

Till then human can never expect to have mass contact with other life forms from the stars.
[edit on 17-10-2008 by smokingman2006]

Man, my 10 year old nephew wrote a play about a Chicken who made the same observations that the Pleidians made. It was called Relax Chicken Boy. It puts your thread to shame.

reply to post by smokingman2006


I don’t want to get into the whole 911 thing, but I will say this as to the conspiracy theories; there’s no smoke without fire. Or Thermite.

People like you really scare me because you are smart well written yet are totaly blind to the reality of what is going on.

Stop it with the divisive commentary! There’s no us and them, and by now you should know that about me. We are all in this current mess together, no matter what our beliefs.

Sheesh

Indeed.

And as for Johannesburg; I’ve known people go there, some even live there, and had a darn good time. Wouldn’t do it myself though…

Maybe you will get the part of the Annunaki king as your next role

Now that would be cool.

You couldn’t put a word in for me, can you?

The non-interference, is hardly legal, and if its not openly broken soon, then this large push for disclosure that several experiencer's themselves have said the ets themselves are pushing for, would mean nothing. That part isn't good news, and I'm going to be outside every night yet again.

As for a war, this has been talked about quite a bit, both as project bluebeam, and from experiencers themselves. If these guys go about trying to kill a population of a planet, or the planet itself, this will mean galactic intervention is possible as this breaks many galactic laws. I feel that very strongly. But, someone told me that we're like a small planet amongst many similar planets.
Once again, I encourage everyone to go outside and ask for help. Ask without personal gain, not for exotic technology, but for the human race, the ecostructure and the planet. Considering what we're up against here, I hope they hurry up and sail in.

Originally posted by smokingman2006


He then asks me what I would think of a race that puts money and greed over everything else.

My question to you ( and yes , I wont be reading every page) is simply this..


What was YOUR answer to him? Did you have an answer?
Is it what WE would have said?

Mungo

reply to post by smokingman2006


Smokingman..........hear hear

The part about another more advanced race steping in....well...that is who I have been taking instructions from. They are real and they will make all the others tremble with respect.

I only read your posts in the thread...my apologies to the other people who find this agreeable. I hate reading the venomous and pious posts.

I don't know the outcome, however the fact that our life force can't be extinguished and only our biological units or skin perishes is a fact that many need to grab a hold of...with their minds, we do have more purpose here than mere slaves or miners as some believe.

There is one group in charge of the whole. That is the group we are paterned after. The fact we have been abused by other self serving groups over the millenia or life span of our existance here on earth as humans, will be made plain for all to see.

I am glad at the prospect of this nightmare coming to an end.

To all the venom slingers, your reactions are merely your attempt to pattern your selves after your masters. Should you do some deep soul searching, you will find that you prefer to pattern yourself after your heritage.

Should you be seed of venom, you will inherit your destiny.

The end game is at hand!

reply to post by win 52

please tell us a little more about these being you are in contact with?

Peace & health

It is usually telepathic. When I was younger, I thought it was God talking to me. Now I believe God is plural, as in another race.

Jesus did say if you know me, you know my father. That signifies another group of beings with like mind or purpose.

Only 5 times I have been in their company. It was like I was being comforted in the arms of love. Mostly the communication is telepathic. They make their visits hard to deny.

I have had things take place immediately, based upon the information I recieved. That got rid of any doubt what so ever. The rest always turns out to be true as well.

I am expecting a large event involving a rescue mission made on our behalf, to take place soon...?? No date except one I have been cherishing since childhood, and that is Oct 14....no year. I have not seen it yet, but it is a very important date for mankind. That will be a celebration to remember.

I can't see their stature, as they seem to be beings of light, for lack of a better description. I have also heard a choir of these beings of light singing. Thinking back to that time...in 1984, it still gives me goose bumps, today. The words...not a language we would understand on Earth, but I did understand the intent of the song. It was of joy....Kind of joy for what I was doing at the time and joy for the being who's company I was in. It is hardly possible to look directly at these beings. The first time, I fainted or felt weak. ...well every time. I am usually carried in what is like the arms of Love.

For more physical beings, I have seen skin tight light blue jump suited beings with greys. They seem to be doing something to me when I sleep. There are many times I sit up all night and once day breaks, I fall to sleep. That has been off and on all of my life. I can catch them by staying awake, pretending I am sleeping...kind of in a tranced state. They seem surprised I can see them...then a blue flash...and it is morning...and it feels like I have had no sleep.

This has been going on since I had appendics surgery when I was 14... The sleepless nights.

There has been many times that I seem to know something is going on which is differen't than what they teach in School.

When I try to ignore the light beings...for lack of a better description...they find ways to wake me up to their promptings, kind of like they are preparing me for some event in the future...as yet.

Time is limited as I could go on for a while.

They also seem to have great concern for the way I live my life, like respecting other people and respecting this planet we are living on. They never judge me and are sad when I try to turn my back on them. I think the joy song was when I allowed them back, to be a part of my life or gave them recognition. The best term for this is listening!

How well do you listen?

***smacks forhead in dismay***

I thought we had already debunked this Billy meier/Pledian crap ages ago? I understand this is the grey area, but still....it shouldn't be open season to post confirmed yet recycled BS in.

I've heard these same obvious, bland, generic messages from all sorts of New Age hucksters and "spirit guides" for the last 20 years and more, and the message is the same pointless, obvious, or irrelevant nonsense that could just as easily come from any of the earth's 6 billion inhabitants.

When these "Pledians" actually say something useful, like provide a formula to cure cancer or the blueprints for a warp drive, then I'll actually take this stuff seriously.

[edit on 3-5-2009 by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

reply to post by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf


Who is Billy Mier?

I only have my personal experiences to draw conclusions from. Being here on earth since 52 has given me plenty of experiences to relate to and try to draw some logical conclusions from.

It has not been till 2005, when I had an epic encounter on two concecutive days, did I start to act. I have been looking for similar types of experiences.

I do find a lot of garbage in this board. I can easily sift through with guidance, to know which threads are fabricated. Some have truth and fabrication in them, which makes things confusing for people who refuse to listen.

I did read some of the Billy material...I would question the motivation there. However, there are shards of truth within his material, which means we are being visited by ET.

The Govt's of this world are accutely aware of our involvment with et.

reply to post by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf


It appears this will never end. People are always going to claim to be in contact with creatures from beyond, for attention, for laughs and to feel special. Just do what most of us do when we hear these things, Smile and Nod.

Dude, I can't hold this in anymore, and I was thinking of starting a thread about this, but what they hay. I'll ask here...
Are all contactees of a pure caucasian or aryan nature or something (at least for the Nordics to visit you)???
What the hell do some of us have to do to see them?
Is it because I am 1/4 Spaniard, 1/4 Puerto Rican and 1/2 (uhh).... White (Russian I think?)... Is this all about what race the contactees are? I can't figure it out...
Jeez....
No, good for you guys (win32, Mystiq and SM - who I still believe) - I'm happy for you all... But damn it... I want one of these telepathic contacts so much... Just one and I'll be happy!


[edit on 5/6/2009 by impaired]

reply to post by impaired


It is also strange that the majority of abductees are caucasion and thier version is of white aliens in charge of the little colored aliens. Racism is alive and well even in space. This is a good question impaired, will they answer it or will they sidestep the question. Why has this never been asked before? So yeh..abduction is a white mental illness and rarely affects the other races of mankind. It's only as theory but it makes sense to me.

[edit on 6-5-2009 by Jack_Da_Ripper]

Originally posted by smokingman2006

You rules for any living being is to live and let all others live along side them, nothing more is of greater importances.

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A formula was sighted last night which could solve a lot of our energy problems it will take me afew month to set things up to see how this works but many other things also changed hands but again work is needed.
The bright side is I have plenty of free time right now to work on it all.

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to the poster who asked my aliens do not give us the advance tools to better our lifes

If the aliens where to give us a pocket size power souce that never ran out would we use it to power and heat the homes of the old and poor or to power a nuke or tank?

These are all statements that you yourself have posted. Basically, you claim that the aliens have given you a formula for free energy.

Obviously, it follows that you should post the free energy formula on this website for everyone to see, as proof of your story. Do not be greedy or selfish, we can power the world with clean energy and fix the environment and feed and house the poor. Plus, it will also have the positive side effect of proving that you aren't a hoaxer, which I am 99% certain that you are, because it is amazing to me that you didn't just post the formula or whatever from the beginning if you care so much about the hungry people and aren't motivated by personal greed or selfishness.

So post the formula in this thread as proof for everyone before someone steals it from you for themselves, or stop hoaxing and get out of here.

I'll bet that you'll give some bogus reason about why you can't give the formula away, or you will just stop posting, which will indicate to me that you are a hoaxer. I hope that you will prove me wrong, but I doubt it.


Edited for minor clarifications

[edit on 6-5-2009 by Albastion]

reply to post by Jack_Da_Ripper

It is also strange that the majority of abductees are caucasion and thier version is of white aliens in charge of the little colored aliens. Racism is alive and well even in space. This is a good question impaired, will they answer it or will they sidestep the question. Why has this never been asked before? So yeh..abduction is a white mental illness and rarely affects the other races of mankind. It's only as theory but it makes sense to me.

Not at all! I think it is the case of reports not making it to the western media. That's all. Have a read of this, just one example:
www.blog.agoracosmopolitan.com...

I believe Smokingman. Smokingman, perhaps you should just ignore Beamish? because i don't think anyone bothers to read his/her posts anyways. (I don't)

A channeled message or thought is only as good as the receiver can relate said message to the world is.
We are not radios, in the true sense.

I find most of this sheer rubbish and egocenctric rantings.
Quite frankly.

Peace...

reply to post by impaired


Eat less red meat.... cleanse your body... do as jesus did .... fast ....

That is when it started up for me again in 1980. I was a vegetarian at the time. I was able to start hearing the messages.

Believing them took more time. I had to not heed warnings enough to figure out these messages knew what was going to happen. Only then did I start to understand what the messages were trying to tell me.

That seems to be the norm...they mix questionable things with other personal issues for validation of the message they are trying to make me understand.

It is all about being able to hear the promptings and acting accordingly.

You need a lot of faith to go with it. You have to not doubt yourself.

reply to post by Albastion


I agree. OP, show what you claim to have, if you dare.

Personally I have never idolized movie stars. Have some friends that do and a lot more that don't.

Sounds shallow on an alien perspective, sounds new age to make that assumption.

Wish for once these type of threads offered something new and inventive, something alien, even.



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