Obama Hatred At McCain-Palin Rallies: "Terrorist!" "Kill Him!"

Originally posted by Fathom
has anyone in your family ever served the military? didn't think so

Yes. He had to be born there. I get that. So? That's not the point. The point is that he still isn't a 'natural born' citizen, which means he doesn't "technically" qualify as per the Constitution.

Like I said in the earlier post. I only brought that up because Obamas got brought up. I personally could care less if they were born on Tasmania and raised by wolves for their first ten years.

**Thanks for the tip Whaaa, I adjusted my post accordingly

[edit on 7-10-2008 by Lucid Lunacy]

Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy

Originally posted by Fathom
has anyone in your family ever served the military? didn't think so

What the hell was the point of that?...

That was old #18www.abovetopsecret.com...

OK, I'm going to buck the trend here...

I do in fact hold McCain and Palin and the McCain campaign responsible for this.

Not in a legal sense; I'm sure they are smart enough to avoid that. But to me, after listening to this crap being spewed mostly by Palin these last few days, it is clear that the "he's a terrorist" response is exactly the response they are after.

It's called Plausible Deniability (thank you Ronald Reagan). In other circles, it is also called Incitement To Riot, and is in fact a crime. I believe that McCain and Palin are skirting the edge of this law, knowingly and deliberately.

And the Plausible Deniability part will allow them to be shocked, shocked if anyone takes action based on this fear mongering and distortion.

Yeah, the bonehead that shouted this is of course the one directly responsible. But to me there is no doubt at all that this is exactly the kind of atmosphere McCain/Palin (Rove?) want.

For someone of real leadership ability, there should be plenty of real issue subjects on which to disagree with Obama. That McCain and Palin have sunk to this lowest of the low speaks volumes for their lack of such leadership, integrity and honor.

I find it sad, in a way... McCain at one time did demonstrate such honor and integrity, at least to a degree (being human, he, like Obama or me or anybody else, is not perfect). This recent kindergarten behavior is not acceptable and would by itself be enough to have him lose my vote if he ever had it.

Originally posted by whaaa
That was old #18www.abovetopsecret.com...

yes!! good catch.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that has been studying.

Think it's just another case of the Democrats whining,they can say whatever they want,when someone uses same tatics against them they cry foul or racism,as I've said before just another case of the pot calling the kettle black,and besides I remember driving through New Mexico during the LA riots,people would look at my license plate and have several suggestions for back people,none worth mentioning,could of sworn I was in the deep south

Originally posted by Oldtimer2
Think it's just another case of the Democrats whining,they can say whatever they want

I don't recall Dems saying things nearly as stupid as what is described in the OP. McCain's campaign is scraping the bottom of the collective barrel, appealing to people with demonstrably impaired judgement.

I think when one incites violence one should expect people to react


Obama words

" I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face.
—Barack Obama, Elko Nevada, Sep 17, 2008

I don't recall Dems saying things nearly as stupid as what is described in the OP

buddhasystem----read Obama words... he isn't asking for his supporters to debate peacefully. What do you think will happen when someone gets in your face?

Who really gives a whoop.........seriously WAKE UP there are other problems in this world besides she said he said .

THis site shouldnt support these types of threads.

All of it is just "water cooler fodder" anyway.

To think that either of those clowns is going to do anything different than what has been and is being done is ridiculous.

The power behind the throne, as it were, will be in place no matter who is elected. They simply don't care -- and why would they?!

They're happy to see Americans bickering and squawking about nothing while they rob us blind.

"Terrorist," or "white trash," makes no difference.

I am simply at a loss. At the beginning of this year I had some semblance of hope that things could be turned around before it was too late, but alas, that hope is and has been fleeting.

When things like what happened last week are going down in this country, and both candidates were all over it like their puppet-masters wanted them to be, it's pretty obvious that the system is broken.

I see a lot of people getting all riled up about the election and I have to laugh because they actually think there is a difference between the two.

Our Fathers would be ashamed of us. Somewhere, Thomas Jefferson weeps.

reply to post by RRconservative


i don't have a first amendment to throw away because i'm not american. im not rep or dem so i dont give a hoot about who said what about who.

my point is that if there is dirt to be dug up on a politician of any side, it is the job of the news media to bring it up, not the politician.

perhaps you would prefer to have all pre-election campaigning to have no substance, not policies and no one knows what the hell your supposed to be voting for because all you know is how to slag off the opposition.

its about time that politics became real and accountable for again instead of gossip and inuendo. they run countries for god's sake, not daytime tv shows!

can you tell me what policies either candidates have actually said they would implement?

Here is the video.

reply to post by grover

Originally posted by grover

... What I did say is that when you demonize someone especially to the extent the far right has a tendency to do... then if someone who is either unhinged or extremist takes it as a call for action... then there is a problem... especially if he already knows that there are such thoughts out there...

What about all the crap out there on the internet, grover? It can incite people. So can books. Maybe we should ban books. Oh, and don't forget radio and TV. Better get that Fairness Doctrine dusted off...

I have been thinking a lot about the way the McCain/Palin campaign has turned not only nasty but downright inflammatory. I honestly don't ever remember a campaign using tactics such as this at the level that they are taking things.
I feel that there could be just one supporter of this hate mongering who would take things into their own hands and solve the Obama problem by taking a few potshots with their favorite possum gun.
My first thought would be to have Biden respond to these attacks directly to Palin but not by just throwing more attacks at them than just pointing out the absurdity of the direction that their campaign has taken.
Then I really had a brain storm. You want someone to go after them and act as your own pitbull with lipstick? Promise Hillary anything she wants and let her loose. She has the intelligence and skills to tear Palin apart. Palin wouldn't stand a chance and the Obama/Biden ticket could make them all look foolish by just speaking about the issues.

Originally posted by jsobecky
What about all the crap out there on the internet, grover? It can incite people. So can books. Maybe we should ban books. Oh, and don't forget radio and TV. Better get that Fairness Doctrine dusted off...

Legal Definition of "Incite a Riot"

INCITE A RIOT - Urging or instigating other persons to riot, but shall not be deemed to mean the mere oral or written (1) advocacy of ideas or (2) expression of belief, not involving advocacy of any act or acts of violence or assertion of the rightness of, or the right to commit, any such act or acts.

So, you can express a belief or even advocate something without inciting a riot. But once you urge or instigate action, you're walking on thin ice. And I'm sure that would have to be decided by a court.

I'm actually wondering if what Palin is doing could be considered Defamation (slander) and punishable by law...

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
I'm actually wondering if what Palin is doing could be considered Defamation (slander) and punishable by law...

Oh, come now...

The whole point of two party politics is to defame the other guy -- keep the masses distracted while our country is stolen from beneath our feet.

They're doing a damn good job.

[But to me there is no doubt at all that this is exactly the kind of atmosphere McCain/Palin (Rove?) want.]

Which is the exact same thing they did when Bush was running the second time.

There were so many people yelling KILL KILL KILL the Islamics etc ..after that ordeal that it wasnt even funny ...

Even some of my best friends who are Christian Conservatives (supposed to be peaceful peoples) said they would gladly kill Iranians Iraqis ,...and even Russians .....all because they (Bush etc) got the HATRED BOILING up in the people who wanted them in office ...and because Bush kept saying he was going to find them and KILL THEM ALL >>etc .... ...

I am not for Obama ...but I sure am getting sick to my stomach thinking of what the Republicans are up to AGAIN ..using ...the same sort of HORRIBLE inuendos being raised AGAIN in this election ..just like the last one ..only this time it is directed towards Obama ...

I dont doubt that someone could very well come along and kill Obama just because of these insinuations ..

Makes me sick ...where is a puke smiley when you need one ..


You think the radical islamics have an agenda ..what about the Dominionist agenda of this Administration ..they are SIMILAR ...so dont think they are not...

GROVER - I saw that speech. The people there were VERY badly behaved. I heard the organizers having to yell louder then the rowdies .... telling them to shut up etc. I could see the strain on the face of John McCain. He knew his message (whatever it was) was getting lost due to the activities of the crowd. Cindy McCain didn't look happy at all about it and was distracted by the ruckus. (yes, her face actually moved). The commentators were distracted by the idiots yelling threats and now no one is discussing what McCain said - they are just discussing the idiots. Those morons didn't help their cause (getting McCain elected), they hurt it.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
I'm actually wondering if what Palin is doing could be considered Defamation (slander) and punishable by law...

It's not slander. Its true. Therefore it's not punishable.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Chris Matthews yesterday voiced his theory

Any theory by Chris Matthews is totally corrupt and unbelievable.
He has destroyed any credibility he had.
(he actually used to be a good and reliable source of info)

I can't believe people don't recognize what's right in front of their faces. :shk:

I feel exactly the same way :shk:

Originally posted by Grafilthy
As far as the one who said "kill him".......would that not be a "terroristic threat" charge????? Sounds like a threat to me.

Yes. It is definately a threat and anyone who said any such tihng should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. Definately.

Originally posted by SEEWHATUDO
I think this is going to back fire on McCain

He's already lost the election I'm sure. The only thing keeping his campaign alive is that the ultra-conservative base likes Govenor Palin. Without her his numbers would be in the basement.

Originally posted by FlyersFan
It's not slander. Its true.

I don't know of any indication that Obama is hanging out with Ayers. In fact, I seriously doubt it.

These people in Washington in both parties are sick and corrupt when it comes to obtaining power.

What McCain and Palin are doing is stoking racial flames for the sake of politics and that's sad.

These people want power over your lives and money that they will do anything to get it.

McCain knows this is his last shot at the Presidency and he will do just about anything to win.

When you have Obama called Hussein by a police officer who is introducing Palin and then Palin trying to insinuate that Obama's a terrorist and he doesn't "see" America like most people see America, that's just race baiting and dangerous.

There are buzzwords that racist use on all sides to stoke racial flames and it's sad.

Were those shouting "KILL!" actually Obama supporters causing this stir?

Fodder for thought...