OJ Simpson found guilty on robbery and kidnapping charges

“Justice is like a train that is nearly always late”

Yevgeny Yevtushenko quotes (Russian Poet, b.1933)

Originally posted by verylowfrequencyOJ Simpson is not a scumbag - He is an American hero that really screwed up and probably killed his wife in a jealous rage.

Awww, poor OJ was the victim after all was he? Just a good guy down on his luck I suppose?

Let me introduce you to reality and reveal to you that not only is he a scumbag but he's a murdering scumbag at that. He's had all these years of stolen freedom and chose to do nothing but commit more crime with them. Even if he is innocent of the latest charges (which he IS NOT) he deserves to spend the rest of his life behind bars.

One more thing, are you saying the jury was incompetent because there wasn't an equal amount of men and women and that there wasn't a couple more African Americans?

Originally posted by verylowfrequency
reply to post by chise61

 

Nope - As I said I don't agree with the prosecution and I believe if it had been anyone else it would have never gone to trial.

Kidnapping used to mean grabbing little girls or wealthy folks and taking them somewhere for dirty deeds. Now it means blocking the doorway for more than a few seconds.

Not necessarially, your average joe shmoe down the block with no fame, fortune, or power goes to trail all the time on less evidence than that, you just don't hear about it because he has no fame.


The legal definition of kidnapping has changed, in some jurisdictions the person does not even have to be moved, just prevented from leaving . Even if there was no legitamite reason for kidnapping charges if people were prevented from leaving through use of force, or intimidation (holding a gun on someone is indimidation) then they could be charged with unlawful imprisonment.

This is an example of karma and synchronicity. Follow me here.

So, lets assume for discussion he actually killed his wife and that guy, as he supposedly admitted to a friend who came with the story on Dr Phil show, lol. It was 13 years to the day that he was aquitted for the murders that he is now found guilty for armed robbery. 13 years to the exact day .. 13 years ago on that day he was aquitted.

Not only this, but look at the past 13 years for O.J. Simpson. They've been very negative, and you only hear bad things in the media about him, however occasionally news about him popped up. He had been living in almost a bunker style residence to keep away from people, and had to face the scorn of "so OJ, did you do it?" whenever he went out in public. Clearly these were not good years for OJ.

So essentially what happened here is this. The free will of mankind overpowered what was right and just, which would have been finding him guilty of murder 13 years ago. Because of this, he was set free, however, one cannot escape his own destiny or karma, especially if one creates it for himself through certain actions like murdering people. He essentially created his fate by doing this, and here is where "God" or the spirit realm or the higher dimensions, or whatever you prefer to believe in, comes into play. Not being able to escape his karmic debt, after his 13 years, 13 being an unlucky number which is symbolic, he is found guilty on the SAME DAY as he was aquitted those 13 years prior. That just leaps out at me as too much to be coincidental. And now he's facing life in prison, as he should have faced those 13 years ago.

Man cannot escape his own destiny, his own fate, especially when he creates it himself or influences it greatly through negative actions.

Thus, the free will remains free, and yet all are held to account in some fashion. This is the order of the Cosmos, this is the mystery of God.

One love,

runetang.

Originally posted by Narnia

Originally posted by ghoulardi

At 10 a.m. on October 3, 1995, after only three hours of deliberation, the jury returned a verdict of not guilty
en.wikipedia.org...

wow, Lucky 13.

found not guilty at 10 am on oct 3rd 1995, 10 + 3 = 13.

found guilty 13 years later.

haha... numbers are strange





[edit on 10/4/2008 by ghoulardi]

Not only that 13 years to the day, 13 hours of deliberation, and the police in vegas were called to the hotel on Sept. 13.

And in numerology, 13 is a karmatic debt number! Hmmm, guess karma is a ......

Originally posted by Lucid Lunacy
Killing someone in a jealous rage doesn't get your American Hero trophy taken away!!

This is one of the funniest comments I've read here in a while!

I am so glad justice has been served. He was righteously set up to take the bait on Sept. 13th. Then after 13 hours of deliberation was convicted 13 years of everyone hating him in public to the day.

That is the universe extracting sweet justice. It is as it should have been, he seemed to have his ego in tact but I bet his 13 years on the outside was living hell in its own way. He was forced to experience the fall of hero status publicly.


Have fun in prison juice.

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Just read this post after posting this. My thoughts exactly.

[edit on 4-10-2008 by LoneGunMan]

Originally posted by runetang
This is an example of karma and synchronicity. Follow me here.

Hello, Runetang. Can I ask why people with the most purest of hearts who give all they can to help people also suffer bad luck? When I say bad luck I mean cancer and other kind of life destroying situations.

(That question is not off topic)

I'll say it again. the Justice system is not the revenge system. You dont use the courts of the United States to make sure revenge is served. There was plenty of evidence in this case to give reasonable doubt.

reply to post by bknapple32
There were survielance going on.Have you ever watched Vegas the tv show? OJ was stupid to pull off a crime where everything was wired and recorded. That was why he was convicted.

Not to change subjects here. A real hero is someone who puts their life in jeapordy for the sake of some idea or someone in need. Atheletes are not heroe's. Get real.

On subject, fame, celebrity, and money ensured his aquittal in the past. He now has little if any fame (more infamy) and even less money, therefore no fancy defense team. It is about time he is treated like everyone else.

Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by bknapple32

 

There were survielance going on.Have you ever watched Vegas the tv show? OJ was stupid to pull off a crime where everything was wired and recorded. That was why he was convicted.

the recordings were secretly done by the person who set Oj up for the incident. Casino recordings showed nothing illegal by OJ. this was all brought out in court

Thomas Riccio set OJ up so he could profit from the night. Hence he taped the event.

Again, one has to separate his acquittal from this trial. And I venture to guess thats impossible, hence OJ did not get a fair trial here.

What comes around, goes around.
Hopefully he will be shanked in prison and can bleed to death. An eye for an eye. Make him suffer those few minutes of agony like he did to his wife and Ron Goldman.

And as far as being a hero... If Thomas Riccio really set him up, for money or whatever reason, he's the only "Hero" in this story.

Good job Thomas Riccio!

13 years to the day after his acquittal? Coincidence theorists must be loving that one. How obvious can you get? This was a set-up from the get go whether he deserves it or not, and that indicates that the judicial system is corrupt. Those who think such corruption is actually a good thing in cases where someone thought to be guilty has gone free are incredibly foolish. If the system can set up OJ like this, then they can set up you, your friends or family. You don’t have to have gotten away with murder for people in power to have a grudge against you. What if someone in power is a business competitor of yours, or has a child that your child is going to beat out for quarterback or cheerleader? There are a million reasons that unscrupulous people could have to abuse the power to set people up on criminal charges. If you think such corruption is a good thing, you must not mind living in mortal fear of people in power.

Originally posted by bknapple32
I'll say it again. the Justice system is not the revenge system. You dont use the courts of the United States to make sure revenge is served.

For the most part I don't think the current US court system is either a revenge system or a justice system. I think it's been designed for maximum exploitation.

There was plenty of evidence in this case to give reasonable doubt.

And there was plenty of evidence the first time around to not reasonably doubt

Originally posted by capgrup
Not to change subjects here. A real hero is someone who puts their life in jeapordy for the sake of some idea or someone in need. Atheletes are not heroe's. Get real.

On subject, fame, celebrity, and money ensured his aquittal in the past. He now has little if any fame (more infamy) and even less money, therefore no fancy defense team. It is about time he is treated like everyone else.

Your entitled to your opinion, but I don't need anybody to tell me who was my childhood hero. My hero's were Navy Pilots, Astronauts & Football players for various reasons mostly because they were the cream of the crop, they were known to me and they beat the odds to reach to top.

The genetic cream of the crop of the human population are admired and like it or not that's the way the world works. The smartest people, the most fit people and the most beautiful people will always have the most opportunities.

I admire many human beings and even the ones who fail sometimes. OJ was just a flawed human being like the rest of us. He was and probably still is a hero to many - regardless of how much he is hated by some.OJ Biography at answers.com

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reply to post by verylowfrequency

I admire many human beings and even the ones who fail sometimes. OJ was just a flawed human being like the rest of us. He was and probably still is a hero to many - regardless of how much he is hated by some.OJ Biography at answers.com

Im sorry, but OJ is not just a flawed person. He is an evil, murderous monster with NO regret or remorse for his actions. He deserves absolutely NO respect, NO admiration and NO apathy. But the fact that anyone out there gives it to him turns my stomach.

OJ is NOT a flawed human like the rest of us. The rest of us don't go around murdering innocent people and mock the entire nightmare in a book like he did and go about living his life like nothing ever happened. It takes a horrible evil person to do this.

And his biography is a big fat joke. What he did before his murderous rampage should mean absolutely nothing. He forfeited his right to be recognized as anything but evil.

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I agree the definition of 'Hero' should be more flexible and personal.

For me, a hero can also mean someone that inspires one to become a better person.

Did OJ do this for you? If he did, then if I were you I would feel so absolutely betrayed that a childhood hero I looked up to ended up being a cold blooded murderer.

reply to post by Lucid Lunacy



Yeah, maybe not inspired to be a better person, but a better football player or maybe just wanting to play and being part of a team. All good players take little pieces of those they wish to emulate and incorporate that into their play.

That was a couple decades ago and I never liked OJ much as a sportscaster or in the movies - that was pretty much a joke. Though I have to admit I loved him in the Hertz commercials . So, I guess I can separate his past from his present, unlike many others who never liked athletes like him in the first place.

Betrayed? Nope - I'm an adult now - just disappointed for today, not yesterday. Besides he's the chump doing the time, not me.

I don't like what he did, but I didn't experience his life and the fact is my only perspective is though the media, so I'm writing this from the perspective of the cheap seats like most people here.

People are killing people everyday in the Iraq war and most of them don't even know who they're killing or why, they're just doing their jobs slaughtering human beings in order that unknown goals are met and we've all been brainwashed to accept the killings like it's not different than cutting the grass.

[edit on 4-10-2008 by verylowfrequency]

I think, if anything, sports stars should not be treated like gods, let alone worshipped as heroes.

Getting away from OJ for a second, there's plenty examples of so-called football 'heroes' in Australia beating their girlfriend, smashing glass in their face, or otherwise generally carrying on like drugged and tanked idiots.

They're ordinary people, and the fact that OJ was such a massive star shouldn't excuse him from the law, which thankfully in this case appears to have worked.

And if it was indeed a set up, well, the rat took the cheese.

[edit on 5-10-2008 by mattguy404]