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Originally posted by jritzmann
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I do not have John's footage he shot there, but it will arrive to me soon, and some of what I've seen posted seems somewhat interesting, but it's very hard to tell unless I get it on a big screen and can go through it methodically.
Unlike some would portray, I am not hostile to the case or the possibility of a genuine enigma at the Ranch...as I said in my first post. There's always the idea that these things show up, because people are there to see them.
As of yet though, I can't say I'm all that intrigued by what I've seen of it. If there's better, I hope to see it.
Originally posted by Jeremy_Vaeni
The only thing better than your post is the fact that people gave you stars.
Let me ask you: How many "contactees" claiming direct contact with Pleiadians do you know that weren't scammers or delusional?
How many Pleiadians does it take to come here in open, honest contact to never be seen by anyone but the one person making such claims before you think, 'Mmmmm... maybe there's something fishy going on here.'
Originally posted by jritzmann
Well thats a good Meier argument. LOL...man why do I bother.
But I'm not intrigued enough, so I'll save my travel expenses on what I see as more worthy cases. But really, since you're so able to belabor the issue, maybe you'd take your own advice?
Originally posted by NightVision
Visiting the Gilliland Ranch, that has alleged UFO activity has nothing to do with the Meier case.
Originally posted by NightVision
I have been there. The major players of the ATS team have been there. NASA scientists and military witnesses have been there. Anything else?
Originally posted by jritzmann
I have been in contact with Springer and John, I don't see what business that is to you though. My conversations with them are basically my business and theirs.
Again, more attempts at marginalization. Please, just know when to quit.
Any footage from you? Or...am I wasting my time in asking.
Btw, we'll need your real name (privately if you like) so we can verify in some way that you were at the Ranch, and provided footage was actually recorded there.
Just lemme know if I'm wasting my time asking...I have work to do.
Originally posted by NightVision
Providing you with my real name would not verify that I was there, other than logs kept by staff at the Gilliland ranch.
Originally posted by NightVision
With your busy schedule, you've somehow managed to spend two hours with me on this thread. Its not all in vein though, so don't worry. I think its clear this thread has turned into an entertaining spectacle to behold.
Originally posted by NightVision
reply to post by jritzmann
Jeff, you're a great guy and all, but I'm not going to call up the ranch and have them go through records just to prove to you that I was there. Your line of questioning is backwards. Instead of asking for pictures, you want my travel itinerary. You want my Southwest ticket receipt? What next? A Driver's license?
I'll wait while you come up with a clever response....take your time.
Originally posted by MrdDstrbr
At this point I couldn't care less what jritzmann's opinion is, even if his analysis comes back negative....
Originally posted by jritzmann
Uh, verification is the first part of the deal kiddo, so thats not "backwards". Thats basic investigation (of which us ATS experts stunningly lack according to you) No, you wouldn't call the Ranch, I would, thats called independent verification.
I asked for visual data, and you said you had none. Again sir, you're arguing with no ammunition.
Please just stop, because at this point you've nothing left to hurl at me but contradictions, and I don't need to feed the need for negative attention.
Have a good weekend all.
Originally posted by MrdDstrbr
Gilliland's Ranch has everything going for it - loads of witnesses, neat footage, and now ATS has gone even gone there and captured some neat stuff for themselves.
At this point I couldn't care less what jritzmann's opinion is, even if his analysis comes back negative....
Originally posted by NightVision
Right. Because investigating NightVision is the first step to finding out if the phenomena is real at the Gilliland Ranch. Got it. Thanks.
Originally posted by NightVision
Incorrect. I do have visual data, but it is pictures of serene mountains and trees. You want those?
Originally posted by NightVision
The only contradiction I see is you spending your time investigating ONE GUY who said he's been to the ranch, rather than the footage presented thus far by others.