What Do 9 Of The People Who Voted NO on Bailout Have In Common?

Originally posted by stander

Originally posted by Lebowski achiever
reply to post by mybigunit

 

Ok.. Another one. Gerlach. Jewish is he not? Also voted No.

Jim Gerlach is NOT Jewish. Anyone can tell.
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Are you implying that you can tell if a person is Jewish or not in relation to a crudely drawn cartoon?

Wow, ATS has sunk to new lows...

[edit on 30-9-2008 by Azazelus]

Nearly half of the votes in support of the bailout were placed by those of the Jewish religion? That's quite a percentage.

I'd also like to comment on the name Rothschild. It was originally Bauer but Mayer Amschel Bauer later adopted the name Rothschild meaning Red Shield.

So I dont get it is this a NWO conspiracy, an israeli extorting money conspiracy?

Is the NWO mostly people who say they are jewish?

Why do they claim to be jewish why not all say they are christian to blend into the majority more?

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He is Jewish for sure. Im saying that hes not really Jewish because he funded the massacre of millions of Jews in the name of making money and greed. To me this makes him a non Jew. He claims he is Jewish and has the name but these people have an agenda. I like to link it to the Italian Mafia. Just because your Italian doesnt mean your in the mafia or just because your Muslim doesnt mean your chopping heads off in the name of Alah. You catcha what Im saying. How the Mafia would blow someones head away one day then pray to Jesus the next. Similar with these scumbags.

Originally posted by stander

Originally posted by Lebowski achiever
reply to post by mybigunit

 

Ok.. Another one. Gerlach. Jewish is he not? Also voted No.

Jim Gerlach is NOT Jewish. Anyone can tell.
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I sent a link showing my source he was not Jewish. Yes I do get the sarcasm

Originally posted by Desolate Cancer
So I dont get it is this a NWO conspiracy, an israeli extorting money conspiracy?

Is the NWO mostly people who say they are jewish?

Why do they claim to be jewish why not all say they are christian to blend into the majority more?

Well I dont know this is why we are talking about it. What could it be? Is it Israel? Is it the NWO? Is it part of the Jew World Order? What is it? It cant be a coincidence all of this collusion. Then again it could be as simple as one big greed fest that they all want a piece of at the expense of you and me. It could be these guys want some master Jewish race and hide behind religion as a mask. That could be it also. It could all be a coincidence also. What is your opinion see everybody asks what Im implying Im bringing the facts and asking for YOUR opinions. I have given mine.


As far as why dont they act Christian good question. After the Jewish massacre during WW2 there is a stigma that if you even say anything that sounds bad to the Jews you are a crazy bigot. Example president of Iran. Everyone considers him to be a nut and wants to wipe all the Jews from the earth that is what we hear correct? What they fail to mention is 3% of Irans population IS Jewish why hasnt he started there? If he hates the Jews so much why do they LIVE in Iran. But its a good talking point if you want to push an agenda isnt it? If you want to take over someones oil and need an excuse to go in then why not go in under the premise you are killing another Hitler.

Think of how America was after 9/11 me included. Anyone who questioned 9/11 or invading anyone was un-patriotic in my eyes. Same thing you question the coincidences of 9/11 or question Iraq or Iran or whatever you were Un American. I have woken up since then and now realize we HAVE to question these things. We have to because as I pointed out to Lebowski earlier there are a lot of dual citizens in our government. They are all from Israel. You dont think there isnt a conflict of interest there? Dont want to derail the thread but people please keep throwing opinions at me. Keep throwing questions. I dont think there are coincidences here.
[edit on 30-9-2008 by mybigunit]

[edit on 30-9-2008 by mybigunit]

mybigunit, you have a right to say what you feel and think. The Jews and Israel in particular deserve much scrutiny and are not above criticism. Challenge the first person who accuses you of "anti-semitism" to an old-fashioned brawl and give him/it the honor of first swing. These people who make charges of "anti-semitism" are generally cowards. He won't show up!

This would not be the first time the Jews are used as a scapegoat.

First; today's failure coincidentally occurred at the beginning of Rash Hashana. I am not suggesting that Jewish members of congress had any part of this. It would not be, however, the first time that great crimes have been committed and subsequently blamed on Jews. The subconscious "Jerome Corsi" message is "Blame the Jews". Congress will now not reconvene until Thursday, October 7. Seeing the meltdown and collapse of the U.S. financial system, and the failure of the U.S. government, a two-day congressional stand down will give other nations time to realign and adjust their finances before it is possible to see another House vote. In my opinion foreign economies will been energetically disengaging from the U.S. economy and the dollar in tranches as big as possible without totally destroying the value of their holdings. During that time, with the markets open, giants like Citigroup (not the only one) will be exposed. They have been counting on the bailout. Citigroup may survive but others will not. The ones who do survive will ultimately be corporations that have been in on this plan. Goldman Sachs will most certainly survive. Berkshire Hathaway will undoubtedly survive.

WHAT REALLY HAPPENED TODAY - by Michael C. Ruppert

www.abovetopsecret.com...

According to another thread using a quote from M. Ruppert, he considered the Jewish angle as well.

Just another perspective.

i wonder if there is more of a correlation between yes votes and zionists than there are yes votes and "jewish people".

i think the majority of the " old school" (original) zionists were the one's with malicious intent, and that "most" of the newer bunch either support the "cause" due to the political clout and politics of business, and joe 6 pack jewish Ashkenzai zionists are this way , due to the closeness any people would get that survive a awful tradgedy, or at least are taught the perspective that benefits those who orchestrated this in the first place (at the expense of there "own" IMO, since this latter group (the next generation that comes from the "Mold" of the (origianl zionists) (who are made up of all denominations BTW and tends to use/manipulte/ hide behind the former group IMO. Jewish people IMO seem to be very professional oriented regarding there career paths and i think this is a very intelligent and admirable trait. As well as topic with much ignorance, especially by those who look at "jews" as a evil cabal lol.





[edit on 1-10-2008 by cpdaman]

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Jewish people IMO seem to be very professional oriented regarding there career paths and i think this is a very intelligent and admirable trait

Well said.

They are very good soldiers as well.

I am training a person, Snip, born in Russia, raised in Israel and now a new Canadian. Gotta love it.

He was a former sniper it Israel, now he he being trained in the same thing I do...telecomunications, it, telephony, VOIP...etc etc and he knows his stuff.

Cannot speak English very well but he catching onto that as well.

He is a very, very gentle kind person.

I have had the opp. to meet a lot of the Israel/Canadians as they arrive in Saskatchewan. I have been very impressed with all of them.

Peace.





[edit on 1-10-2008 by whiteraven]

I'm sure this has already been stated, but it can always be stated again...

Yes, Pretty much all Zionists are Jewish.

NOT ALL JEWISH PEOPLE ARE ZIONISTS.

ZIONISTS OWN MANY BANKS IN THE FED AND ARE GOVERNING ISRAEL.

Jewish people have their money in banks and live in Israel.

The 'JEWS' aren't involved in any conspiracy beyond maintaining values supportive of becoming a well paid professional in a respected field. Maybe you should consider adopting similar values if you're not satisfied with the amount of your wealth.

MY POINT IS, TO PLEASE STOP GIVING JEWS AN UNDESERVED BAD RAP.
(no, i'm not jewish - f'in cheap bastards...)lol

Jews are not as evil as most believe. Arrogant, yes....But not evil. Ever bump into one with the beard and jerry curl....You say "I am so sorry" he will shove you back. ! At this point you will want to shoot him in his right eye, but as I have learned....Calm down and remember that he is just another religious lunatic....what the was I saying

Do Neocons and Zionists have anything in common?

I mean besides the pathology of being control freaks.

Do they all speak well of past heroes while wanting to kill present heroes?

Do they all have a form of spirituality but deny the power of it?

Do they build large monuments to people like JFK, RFK, MLK (many others) while seeking to kill those who practice what those three (many others as well) taught?

Originally posted by mybigunit
But this is a conspiracy. Think about who owns the banks and the banking industry. All the Big names and Big execs happen to be Jewish or at least 90% of the peeps. Hell the head of the FED is Jewish. So is it shear coincidence that not ONE Jew voted against this banking bailout? There are around 100 Jews in the house right now and not ONE voted against the bill?

Really?

www.kgan.com...

Congress quiet on Jewish New Year
September 30, 2008 14:40 EDT


WASHINGTON (AP) -- A day after a chaotic vote on a historic financial bailout package, Capitol Hill is largely deserted.

Members of Congress are marking Rosh Hashana, the Jewish New Year.

Congressional leaders are still working behind the scenes today, trying to craft an alternate financial rescue that will pass muster. But the House is in recess both today and tomorrow. The Senate will have no votes until after sundown tomorrow.

Taking off on Rosh Hashana and, a week later, the Jewish day of atonement, Yom Kippur, is a fairly recent practice.

There are currently 13 Jewish lawmakers in the Senate and 29 in the House.

Well, the CBS count is dramatically lower than the one ATS arrived at. Perhaps CBS uses different kind of definition to tell folks apart.

reply to post by Lebowski achiever

reply to post by mybigunit


You guys seem to be getting Jewish as ethnicity, as religion, and Zionism mixed up. This thread doesn't amount to much one way or the other because it has no real focus. You're just throwing around hunches. And uninformed hunches at that.

If all the Jews in the House voted for the bill, so what? If they had all voted against it, so what?

How many other bills have Congress voted on during the past however long? Have you checked the voting records on all of those?

How many Christians and atheists voted "Yes". How about those who voted "No"? Just because someone's votes match or oppose your own, doesn't necessarily mean that those persons are either benevolent or nefarious.

No disrepect to mybigunit, but this thread fails in its effort to deny ignorance.

Another thing, I'd be willing to bet that all the flags and stars given to the OP were given by folks who didn't even vet the OP's statement. Didn't even take a moment to consider what, if anything, was being proposed. Never mind the obvious fact that the OP rests on an obvious logical fallacy.

If indeed the world is controled by the Zionists section of the jewish people , then what better way to make the world simpathetic towards the Jewish people ( mainly the Zionists as this is the result they would have wanted) then to have millions killed ( or precived millions) in WW2 by the Germans who where as it appears were controled by the Zionists. The Zionists have no empathy towards the rest of the human race so for them to have some of their own killed off so the world would feel sorry for them ( ie: you cant talk about the jews...) is right up the Zionists alley so to speak. So in turn they could carry out their evilness out of the prying eyes of the world. You have to remember these Zionists think in long term objectives so a 40 to 60 year plan is right up their alley as well.

a look from the other side of the fence reveals that 23 of the 26 Democrat votes, apparently voted 'No' because they were up for Re-Election this cycle.



also think about this...
a clique may have voted 'No' because the Bailout of foreign banks that are holding toxic American MBS paper was not in the HR3997....


but the payments to foreign holders of toxic paper are included in the new Senate ammended bill, which gets voted on soon.


then watch, if the Senate bill makes it to the House--- watch as many/some of the previous 'No' votes turn into 'Yes' votes.

the bait for the Reps. to switch is the Senate bill raising the FDIC guarantee from $100,000. per person to $250,000. per person/account
~which will sound like a rationale for changing their vote, to the constituents back home.~


a new 'good-friday' on the horizon ?
synchronicity with the new 'pearl harbor' on another past event-horizon ?