China Fakes Reports From Space, page 3

posted on Sep, 29 2008 @ 12:24 PM

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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Despite what people might think, other countries than the US were perfectly capable of verifying the launch, tracking the vehicle in space, and doing the maths to work out where the telemetry signals and voice broadcasts were coming from.

Sorry, but this claim of fakery is a clear case of "american disease" - in other words no way no how can anyone else do something other than the US.

The Russians will have tracked it. The Japanese will have tracked it. The Koreans will have tracked it. ESA will have tracked it, and the US will have tracked it. You can be damned sure that if this bird didn't fly someone would have said something by now.

You know, its sad really. The US does something and its wonderful. Someone else does it and everyone cries "fake". We should be celebrating the achievement and the human spirit, not looking to drag it all into the mire.

Youtube culture sucks.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.

golemina

posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 10:58 AM

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No offense Mr. Moderator sir, but the reasoning you are using in (is it?) 'debunking' critics of the so called Chinese 'space walk' is EXACTLY that used by the Apollo went to the Moon yada yada yada boys.

It's NOT possible because SO many people couldn't/wouldn't go along with a 'conspiracy' of this enormous a scope.

When absolutely everything you hear, read, or 'see' (well more like 99.9%) in your typical day is ABSOLUTE BS. (A much larger conspiracy if you follow my drift).

Of course, the footage was faked... It's the no flubs space program lip-synching equivalent...

It's total BS... but it has high production values!

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musselwhite

posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 11:13 AM

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when i saw the footage, i thought, look at the flag it is blowing in the wind?????? wind? is their wind in space 'cause the flag a flying! ha ha ha ha!

antar

posted on Sep, 30 2008 @ 11:28 AM

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Maybe it is all the lies they have been caught in in the past, but I dont completely trust this.
Check out the man to the left in this video, he is NOT the right size for a Space Rocket engine, Also he would have been FRIED, instead he simply ducks down out of the view of the rocket boosters as they launch.

Also note the light or camera to the right of the "capsule" just before the video ends...

If someone could embed this video for me I would appreciate it.

Also I tried to take screen shots of what I am talking about, anyone help with that also? TY.

Edit to say it is the second video down on my link...

news.bbc.co.uk...

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antar

posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 12:27 PM

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Just wondering if anyone checked out my last post and could tell me if what I see is correct?

zorgon

posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 12:43 PM

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Originally posted by Res Ipsa
The Olympics faked???? Because they used a cute girl for the picture while an ugly one sang? Is that the big fake? the big fraud?

You forgot to mention the fake fireworks

zorgon

posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 12:56 PM

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Originally posted by greeneyedleo
Now grant it, I can not provide any proof....but there are respected people here who know me, and can probably vouch me and my resource.

So, I guess you can take this for what its worth to you

Well I don't know about the 'respected' part...

But I can guarantee greeneyedleo is NOT making this up

zorgon

posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by centurion1211
You personally blow the chinese space mission (and program?) out of the sky and no one has the cojones to even respond.

Ummm it's called we have a life outside ATS and cannot be in every thread

But if she says there was no launch, I would bank on that

zorgon

posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 01:09 PM

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Originally posted by Dock6
And I suspect the US offered to help them in that regard.

Now WHAT in TARNATION would give you an idea like THAT?

China's Moon Mission produced ONE Photo... under much controversy and 'errors' Seems we all just forgot about it... Skeptics touted the spacecraft as "It's going to show you moon nuts are wrong!!"

Where are the pictures? Is the craft even up there? No more news on it at all...

WHY?

Look at the first few seconds of this launch...

news.bbc.co.uk...

If you think that is a real launch... I have some swamp land in Nevada going cheap...

Then on the far shot yeah that's a real one... but not the closeup... just study the flames... looks right out of a 'B' grade Sci Fi Flick

sadchild01

posted on Oct, 2 2008 @ 01:20 PM

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wow , more crap from newspapers like telegrapyh, can they even prove them ...

it seems that western MSM is starting to sound like pravda newspaper of erstwhile Soviet union

Anonymous ATS

posted on Oct, 3 2008 @ 11:27 AM

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reply to post by Res Ipsa

Why are you blaming the US? I can only find British sites reporting on this matter.

Unlimitedpossibilities

posted on Oct, 6 2008 @ 03:01 PM

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Crying "fake" over this is a typical reaction from people who do not want to believe that other nations may be catching up technologically. It just smacks of sour grapes.

Generalizing much?

assuming you lumped me into that generalization, read on. If not, please disregard.

BTW: I fully understand that the U.S. should not think of itself as the omnipotent, omniscient nation of the world.

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The video, when I watched it, seemed similar to a movie. But despite that, the way the guy was moving just looked as if he were hanging from wires.

I believe it is the last 10 seconds of the video...

news.bbc.co.uk...

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zorgon

posted on Oct, 23 2008 @ 01:46 PM

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Have a look at THIS video clip

Watch from 1:00 on Watch how his tether keeps floating up and he keeps pushing it back down

Fake as a three dollar bill

You guys falling for this being real... so gullible

Interestinggg

posted on Oct, 23 2008 @ 02:01 PM

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Why did they fake it then?
Because space is fake and everything is fake?
Maybe we fly up there and bump into a wall?

Gillespie

posted on Oct, 23 2008 @ 02:56 PM

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LOL i didn't know aliens are on the moon with the US, Germany & China! Wow cool....thnx for letting me know. Embrace Humanity's Deception! Star and flag if your with me? Woot.

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zorgon

posted on Oct, 23 2008 @ 03:29 PM

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Originally posted by Interestinggg
Even wikipedia records some fakery surrounding them.

Wikipedia already has this for Shenzhou 7

Controversies

[edit] False news report

A false news article appeared on Xinhua News Agency's website on 25 September 2008, reporting mission events dated 27 September 2008; the article was reported in several mainstream news sources.[31][32] The report described in detail the launch, which had not yet occurred, as well as the process of tracking and data transfer by a tracking ship, and dialogue between the crew members in space. The report was taken down the same day, and when contacted by the Associated Press, a xinhuanet.com staffer stated that it had been a "technical error by a technician."[32]

[31]
www.telegraph.co.uk...

[32]
Associated Press (2008-09-25). "China space mission article hits Web before launch". Retrieved on 2008-09-26.
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zorgon

posted on Oct, 23 2008 @ 03:43 PM

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One WEIRD Twist to all this is BUZZ ALDRIN

According to him the Chinese have already been on the Moon

In the following video he clearly states when the Chinese go BACK to the Moon

Buzz Aldrin - China Moon
www.revver.com...

He is also senior science adviser and partner in Gravwave Inc, a company working IN China on anti gravity tech, possibly with Dr Ning Li, who is missing

Buzz Aldrin: Invest in Nasa to beat the Chinese to Mars
www.telegraph.co.uk...

Aldrin Warns that NASA will fall Behind Russia and China in Space Exploration
www.universetoday.com...

Buzz Aldrin: Invest in Nasa to beat the Chinese to Mars
PDF File
www.rancatore4congress.com...

So what the heck does Buzz know that we don't?