Rapture = FEMA Death Camps?

Originally posted by mmariebored
There's fault in that logic.
If it is true, we all have eternal souls, than an eternal soul cannot cease to exist. But an eternal soul CAN be retrained, if it takes what feels like an eternity................

Err, the eternal soul was created by GOD who is the only one who can destroy it......................

I believe hell is outside of the gates of the New Jerusalem ..And they will not have a right to eat if the tree of life ...and cannot enter the gates of the city ...
Sort of like what it must have been like outside of the Garden of Eden in the beginning ..Which is where I believe the fallen angels and their children lived.The Garden was a protected place from them for Adam and Eve and it would have stayed that way till they disobeyed ...
Rev 22:14 Blessed [are] they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Rev 22:15 For without [are] dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

[edit on 30-9-2008 by Simplynoone]

Originally posted by Simplynoone
.........and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

How about, "Whoever is stupideth enough to believeth a lie and cannot thinketh withouteth a booketh."



[edit on 30-9-2008 by mmariebored]

Originally posted by Simplynoone
You know I had a dream once about the Rapture ..
I was looking at the earth close up and at an angle ..
It looked like night time (the sun wasnt shining) it could have just been symbolic though of a darkened world ...like in the end times like we are now.
Anyway ..I saw people curled up asleep kind of floating as if in water or space.
But everyone was connected with an umbilical chord to the earth ....all of a sudden several of those peoples chords just broke off at the end and they floated up instantly .....I looked around and there were alot of people still asleep and still had the umbilical chord connected ...end of dream..

Wow. And I thought my fantasy was sick...

I see this dream meaning this .......those who are connected to the umbilical chord are people who are OF the world and worldy..they are bound by the fleshly (Their choice ) ..the ones who disconnected and floated up are those who are spiritual and are in this world but not OF It ......They were FREED (Raptured in the air to meet the Lord) from the bonds of the earth ..
From Flesh to Spirit ....it will be complete when the Lord calls us up to him.In a twinkling of an eye we shall be changed from corruption(our connection through the umbilical cord ) to incorruption (Cord is broken and we are freed to go with the Lord) ..........

...but to turn around and say this...you win...you're a sicker fantasy maker than me.

I would not serve a God who puts his seed on this earth just to torment the seed, tell them not to enjoy the earth he planted them on, then tell them the only way to be truly happy and free is if you're dead...that's sick. I'm sorry but that's sick.

I believe that Marie really needs some love ...(((((MARIE)))

Calm down ..this isnt a contest ..
Are you ok ?

Originally posted by Simplynoone
I believe that Marie really needs some love ...(((((MARIE)))

Calm down ..this isnt a contest ..
Are you ok ?

Dogma frustrates me. What you see as light looks like darkness to me and what I see as light looks like darkness to you. It's frustrating, is all.

Have you ever considered that you are frustraited because maybe your perception of it may have them backwards ?

Originally posted by Simplynoone
Have you ever considered that you are frustraited because maybe your perception of it may have them backwards ?

Have you ever considered that maybe YOU have everything backwards? I highly doubt it. I doubt you've ever looked past your booketh for answers.

Originally posted by mmariebored

Originally posted by Simplynoone
Have you ever considered that you are frustraited because maybe your perception of it may have them backwards ?

Have you ever considered that maybe YOU have everything backwards? I highly doubt it. I doubt you've ever looked past your booketh for answers.

Seek God he will provide answers for you in many ways, the bible and elsewhere, but, the answer may not be what you expected..........

Originally posted by heliosprime

Originally posted by mmariebored

Originally posted by Simplynoone
Have you ever considered that you are frustraited because maybe your perception of it may have them backwards ?

Have you ever considered that maybe YOU have everything backwards? I highly doubt it. I doubt you've ever looked past your booketh for answers.

Seek God he will provide answers for you in many ways, the bible and elsewhere, but, the answer may not be what you expected..........

I've known God all my life and he does not NEED a book to give answers.
If you need a book(the Bible) to talk to God, how did the people who wrote the Bible talk to God? You're never going to be able to truly "hear" God talking to you until you stop checking with your book to make sure it's really God. See, that's part of the control technique used with the Bible, they tell you that it's not God if it contradicts with the Bible...OF COURSE THEY WOULD SAY THAT!! How else would they keep you from asking too many questions and keep you locked in one book's cultural ideology only?


Also, heliosprime, a little tip from here:

The ellipsis (…) is used to indicate the place in a passage where material has been omitted or a thought has trailed off.

Any more than three periods indicates:
1)obnoxiousness
2)mental immaturity
3)grammatical ignorance

No thanks necessary. Just trying to help a guy out.

Marie I am not the one who is frustraited ...

So you would suggest taking off on a trip without a map to help you get there ?


Marie who is the THEY you are talking about ?
I can assure you that NO ONE CONTROLS ME ...



[edit on 1-10-2008 by Simplynoone]

Originally posted by Simplynoone
Marie I am not the one who is frustraited ...

So you would suggest taking off on a trip without a map to help you get there ?


Marie who is the THEY you are talking about ?
I can assure you that NO ONE CONTROLS ME ...



[edit on 1-10-2008 by Simplynoone]

Simply...all of your answers revolve around Biblical ideology. Of COURSE you're not "frustrated", you've accepted that this book has all the answers so you've stopped looking. That's lazy, by the way. Leaving it all up to others(in your case, the writers of the bible) to find all the answers. People who actually go out and find the truths(scientists, for example), who do the research, who question the dogma, who've sacrificed their social life going against the current, often find themselves "frustrated" because of the mental fatigue caused by pulling all the weight while "believers" sit there happily in their dogma believing they have all the answers already.

It's no wonder "believers" are so "persecuted".

The Holy Tribunal in Galileo's condemnation states: "The proposition that the sun is the center of the world and does not move from its place is absurd and false philosophically and formally heretical, because it is expressly contrary to the Holy Scripture.
The proposition that the earth is not the center of the world and immovable, but that it moves, and also with a diurnal motion, is equally absurd and false philosophically, and theologically considered, at least erroneous in faith."

The Roman Curia promptly banned and confiscated Galileo's monumental work; and it became the basis for his second trial, censure, and lifetime house arrest by the Holy Office of the Inquisition in 1633. The Roman Catholic Church convicted him of breaking his agreement of 1616 and of teaching the Copernican theory as a truth and not a hypothesis. They suspected him of holding heretical opinions condemned by the Church, which they ordered him to abjure [abandon a false opinion]. Seven of the ten Cardinals presiding signed his condemnation.

Sometimes being RIGHT is "frustrating"...

I'm sorry to be so nieve but please help me. How does FEMA get into this position when it took the 5 days to deliver water to the super dome after the hurricanes in Louisiana? If they take 5 days to deliver water it will take a hundred years for them to build camps not to mention organize transport of those unfortunate enough to be on a list and be assigned to a death camp or whatever. FEMA is as impudent as an old man who forgot his Viagra.


OOHHHH PS if like in biblical statements the rapture is to come as a thief in the night and the one second two will be in the field the next one will be in the field then how does FEMA or any governmental agency calculate into this scenario. Our governments can't even decide not to decide on a bill of legislation without an entire session of congress passing and only in the last seconds of the 11th hour then they say we can't decide if we should decide.

[edit on 1-10-2008 by Beelzabub]

[Simply...all of your answers revolve around Biblical ideology. Of COURSE you're not "frustrated", you've accepted that this book has all the answers so you've stopped looking. That's lazy, by the way. Leaving it all up to others(in your case, the writers of the bible) to find all the answers. People who actually go out and find the truths(scientists, for example), who do the research, who question the dogma, who've sacrificed their social life going against the current, often find themselves "frustrated" because of the mental fatigue caused by pulling all the weight while "believers" sit there happily in their dogma believing they have all the answers already. ]

Well then I guess you have not been reading my posts ...because I am 48 years old and have read up on EVERY belief ...(Including some Scientific ones) .I have also LIVED through MUCH ...I have also been pretty much booted from some Churchs ...because I told them in so many words that the bible says WE ARE FREE not some religious drones who are supposed to sit up under men who believe they have all the answers (Preachers etc) >.The word told me that I HAD NO NEED FOR MAN TO TEACH ME >.but that the HOLY SPIRIT of GOD would teach me ..and so it was ....The word is my MAP and my Direction book ...and the spirit of God within me is my TEACHER ...
And I can assure that I am no where near LAZY ...
And I am not frustraited because I found what I was looking for .. I dont understand everything and I believe we wont understand EVERYTHING .. ....but I do have a basic understanding of the word and the Lord God of heaven ..and what is expected of me as a Believer in him .....while I am here on this earth ...
I am content with where I am and looking forward to where I am going from here ...I have inner peace and have so much joy and love in my heart that it overflows .....I love ALL PEOPLE and I pray for all who are FRUSTRAITED that they too will find that peace and joy and love that I believe I found (I went through alot to find it Marie ...I can tell you without a doubt that it is real)

reply to post by NeverSurrender


No, the rapture describes the disappearance in 'the twinkling of an eye' and the people who are taken are promised to 'be spared from the wrath that is to come upon the whole world.' Being taken to camps a little at a time is not in the twinkling of an eye and we certainly aren't saved from any harm if we're being sent to death camps. Furthermore, we are all 'changed.' Being sent off to death camps is not an instant change.

Originally posted by Simplynoone
Well then I guess you have not been reading my posts ...because I am 48 years old and have read up on EVERY belief ...(Including some Scientific ones) .I have also LIVED through MUCH ...I have also been pretty much booted from some Churchs ...because I told them in so many words that the bible says WE ARE FREE not some religious drones who are supposed to sit up under men who believe they have all the answers (Preachers etc) >.The word told me that I HAD NO NEED FOR MAN TO TEACH ME >.but that the HOLY SPIRIT of GOD would teach me ..and so it was ....The word is my MAP and my Direction book ...and the spirit of God within me is my TEACHER ...
And I can assure that I am no where near LAZY ...
And I am not frustrated because I found what I was looking for .. I dont understand everything and I believe we wont understand EVERYTHING .. ....but I do have a basic understanding of the word and the Lord God of heaven ..and what is expected of me as a Believer in him .....while I am here on this earth ...
I am content with where I am and looking forward to where I am going from here ...I have inner peace and have so much joy and love in my heart that it overflows .....I love ALL PEOPLE and I pray for all who are FRUSTRATED that they too will find that peace and joy and love that I believe I found (I went through alot to find it Marie ...I can tell you without a doubt that it is real)

The only reason I even respond to any of your posts, Simply, is because I HAVE read many of your posts and I believe you(at least, that you believe in what you're talking about) and you seem to have no ulterior motives for what you say.

I do have inner peace, love and joy. Very much so.

Just because I fight for truth and try to put a damper on people's unrealistic fears, doesn't mean I myself have any frustrations concerning the issues at hand. Don't be mistaken. I'm only trying to set other people's mind at ease because I, too, love all people and wish for their inner peace.

reply to post by Simplynoone


I have no design on Theology I'm more stating that this doesn't make since......The agency named is inept and can't even do the job they are charged with now. I as a holder of a Doctorate in Theology will be the first to admit that theology is the oldest name for the condition called hypocrisy and ignorance.

reply to post by mmariebored


Yes I do believe in my post FEMA can't handle simply delivering water, how can they run concentration camps and beyond that organize the transport of the large numbers of people who are supposed to be marked for interment in those camps, they are useless now how will they be helpful in this capacity.

Originally posted by Beelzabub
reply to post by Simplynoone

 

I have no design on Theology I'm more stating that this doesn't make since......The agency named is inept and can't even do the job they are charged with now. I as a holder of a Doctorate in Theology will be the first to admit that theology is the oldest name for the condition called hypocrisy and ignorance.

Say what ? Could you break that down in simple terms for me to understand what your saying ?

Say what ? Could you break that down in simple terms for me to understand what your saying ?

Basically with all I learnt I think the Theological approach is in it's self a trap.
By that I mean anything can be tweaked to fit a so called prophecy if you look at it long enough and apply a skewed value that benefits your position. The other half of the trap is if you can't explain or fit it into your theology's edict just so then you debunk it, and all the while nothing is true.

That is except the fact FEMA is a proven inept agency who misplaces relief funds and can't deliver water. Now how can they run concentration camps.
They can't find their butt with three men and a road map to help them.