Timewave Zero - a closer look

Originally posted by ShadowFC

I did a quick search and found this:

"13000 BC: Beginning of the Holocene extinction event."

The closest thing I could find to the 967,000 BC date is this:

"950000BC An alteration in the Earth's magnetic field occurred."

It's a bit farther off, but still relatively close. Very interesting stuff from this program.

Interesting indeed & great find. Those are more than likely the events that contributed to the levels of novelty during those periods of time. Remember as you go back in time along the timewave, events can take place over epochs rather than just a few days like we experience now. So then the exact dates aren't as necessary for an extinction event as they are of an economic collapse or the rise of a new global government.

Likewise, I've had a look into the not-so-distant future towards the next shift (June 23-26) and noticed it coincides with events of 1788:

en.wikipedia.org...

Most notably from that year:

January 26 - Australia Day: Eleven ships land in what will become Sydney, Australia. Great Britain establishes the prison colony of New South Wales, the first permanent European settlement on the continent.

April 13 - America's first recorded riot

March 21 - Great New Orleans Fire (1788) kills 25% of the population and destroys 856 buildings

June 7 - France: Day of the Tiles, which some consider the beginning of the French Revolution.

Originally posted by JohnnyR

...So, it looks like time isn't necessarily speeding up, but the same amout of events happen in increasingly smaller time frames. Am I correct so far?

Correct, for the most part. The amount of change is speeding up. Technological progress is speeding up. The speed at which information reaches you is accelerating. And the anticipation of an approaching breaking point is becoming more prevalent in the mass consciousness. All the above leads to our perception of time being progressively altered and manipulated to match the change we see around us. If in fact time is a factor of the human experience invented by our perceptions, them it may actually speed up as well along with our cognition.

I have a theory, maybe another way to understand whats going on here, but before I just shoot it out there and look foolish, I have a few questions:

a. How far back can you set the starting point. For example can you plot 16.4 Billion years ago?

It tracks the entire history of consciousness (at least in this region of the universe), which means it tracks Gaia Earth consciousness, Sun consciousness, and now human consciousness. The graph shows that all is connected and the human micro process coincides with the macro processes of planetary and stellar bodies (or larger). The rhythm at which our history plays out matches the rhythm of the Sun and Moon, and perhaps the galaxy and even the universe itself. That is why the Sun's anomalous behavior recently is happening precisely at this point in human history - both 'entities' are reacting to one another in some unknown way.

b. Is there a relationship between each time period the pattern shows up, for example; does it have a consistant multiplier in that everytime is shows up it's 50 times smaller period of time between the two times it shows up?

I'm not sure what factor of compression leads to each subsequent resonance level - that I will have to look into. I assumed it might be something similar to a fibanacci spiral, and whatever the factor may be, it leads to exponential change near the end.

c. can you plot 16.4billion years ago, 820million years ago, 41million years ago, 2million years ago, 102,000 years ago 5125 years ago(3115BCE), 254 years ago (1755AD), June 5th 1999, and February 10 2011? To see which patterns show up for those dates.

Yes, the below image is from that timeframe. That section is also repeated in prior timewave sections, and that date follows another massive dip into novelty that will make last Sept/Oct until now seem insignificant in comparison.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/89e7ff98e424.jpg[/atsimg]

The things I struggle with is if at one point in the future we are going to figure out time travel then wouldn't that be like a loop for us. Once it exists to time travel then it always existed that we time traveled time of thing.

I'm still very curious about this Fridays event according to this theory.

Any idea's? I'm almost thinking something with Israel and Iran could be very likely.

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Time travel is one of the things that Terrence McKenna mentions as a possibility for the graph hitting zero in 2012. Once it is discovered, the entire system is no longer valid.

Originally posted by Evasius

If the software was re-created today properly, it would most certainly be 3-dimensional, interactive, and linked live with news events. One major upgrade would be the ability to zoom in on the zero point in order to get a better idea of what zero actually entails – not that it is a lack of data, but that in is comprised of all available data.

Another idea would be to set up a distributed computing project designed to better explore the infinite ‘rabbit hole’ of zero point.

List of distributed computing projects

Awesome. It will be interesting to see if programmers take this kind of computing to a new level. When you think about it, constantly updating the timeline based on real-time news events would almost take an AI capable of sifting through all that data. Since the economy seems to be a big factor as far as the timeline also, the software could even be programmed to constantly monitor real-time stock market activity in the U.S. and abroad. The AI could even give you email and text message updates on any significant projected events on the timeline since it would always be updating/changing. Interesting.

The problem I can foresee with a computer program monitoring real-time media events is that without an AI to know what to do with that information and how to always update the timeline and project new outcomes, it would almost be futile. It would also be extremely expensive. Without some significant funding from research grants it wouldn't really get off the ground. Not a whole lot of people take this stuff seriously either and that is the big problem. Noone would normally justify dumping research grants into this kind of computing/supercomputing without broad support and interest from the public at large.

The good thing is that there are ways around all this..
You could, theoretically, use the "distributed computing" method you have mentioned and linked to. The biggest hurdle would be writing the software and figuring out ways to integrate all the processing features you mentioned as far as media developments. And doing all that without making the software too data-intensive to handle the information it needs to.

The other good thing is "Moore's Law". Computer technology is constantly progressing and becoming cheaper as the newer technology becomes publicly available. Therefore, the more time that goes by before such new software is created the better computers we will have in that same price range. Nothing wrong with more bang for your buck (Or should I say, MOORE bang for your buck !). So even if it did take a few years to get off the ground it might be better in the long run. Powerful computers are not that expensive these days either though (or at least current technology compared to what we've had in the past).

-ChriS

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Has anyone else noticed that the resonance of the time we're are in right now is the late 1700s (1776) and that it was the time of the American Revolution... and right now Thailand is in the midst of a revolution of sorts.

look here to see what i mean, if you didn't know about it.
thaicrisis.wordpress.com...

Also, in terms of the technological boom, check this out. He talks about fast technology is advancing and how it is doing so at an exponential rate. Nanotechnology is going to change the world as we know it and within our lifetimes, we will being to merge with our machines.
www.youtube.com...


[edit on 13-4-2009 by RazorX]

Originally posted by whoshotJR
The things I struggle with is if at one point in the future we are going to figure out time travel then wouldn't that be like a loop for us. Once it exists to time travel then it always existed that we time traveled time of thing.

I'm still very curious about this Fridays event according to this theory.

Any idea's? I'm almost thinking something with Israel and Iran could be very likely.

One thing I've come to realize is that major peaks and troughs along the timewave rarely mark one single event given how much is happening at any given moment. It is correct that major events do happen on major peaks (before the shift downwards), however the entire peak of the timewave that we're ascending now carries with it the resonance of revolution. The reason it appears as a peak and stands out noticeably from the surrounding graph is that multiple instances or revolution are taking place presently. The perception I'm getting of this moment is time is revolution and change, and that is more than likely true for anyone else aware of what's going on in the world right now. Sure some specific event might happen which helps build the peak and contributes towards the feeling of change, but the timewave measures the collective emotion surrounding periods of time, and it's always changing.

So if used in the present, it should mirror your perception of the state of the world. If the line is flat, the world feels a little stagnant. If the line is sharply ascending, the collective tension is building towards whatever events occur to release that tension. If it is descending sharply, you'll find yourself dealing with whatever changes have just taken place. Likewise, if this program is used in the past in order to see the future, it will let you know when great change is likely to take place and will give you some idea as what to expect.

The timewave isn't an oracle. What's spectacular about the timewave is that it illustrates the fact that time and our conscious perception of it seems to follow a predetermined path. This doesn't mean that our futures are mapped out, but that we have free will to choose what happens along the graph. It just means that the fundamental basis for our collective experience follows guidelines much like our biology follows the guideline of genetics.

Originally posted by RazorX
Has anyone else noticed that the resonance of the time we're are in right now is the late 1700s (1776) and that it was the time of the American Revolution... and right now Thailand is in the midst of a revolution of sorts.

look here to see what i mean, if you didn't know about it.
thaicrisis.wordpress.com...

I agree, I first mentioned that here on page 8:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

It started off with the G20 protest, then led to the announcement of a 'New World Order.'

Gordon Brown Announces 'New world order is emerging' At G20

Post-G20 new 'New World Order' holds many mysteries

Tea parties are scheduled for this week in protest over a 'fundamental disagreement over government’s role.'

Tea Party U.S.A.: The movement grows

Tax Day Tea Party

Then of course, as mentioned above, we have yet another protest against the government in Thailand, the third in about 8 months. (I found myself amidst the first protest while visiting the country last August where I got to witness first hand how an organized, massive, and steadfast protest is actually held. I was stuck in the country for 5 days while the airports were overtaken by protesters). Each subsequent protest has been larger and more violent.

Thai Ex-PM Urges Revolution

Political violence intensifies in Thailand

Additionally, there is the situation in Fiji, where the government effectively became a military dictatorship on April 9. A court found the government illegal, and instead of the administration being replaced, the president 'sacked the judges, dissolved the constitution, ruled out any election for five years and briefly removed the military leader before reappointing him to the top job.'

"This was all a total charade, just a hoax that spits in the face of democracy," said Professor Brij Lal, a Pacific specialist at the Australian National University.

"Fiji is in serious danger of becoming the next Burma, where the military has entrenched itself with a sham kind of parliament and pays no heed to international opinion over many, many years."

Fiji at risk of becoming 'next Burma'

And in Sri Lanka, protests are being organized in numerous places (incuding here in Sydney outside of the Prime Minister's residence) to protest the 'genocide' of innocent civilians in the conflict zones:

Sri Lankan Tamils organise protest in many countries

And it goes on and on. Just think about what's not being reported...and then to top it all off, we've got pirates all over the news. What says revolution better than 'pirates.'

Hostage rescued in high seas shootout

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/5b45cf5e6f95.jpg[/atsimg]

Revolution!

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In addition to the examples you mentioned, both Georgia and Moldova have been experiencing riots and protests recently. Revolution is definitely in the air at this point in time.

Originally posted by Karlhungis
reply to post by whoshotJR

 

Time travel is one of the things that Terrence McKenna mentions as a possibility for the graph hitting zero in 2012. Once it is discovered, the entire system is no longer valid.

I get that but what I have struggled with is if we eventually get to time travel then we have always been able to time travel because it would make a loop. Its an odd point i'm trying to make but I just see it as a paradox, if time travel will be possible for us someday then its already here now because it would loop back on itself. I guess that would fit into some of the theories about us going back in time to visit ourselves.

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and to post by John Matrix


*regarding the zero point and how McKenna arrived at his conclusion*

According to a recording I found from April 14, 1985 where he discusses the Timewave program and how it came to be, he mentions his original conclusion about the pending zero point and why he chose the then skew it forwards to coincide the the Mayan end date.

His original date was the dawn (around 6am) of November 16, 2012 which occurs 67 years and 104.5 days after the Hiroshima bombing. After he reached that conclusion, he then discovered it came very close to what the Mayans beleived to be the end of their calendar (the end of baktun 13).

I put together the following video using that voice recording. Instead of leaving it as an mp3, I put some visuals with it. (***FYI click HQ 'High Quality' because there are a few graphs, etc).



[edit on 14/4/09 by Evasius]

Originally posted by Evasius

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/5b45cf5e6f95.jpg[/atsimg]

[edit on 13/4/09 by Evasius]

Quite the image, almost seems like science fiction.

I think the 17th has something in store. And not just the 17th, but the middle of this month.

My initiation to the zero point and all of this stuff was Gregg Braden waaay back in the day. A great book if you have ever had the pleasure.

video.google.com...

Originally posted by whoshotJR

I get that but what I have struggled with is if we eventually get to time travel then we have always been able to time travel because it would make a loop. Its an odd point i'm trying to make but I just see it as a paradox, if time travel will be possible for us someday then its already here now because it would loop back on itself. I guess that would fit into some of the theories about us going back in time to visit ourselves.

There are a few theories about time travel that are not paradoxical. One idea is that you cannot travel back further than when the first time machine is turned on. Another is that by traveling through time you are actually crossing into a parallel time/universe that is similar to our timeline up until the point that you arrive in it. Your act of being brought into that timeline changes it from it's original path and thus any changes you make have no effect on the timeline you left.

Another idea of Mckenna was that if the first time machine gets turned on and it's true that things can only travel back as far as that, then when it gets turned on massive amounts of information from the future would come flooding back, thus advancing our knowledge even faster than ever possible before. If you consider how fast it's going already, consider what a civilization much farther in the future would be able to tell us. That is supposing that planet earth can solve it's problems before we or something else destroys us.

Thai protesters end Govt House siege peacefully

news.yahoo.com...

Though, they do say they'll be back...

The "red shirts" vowed to return, however. "This is not the end. We'll be back. Our leaders will meet after Songkran to discuss our next move," one protest leader, Nattawut Saikuar, told Reuters.

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Hmm I'm even more interested now. Thanks for that bit of info.

Off to Google and find more stuff by this guy. To bad he died before he got to see the outcome of his project.

If we eventually invent a way to time travel, and it does "reset" everything. Or as someone else suggested, once its invented it will have then been always here. If that is true, wouldn't we have it now from the future?

Or maybe this is an indication that we will never be able to invent it otherwise we would already have it.

Originally posted by JohnnyR
Is there a relationship between each time period the pattern shows up, for example; does it have a consistant multiplier in that everytime is shows up it's 50 times smaller period of time between the two times it shows up?

If you want to go from cycle to cycle, the factor of 64 is used (the number used in the I Ching). If you want to get the lenght of future cycles, divide the current one and then each subsequent one by 64. Otherwise multiply the current one by 64 to get the length of the previous one.

See the comparison below:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/44635b01bb7c.jpg[/atsimg]

We are currently at the end of the 67.29 year cycle (see my signature for the exact location). Here is another image illustrating the spiral overlay contributing to the repetitive nature of our experience.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/5094bf97eed7.jpg[/atsimg]

If history plays out in a spiral fashion, then like resonances could be lined up along the spiral to get the repeating patterns. The past would reside along the outer spirals, and as time progresses, the present would move closer and closer to the center of the spiral approaching the end point in the middle. Here is another way of looking at the timewave:

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/c5fbbbd5473f.jpg[/atsimg]

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A new time for just us or the rest of the cosmos? It seems like there would be multiple clocks ticking here and there and everywhere....

reply to post by pluckynoonez


The information this theory is based on is (as far as i can tell) only specific to our solar system. The timewave is our calendar, all other stars bearing conscious entities would more than likely have their own timewaves based on the cycles of each system.

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So the answer is "yes".

Thanks for that clear explanation, as you are always clear and concise with your replies.

Wow, each solar system has a nexus of sorts. Enter a foreign solar system and be subjected to those laws. Interesting indeed.

2 days away until the 17th. The eggs are yellow...

gcpdot.com...

And Reinhardt's site just went haywire with a plethora of information, who needs the thousand dollar subscription?

www.enterprisecorruption.com...





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