China Earthquake caused by HAARP weapon

Originally posted by andre18
One of the fault lines runs between Japan and China, which is why Japan is known for its earthquakes. The earthquake this year happened on the other fault line – if it was HAARP you’d think they would have chosen an area of China that’s more important, the area hit is a poor part of China, hardly a logical place to target.

On the contrary it is a completely logical area to hit as a 'warning' isn't a bit strange to you that alot of areas hit by 'freak' weather events are in poor areas?

Please read the last line of my previous post living or dead.

Originally posted by amfirst
This stuff is a bunch of bs, and it's getting old at this point. Earthquakes have been happening all around the world as of lately, but of course it;s the US fault.

Must be part of the 'War on Terra'


There seems to be an increase in people lately who are overly-paranoid, some of whom seem reasonably intelligent in some of their posts, but who lose all reason and are sucked in by the 'snakeoil salesmen'.

Blimey, I say, just Blimey!

[edit on 15/9/08 by ChChKiwi]

what i have noticed is when someone talks of certain subjects they are met with a wall of abuse ,namely chemtrails,the abilities of haarp and morgellons.

the strange thing is there all interwoven ,they all serve eachother in a link of technology.
and the source of all the above tech is of course our beloved programmed nothings.

I'm sorry to be confrontational here but....cloud seeding is a reality. It is certainly not perfected, but it is given a try. However it has NOTHING to do with Haarrp, and Harrp didn't cause the earthquake in China, it was a natural occurance.

haarp has everything to do with the weather and cloud seeding, i suggest you do some research.
weatherwars.info...
www.carnicom.com...
pesn.com...

basicly its possible for clouds to form with electric charge , haarp easiliy creates electric charge.it also possible to manipulate clouds with electric charge,hence to modify weather systems.

here is a qoute by former secretery of defece in 1997

Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen Monday, April 28, 1997 - 8:45 a.m. EDT Cohen's keynote address at the Conference on Terrorism, Weapons of Mass Destruction, and U.S. Strategy at the Georgia Center, Mahler Auditorium, University of Georgia, Athens, Ga. The event is part of the Sam Nunn Policy Forum being hosted by the University of Georgia. Secretary Cohen is joined by Sen. Sam Nunn and Sen. Richard G. Lugar.] AND I quote directly from the defense Secretary's comments on that page ( look at the bottom of the paragraph regarding "Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves. "

im sorry folks but causing electric quakes is easy as pie as i explained in a previous post in this thread.

can anyone explain the anomylous rainbow like clouds hours befor the quake?,there not circum horizonontal arcs as so many are fond of saying as the do not hold the correct altitiude of 22000 feet nor are they cirrus clouds.

the clouds we see can only be created by charged paricles reacting with atmospheric gases,the same effect we see in the auroura.

the reason why the charge is located around clouds is that water vapour is an intense electrical conductor thus any charge is likely to gather there and react with the atmospheric gases causing an auroural glow.

therefore hours before the quake intense electrical fields were present near the epicentre ,haarp creates intense electrical fields.

creating earthquakes with haarp is childsplay.

its reality.

Originally posted by andre18
One of the fault lines runs between Japan and China, which is why Japan is known for its earthquakes. The earthquake this year happened on the other fault line – if it was HAARP you’d think they would have chosen an area of China that’s more important, the area hit is a poor part of China, hardly a logical place to target.

the method of electrical quakes targets already existing faultlines.

the goal of the electric quakes is to depopulate the planet .80000 people died due to poor construction of buildings because of poverty and overpopulation,as the poor breed the most,mission accomplished.

[edit on 15-9-2008 by welivefortheson]

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I absolutely *do* believe that through cloud seeding the weather can be controlled. This is something that *can* be abused and should be regulated by honest civilians who have the knowledge to understand these things (I am not one of them), however, this is not *proof* that it HAS BEEN used for evil purposes.

(and don't run with that saying that I am blind to those who are committing acts irresponsibly for their personal agendas.. but since *I* don't like being falsely accused, I hold firm to the "innocent until PROVEN guilty" concept no matter WHO it is.. gov't officials, corporate bankers, scientists, and *hell* if they exist then even the aliens)


There are many ways that seismic waves can be produced through non natural means. That still does nothing to prove that the earthquake in china was produced by anything other than natural means.. especially since earthquakes are not uncommon in that region of the world.

There are some mighty big claims being made in this thread and the only ones ignorant are the ones buying the claims without proof.. not proof that it is possible, but proof that it involves the US Govt, HAARP, and/or aliens. HELL, no one has even PROVED that aliens exist let alone helped to cause the earthquake in china.


I am calling for proof, not of the technology, but that the technology WAS IN FACT used to create the earthquake in china. If you believe it, then you obviously have the proof (not just evidence) for what you believe, no?

Wikipedia Article on HAARP

The HAARP project offers annual open days to permit the general public to visit the facility, and makes a public virtue of openness; according to the team, "there are no classified documents pertaining to the HAARP." Each summer, the HAARP holds a summer-school for visiting students, including foreign nationals, giving them an opportunity to do research with one of the world's foremost research instruments.

There used to be a map at their site, but I see it is gone. Just call and they will give you instructions how to get there. They also share all data.

This entire batch of nonsense surrounding HAARP seems to be based on the childish notion that the HAARP array looks funny so they must be trying to destroy the world

HAARP is incapable of even producing a glow due to power limitations as I understand it. Also their range does not reach high enough to cause an Aurora like the natural ones we see here all winter long. If HAARP were a danger the normal, natural Auroras would destroy they Earth. What HAARP does is like a fly speck on a Continent in comparison to what our upper atmosphere experiences every minute of every day.

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What a great find!! I am sure that those who believe the claims in this thread will take full advantage and go investigate first hand these allegations they are making. I look forward to hearing all about it and having some actual proof presented in regards to their claims.

Again, great find!!

Originally posted by Blaine91555
This entire batch of nonsense surrounding HAARP seems to be based on the childish notion that the HAARP array looks funny so they must be trying to destroy the world

Would you put your head in a microwave? and then cook it for a full minute on full power? I suggest you research HAARP particularly the amount of power it can generate? that bounces back from the ionosphere.

uk.youtube.com...

fast forward to 9.00 min and we see the same rainbow cloud affect in canada after some chemtrailing.

[edit on 16-9-2008 by welivefortheson]

Originally posted by welivefortheson
uk.youtube.com...

fast forward to 9.00 min and we see the same rainbow cloud affect in canada after some chemtrailing.

[edit on 16-9-2008 by welivefortheson]

uhm, did that region have an earthquake afterward? If not, then I see no proof. If so, then I still see no proof. Yeah yeah! I know you are thinking I am close minded, but I assure you I am not. However, I am not so open minded that I let my mind fill up with random crap I read on the internet or see from vids on youtube.

This isn't proof. Where is the sun in relation to the moisture that is visible in the form of a C L O U D? That might be the reason for the rainbow effect ya know If you prove where the sun is in relation to the position of the ppl and the cloud and it is in the wrong position to be giving off that illusion, then we'll talk about other possibilities. But I choose to go for the rational and rule it out before jumping to the far fetched explanation.

That's just me though not wanting to be fooled by ANYONE bc as far as I know, you have an agenda for spreading this unprovable story.

Originally posted by Blaine91555
Wikipedia Article on HAARP

The HAARP project offers annual open days to permit the general public to visit the facility, and makes a public virtue of openness; according to the team, "there are no classified documents pertaining to the HAARP." Each summer, the HAARP holds a summer-school for visiting students, including foreign nationals, giving them an opportunity to do research with one of the world's foremost research instruments.

that is but on facility out of several.

Current facilities The United States has three ionospheric heating facilities: the HAARP, the HIPAS, near Fairbanks, Alaska, and (currently offline for modifications) one at the Arecibo Observatory in Puerto Rico. The European Incoherent Scatter Scientific Association (EISCAT) operates an ionospheric heating facility, capable of transmitting over 1 GW [5] (1,000,000,000 watts) effective radiated power (ERP), near Tromsø in Norway. Russia has the Sura ionospheric heating facility, in Vasilsursk near Nizhniy Novgorod, capable of transmitting 190 MW ERP.

the possibilities that are created by manipulating the ionosphere are wide,powerfull and varied.

something like 98% of the energy that reaches the earth from the sun is stored in the ionsphere.

it is not childish to be able to recognise the ablities of science .haarp allows us to transmitt immense amounts of electromagentism to any point upon the globe.with this electromagnetism it is possible to do things beyond the laymans comprehension ,mind control(tesla himself designed such a system utilizing the ionosphere all those decades ago),pulling down sections of the ionosphere as a weapon(tesla again,and he did this 80 years ago with things HE built),weather modification by using haarp/ionospheric electric charge to affect the electical chargse latent within weather systems.

let me tell you ,open you mind ,discover science and realise there are thsouands of organisations around the world who for nigh on a centuary have dedicated most of thier resources into developing technologies that would boggle your mind.
good old skunk works are proud of folks like you,they can do whatever they want and no one blinks an eye for what they have achieved is 50 years ahead of what 99% of us believe is presently possible, thus they can act with impunity.

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Still waiting patiently for someone on a thread about HAARP to explain exactly how they are causing earthquakes in other locations? The closest I've seen to an explanation would require a satellite with a power supply to large to imagine or escape detection. The existence of multiple sites is not an answer, but instead a diversion.

Don't worry if it is technically complex. I'll figure it out.

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on the previous page i explained it.

you dont need a sattelite, electromagnetism can be bounced of the ionosphere to target location ,its how the radio network works.

Originally posted by justamomma

Originally posted by welivefortheson
uk.youtube.com...

fast forward to 9.00 min and we see the same rainbow cloud affect in canada after some chemtrailing.

[edit on 16-9-2008 by welivefortheson]

uhm, did that region have an earthquake afterward? If not, then I see no proof. If so, then I still see no proof. Yeah yeah! I know you are thinking I am close minded, but I assure you I am not. However, I am not so open minded that I let my mind fill up with random crap I read on the internet or see from vids on youtube.

This isn't proof. Where is the sun in relation to the moisture that is visible in the form of a C L O U D? That might be the reason for the rainbow effect ya know

If you prove where the sun is in relation to the position of the ppl and the cloud and it is in the wrong position to be giving off that illusion, then we'll talk about other possibilities. But I choose to go for the rational and rule it out before jumping to the far fetched explanation.

That's just me though not wanting to be fooled by ANYONE bc as far as I know, you have an agenda for spreading this unprovable story.

that is not a rainbow,rainbows appear in arcs
en.wikipedia.org...

you may also notice that "cloud" is actually a chemtrail.

the auroural glow you see in canada is produced by chemtrails ,not by an attempt to create an earthquake.
you many notice that chemtrails often disperse electrolytes that can create rainbow like effects.electolytes are materials that increase electrical conductivity thus increase charge within particle systems.

Contrails are always pure white and don�t exhibit much halo effect.� Chemtrails have an oily glint to them, with pronounced rainbow-like color effects (reddish or pinkish tint) as the sun shines through.� Some of the best photographic evidence of chemtrails is found at www.carnicom.com...

www.worldaffairsbrief.com...

here are some rather interesting studies into electromagnetic anomalies relating to earthquakes and volcanic eruptions.

here is an interesting extract from a study
books.google.co.uk... -oRzUXrx7O9umfEds&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=10&ct=result

The geomagnetic activity during the period of the 5th and 30th of march,was quite except for the period of 22nd-25th of march.the geomagnetic disturbance that can be qualified as a sunstorm started on ther 22 of march and all ionspheric stations from the region demonstrated the negative disturbance of the critical frequency.during this disturbance period the AE index had an oscillatory character but just before the earthquake dropped to the extremely low value of 33nT which corresponds to the very quite magnetic situation.at the same time the variation in the solar radiation flux did not exceed 5% of its mean value.so we can conclude that a few days before the earhtquake the geomagnetic situation in the region can be characterised from slightly disturbed to calm.this means that detected large scale irregularities in the ionosphere cannot be interpreted as as result of geomagnetic disturbance.

thus we have a sitation in which ionospheric distrurbances are created prior to earth quakes that are not a result geomagnetic activity.this disturbance appeared at the same time as what appeared to be a solar storm ,which co indicedently co incided with the exact location of an earthquake.

more,

The monitoring of the electrostatic field on the eve of the strong earthquakes detect its ultra-low-frequency perturbations with a period of a few hours (10-4Hz) and a magnitude of the order of 10 V/cm. Usually this field is on the level of one V/cm. The anomalous electric field as a forerunner of the coming earthquake considerably increases a concentration of the metal ions (sodium) in the E-domain at altitudes ~120 km and the electron concentration, as well. In particular, the latter may enlarge by one order comparing with the initial electron concentration in this domain. The typical dimensions of this layer are ~ 100 km in a length and ~ 10 km in a thickness. The perturbations of this electric field form a layer with higher than usual concentration of sodium ions and atoms in the E- ionosphere and the field will heats-up electrons in this layer. Simple evaluations show the electron temperature in this layer in the presence of the seismogenic electric field is approximately about 1000-1300K at altitudes 100-120 km provided that the electric field is ~ 10-3 V/cm. It is important the cross-section of excitation of the nitrogen low vibration levels by electrons at this energy is anomalous and close to 5x10-15cm2. It happens to be that the eighth vibration level of a nitrogen molecule practically coincides with the first excited state of a sodium atom with energy ENa=2.1eV. Thus, the resonant transfer of the vibration energy of excited nitrogen with excitation of a sodium atom takes place practically in every collision. Our evaluation of the sodium doublet intensity due to the above-discussed mechanism from the ionosphere layer, mentioned above, gives 5x10-3erg/cm2s. A comparison of this quantity with the conventional intensity of the sodium doublet from this layer 7x10-4erg/cm2s shows that the suggested mechanism provides the intensity almost by one order larger than the conventional intensity of the sodium doublet. The considerable increasing in the intensity of the sodium doublet in the spectrum of the night ionosphere can be registered by monitoring the night sky over the seismic dangerous regions.

www.agu.org...

what this says is that in the run up to an earthquake an increased electostatic field is created that spans from the ionosphere down into the epicentre within the crust of the earth.the intense electric field also seems to co incide with a gathering of electroconductive sodium ions in the mesosphere along the vertical plane also leading to epicentre.
the affect of the charged sodium is an auroral glow visible at night.

more,

We present results from our collection and evaluating of early warning signals from the lithosphere, atmosphere and ionosphere preceding the major earthquake events in Mexico. This study examines possible connections between anomalous changes of atmospheric and ionospheric parameters observed around the time of several strong earthquakes in Mexico (M7.8 Colima of January 21, 2003, M5.8 Oaxaca of July 18, 2004 and others). Our approach requires integral measurements of several physical and environmental parameters (electric and electromagnetic fields, air conductivity, ionospheric parameters, temperature and humidity of the boundary layer, seismicity) that have been found to be associated with impending earthquakes. Our ionospheric and atmospheric observational methodology is based of joint analysis of: (1) Delta Total Electron Contents (TEC) collected from ground based GPS; (2) satellite long-wavelength radiation data form NOAA; (3) surface latent heat flux (SLHF); (4) DEMETER satellite VLF electrical field and; (5) thermal infrared (TIR) data from (NASA EOS/MODIS) together with ground air temperature and humidity measurements. This analysis revealed several types of atmosphere /ionosphere anomalies one week prior to the earthquakes that validated the alarm signals. Our latest experience from several post-earthquake independent analyses recognized the problem of proper evaluation of such alarm techniques for upcoming major (M>5.5, depth

[edit on 17-9-2008 by welivefortheson]

so what we have here is that prior to earthquakes we have an allignment of varied electrictly conductive phenomena ,that happens to co incide exactly with the epicentre of earthquakes above and below.ionosphere to ground zero.

given that the prime method of creating artifical quakes is the piezo electric expansion which requires a build up of electric charge ,this seems rather strange.

we also see that the planet is being infested with electricly conductive materials with chemtrails.

i often wonder about planetary depopulation ,and how often it is assosciated with the NWO ,who also happen to be those responsible for genocidal killings that have killed 10's of millions.

are natural disasters another method they use in which to butcher us? ,we see lots of reports of similiar electric disturbaces with hurricanes such as katrina......


[edit on 17-9-2008 by welivefortheson]

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Sorry I have been neglecting this thread an absolute excellent bit of research and thankyou very much for providing the information for me. I apologise again for my absence.

Just to add to those coming in late HAARP is not the fluffy cuddly scientific experiment you think it is, it caused the tsunami and the Iranian earthquake, the Iranian earth quake was a warning to the Iranian officials (just like the chinese one) I found a fantastic video on you tube that talks about the chinese warnings I will find the link and post it.

What the USA/UK government didn't realise is that HAARP is not a one of its kind, it looks like several other countries have and are creating the same thing. This literally is going to shock our planet within the not so far future.

Here it is, in it he explains how the chinese finance minister told him that the earthquake in china was a warning to all. Before you dismiss him please note he has interviewed David Rockefeller, you should know by now that not just anyone interviews the Rockefellers.




[edit on 17-9-2008 by franspeakfree]

Originally posted by welivefortheson
reply to post by Blaine91555

 

on the previous page i explained it.

you dont need a sattelite, electromagnetism can be bounced of the ionosphere to target location ,its how the radio network works.

You could explain til you are blue in the face it will make no difference to the people that don't want to accept that the government is lying,evil,cheating corrupt and did I mention evil.

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thanks the research didnt take me long,about 15 mins.perhaps one day ile spend weeks on it and pull out all the stops and prove categorically electric quakes are being used to depopulate the planet along with many other natural disasters such as hurricanes and floods, instigated by those who have the ability to manipulate electrons intiricitly.

im sure china would have the evidence available to prove it,but they dont want to admit they are defenceless as what they probably percieve to be attacks against them from secret tech of the usa,when infact its our beloved genocidly inclined "machines" responsible for all this butchery.

oh and in regards to the video, if you are a freemason assassin,you dont go around telling people that,so once again we have the machines pretending to be somone else as a mask.

[edit on 18-9-2008 by welivefortheson]

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I agree but anyone that can get close to Rokefeller has got to deserve an ear?