Sarah Palin announces daughter is pregnant

Gotta love that she prmotes abstinence, but cant even promote it well in her own household...... ha ha, this is the best choice.... she cant even run her kid, but is going to run this country!!! noooo way

Originally posted by whaaa

Originally posted by TheRooster


But when it comes to taking the "moral high ground" as you put it, the only party left with any credit is the Republican Party, as the Democrats filed for Moral Bankruptcy a long time ago.

Right!!!

You know Whaaa, Moral high ground isn't just about sex. And I stand behind my statement regarding the democrats being morally bankrupt.

FYI anyone reading this post, here's the opening line from the website noted above.
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Can't argue this one though. At least when Republicans are shamed, they leave office, unlike most Dems! Read on...

Top 10 Democrat Sex Scandals in Congress

Information compiled from the Washington Post, “Congressional Sex Scandals in History,” and other sources.

10. Sen. Daniel Inouye. The 82-year-old Hawaii Democrat was accused in the 1990s by numerous women of sexual harassment. Democrats cast doubt on the allegations and the Senate Ethics Committee dropped its investigation.

9. Former Rep. Gus Savage. The Illinois Democrat was accused of fondling a Peace Corps volunteer in 1989 while on a trip to Africa. The House Ethics Committee decided against disciplinary action in 1990.Continued

8. Rep. Barney Frank. The outspoken Massachusetts Democrat hired a male prostitute who ran a prostitution service from Frank’s residence in the 1980s. Only two Democrats in the House of Representatives voted to censure him in 1990.

7. Former Sen. Brock Adams. The late Washington Democrat was forced to stop campaigning after numerous accusations of drugging, assault and rape, the first surfacing in 1988.

6. Former Rep. Fred Richmond. This New York Democrat was arrested in 1978 for soliciting sex from a 16-year-old. He remained in Congress and won re-election—before eventually resigning in 1982 after pleading guilty to tax evasion and drug possession.

5. Former Rep. John Young. The late Texas Democrat increased the salary of a staffer after she gave in to his sexual advances. The congressman won re-election in 1976 but lost two years later.

4. Former Rep. Wayne Hays. The late Ohio Democrat hired an unqualified secretary reportedly for sexual acts. Although he resigned from Congress, the Democratic House leadership stalled in removing him from the Administration Committee in 1976.

3. Former Rep. Gerry Studds. He was censured for sexual relationship with underage male page in 1983. Massachusetts voters returned him to office for six more terms.

2. Former Rep. Mel Reynolds. The Illinois Democrat was convicted of 12 counts of sexual assault with a 16-year-old. President Bill Clinton pardoned him before leaving office.

1. Sen. Teddy Kennedy. The liberal Massachusetts senator testified in defense of nephew accused of rape, invoking his family history to win over the jury in 1991.

Where there is smoke, there is fire!

The discussions on the international Internet forced them to reveal this. Had there not been murmurs, who knows how much they would have *tried* to hide from us.

The person running for the VP ticket who is known to be anti-abortion, anti-birth control, and a Creationist has an underage teenage daughter that is pregnant. Not hypocritical at all.

Both parties have their share of scumbags and I'm not defending the Democrats, but at least most of their infractions seem to be heterosexual.

But the Republicans seem to like little boys.

as long as we're making comparisons....



[edit on 1-9-2008 by whaaa]

reply to post by TheRooster


Rooster the Republican party does not exist anymore. I to was a Republican and still am but Im a Ron Paul Republican. The Neo Cons have taken over the party. In 8 years we have managed to add on 5 trillion to our national debt. The big business and execs at the top have done just fine and the stats show this while the middle class is being wiped out. This is partly because of our monetary system and because the trickle down theory does not work.

Henry Ford understood that you need to pay your employees well because its those same employees that will come back and buy those products. The Republicans of the past understood this also. The ones now do not. The ones now dont believe in true free market where if you make your money you make your money but if you fail you fail. Now its if you make your money great here you go execs but if you fail no worries we will bail you out with taxpayer dollars. The Republican party of new needs a real wake up call. But who do you elect? The communist Obama? The Fascist McCain? It really is a choice of the lesser of two evils but you still get evil.

If adding the 5 trillion on to our debt isnt bad enough that means our next interest only payment to the bankers like the FED and other central banks is going to run a hefty 400 billion dollars or 23% of tax receipts. The conservatives of the past does not exist Im sorry but its the truth. This is why I get frustrated with this deal because its another hypocrisy of the Republican party. They push for the religious type morals and the legislative morality that comes with it. But then you get the gay sex, the hitting on young paiges, the affairs, the premarital sex, the cronyism, and on and on. They need to get over it. The Dems do all the same crap no doubt but they also dont play the morality bid on their platform like the Neo Cons do. This is why the Neo Cons get all the religious votes.

The fact is we are all human and this stuff happens. It shouldnt be a big deal at all. But as long as you tell everyone else to do this that and this and then your doing just the opposite or people in your family is then that should be a clue to put a sock in it and quit throwing stones in glass houses.

[edit on 1-9-2008 by mybigunit]

im insulted as a woman that mccain would pick a woman without the necessary experienced as his vp just to get the votes of some of these ignorant women. using some of these unfortunate young ladys who end up pregnant because there mothers are to busy to teach their daughters the importance of using condoms forget about birth control it does not protect you against std. does he really care about american women? this is just one of the ugliest political things a man could ever do. and to send her to irack as if though she was an under cover miss america peew and i think mcane has other motives. oil hmm alaska i wonder how much stock he has on that.

Originally posted by whaaa

But the Republicans seem to like little boys.

I could have picked other quotes just as bad.

Moderators,

Are you going to let ATS turn into the Daily Kos where ignorance is fully embraced. How does this post and many others have anything to do with truth and denying ignorance? I'm not even a Republican and I'm offended as would be any decent person.

First we see the ridiculous accusations of Palin's child being her daughters child from sex with her brother or father. Now we see it being said that all Republicans are pedophiles and no Moderator intervention???????

ATS members,

Is this what you want? To become the Daily Kos or one of the other smear sites controlled by people like Soros? Is this why we come here? To embrace ignorance fully?

I'm starting to wonder if Soros and his minions are not sending people here on purpose?

If this continues, I can see the people who should be posting here, posting here less and less as we and ATS loose all credibility.

[edit on 9/1/2008 by Blaine91555]

Sarah and her husband, Todd Palin, issued a statement saying they are "proud of Bristol's decision to have her baby and even prouder to become grandparents."

www.cnn.com...

This is the best spin of this story I have seen or hear so far. I dont think no normal parent would be proud of becoming a granparent under this circumstance.

Betrayed, upset, mad, dissapointed, furious, ashamed are some words that jump to my mind, "proud" is certainly not one of them. Which brings the old question of why can politicians cant never seem to say why they really think!!?


[edit on 1-9-2008 by Bunch]

Bristol's baby's father


It seems Bristol and this guy have been dating for a while now. Here is the article.

Which brings the old question of why can politicians cant never seem to say why they really think!!?

I am not a politician but I am the mother of four daughters. If I were ever in Sarah Palins shoes I would not publicly state that I was ashamed or embarrassed of my daughter!!!

What a family discuses in their home is one thing, but family is family and you stand by one another and support each other through the fun times AND the tough times.

Jemison

Here is the real truth:
Teenagers are afflicted with hormone driven behavior. They are not noted as paragons of advanced planning to mitigate consequences of their irresonsibility.

It probably seemed like a really good idea at the time.

This isn't the first time a young lady ended up pregnant as a result of the oldest sport in the world and it won't be the last. I hope the press lets this drop and lets the young lady get on with whatever life she will have without torturing her for her youthful indiscretion. The press could then free the resources to focus on something meaningful in this race or could at least report on those Hollywood scandals whose subjects leak information so as to remain in the public eye.

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I get your point but they could at least say something like:

"While are we our dissapointed but our daughters situation we stand by her, we are going to support her and guide her through this difficult situation of her life, we ask everyone to respect our daughter in this private matter"

That seems more like the way a REAL person would feel, in my opinion.

Originally posted by mybigunit
reply to post by TheRooster

 

The fact is we are all human and this stuff happens. It shouldnt be a big deal at all. But as long as you tell everyone else to do this that and this and then your doing just the opposite or people in your family is then that should be a clue to put a sock in it and quit throwing stones in glass houses.

[edit on 1-9-2008 by mybigunit]

MBU I hear what you're saying, I have long considered myself to be a "Goldwater Republican". I have posted many times I feel abandoned by my party, perhaps the solution to many of our country's problems would be to abolish the 2 party system. Why vote for the lesser of two evils?

Your writing implies the dems live in glass houses and know better than to attempt to lead by example. But if the republican party didn't take up the voice of morality, (as hypocritical as it is today) there wouldn't be one.

Instead of worrying about who's baby is who's baby right now, we should be reviewing each candidates stand on the issues and educating ourselves with respect their prior voting record.

But look at the title of this thread, and look at what we are doing to each other. In fact, look at every thread with a political topic on ATS. We must look like a joke to other nations...

MBU, my fellow American, I will disagree with you on certain issues and will respect you in the process, but I/we/us have got to have faith in the future. Someone in Govt has got to hold that flame for me/us, and if in the process they do not uphold their oath, you and I need to hold them accountable. It's time we either start holding the stewards of this country accountable, or take it back!

Um Who Cares??? Is this ATS or TMZ?

Originally posted by TheRooster

But if the republican party didn't take up the voice of morality, (as hypocritical as it is today) there wouldn't be one.

Hypocrites the voice of morality? What kind of sense does that make???

reply to post by TheRooster


There is no future for our Republic until there is a second revolution. I cant put it any easier than that. Only the people can bleed out the corruption that has taken over our government. But as long as the media, entertainment, and banking industies continue forming dumb slaves and the people allowing it to happen this will not happen and the US will fall hard just like Rome.

As far as the glass houses what that means is anyone and I mean anyone who judges people for doing or not doing something and then turns around and does it themselves is throwing stones in a glass house. In other words practice what you preach and yes about 98% of Washington needs a hardcore lesson on this.

Originally posted by whaaa

Originally posted by TheRooster

But if the republican party didn't take up the voice of morality, (as hypocritical as it is today) there wouldn't be one.

Hypocrites the voice of morality? What kind of sense does that make???

Unlike most dems Whaaa I'm sure you not only see the problem but have the remedy. So what say you?

The point I was making in case you didn't get it is this... They can't all be bad can they? Can't we kick out the bad ones, (on both sides of the isle) keep the good ones and allow them to lead with a solid moral compass? Or is this just not possible today?

Originally posted by mybigunit
reply to post by TheRooster

 

There is no future for our Republic until there is a second revolution. I cant put it any easier than that. Only the people can bleed out the corruption that has taken over our government. But as long as the media, entertainment, and banking industies continue forming dumb slaves and the people allowing it to happen this will not happen and the US will fall hard just like Rome.

As far as the glass houses what that means is anyone and I mean anyone who judges people for doing or not doing something and then turns around and does it themselves is throwing stones in a glass house. In other words practice what you preach and yes about 98% of Washington needs a hardcore lesson on this.

On your first paragraph, I hear you but I hope you're wrong. On your second paragraph, if it is indeed anywhere near 90%, we might as well just go the whole 100%. Count me in.

[edit on 9/1/2008 by TheRooster]

what kind of mother knowingly puts her child through something like this? that's what i want to know and what i question most about this whole situation. move up in politics at all costs? come on...