bible mark of the beast is not 666 it 600606

Originally posted by the_watcher
Hmm... I believe it is actually 616.

The number you've proposed doesn't fit any theological study I'm familiar with, but if you have any official academic sources I'd love to look at them.

Even if you are right, the Book of Revelations is about the future too, especially the Tribulation so if 616 was the case it does not mean it may not rise in the future once more. The Roman Empire or European Union is mean to rise once again, so who knows if they use some ancient meanings in their currencies it could still be that way round. Even Babylon (todays Iraq) is meant to be back on the scene and even Iran in the last days so its just a mirror effect of history repeating it self.

Hi all,

The actual New Testament says it is
Revelation chapter -13
18 Ὧδε ἡ σοφία ἐστίν· ὁ ἔχων νοῦν ψηφισάτω τὸν ἀριθμὸν τοῦ θηρίου· ἀριθμὸς γὰρ ἀνθρώπου ἐστί· καὶ ὁ ἀριθμὸς αὐτοῦ χξς'.


χξς'


I remember reading not too long ago about these letters,Ill try and find the article and translate it.

ICXC NIKA
helen

EDIT...but still haven't figured out how to re-size The letters?
Oh well!

[edit on 7/31/2009 by helen670]

Unless the mark of the beast is 999 the UK emergency service, with 666 being written upside down as a code, not the only to have seen such a pattern you don't have to be a genius to see the pattern.

reply to post by undo

According to historical record, the sumerian, akkadian and babylonian number system was base 12 (or six). i believe this was because the 'gods' and their hybrid offspring (nephilim) had 6 fingers (on each hand), as opposed to human equivalent with base 10 (or five), because we have 5 fingers (on each hand).

The Sumerian numerical system is base 60. You might be thinking of their division of day and night into 12 "beru" (hours), but that isn't their base for counting.

reply to post by truthseekerpeacemaker


Yes, wikipedia is right that threescore means 60. The old writings put numbers together as 600 plus 60 plus 6. You get 666. Six-hundred, threescore, and six. It is not three different numbers. It is one number spoken as a math equation added together. 666 is the number of money and commerce. You will not be able to buy, sell or trade without the mark. Anyways, check out my new thread on the 7 revivals of the Roman empire..... The 7th being the European Union and the beast of revelation. Check it out here....

www.belowtopsecret.com...

666 mark of the beast... 6 is the number of man .. 3 the number of god....
the number is given to the beast for he claims himself to be a god.. as he shall do in revalations... thus he is marked as 666 in the bible... and those who follow hiim shall be given a mark on their hands or forehead to prove their worship to the beast the new god... and all that do will be able to trade ... those without the mark shall not... and those with the mark of the beast shall.... die .. because they follow the beast as written in revelatons

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omg you guys are ridiculous! by the time this thread is done you will have said that number as many times as its worth!! and if any one of you is spiritual and takes any seriousness to that number and what it stands for then why would you repeat it so many times???? if you are not religious than i guess you dont have anything to worry about....

There is a problem of equating 666 to Nero/Rome of the time.

No other prophecy of the Bible really meshes well for that time frame. There are a few that fit, but most do not.

Example?

*Israel becoming a nation again

*The rebuilding of the third temple

*The cataclysmic events on Earth and in space

*The return of Jesus

The bible seems to not cover not all the world, mainly the christain world, so any reference would not apply to other religions,races,countries.

you cannot buy without the mark on your hand?
Could this mean the number on the hand, ie, credit cards?
A world recession,you cannot pay your bills, your card is cancelled, so now you cannot buy, less cash is used in stores, becoming a cashless society.
8th world government =NWO

[edit on 1-8-2009 by stmichael]

The number is there for a reason as a warning it does say you can work it out, it is meant to be worked out at the time of crises so we know and have warning.
Before such events we will have other fullfilments along the way and that is when you know the time is right. Most of the prophecies have got to do with the final days Israel and the Middle East nations that pose a threat to it. Maybe Europe is mentioned too but we don't know for sure what is going on, Iron mix with Clay the symbol of Iron=Rome=Europe with Clay that does not mix which could be Islamic influence and laws who are incompatible. Another theory is that the new empire will be of Nephilim orgin, man and Angel hybrid.

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CLAY
Chacaph is the clay of the image in Nebuchadnezzar's dream (Dan 2:33 ).
kla (chomer, chacaph, TiT, meleT, `abhi, ma`abheh, abhTiT; pelos, "wet clay," "mud"): True clay, which is a highly aluminous soil, is found in certain localities in Palestine,and is used in making pottery. The Hebrew and Greek words, as well as the English "clay," are, however, used loosely for any sticky mud. In making mud bricks, true clay is not always used, but ordinary soil is worked up with water and mixed with straw, molded and left to dry in the sun. Chomer (compare chmar, "slime" or "bitumen") is rendered both "clay" and "mortar."

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So in a way it could mean Palastine and the a Jews that do not mix.
Since the Bible describes the Philistines as the last hybrids of Human Angel dna race then that could be a clue also in the symbolism.


[edit on 1-8-2009 by The time lord]

Originally posted by stmichael

8th world government =NWO

[edit on 1-8-2009 by stmichael]

Run by Israel, the antichrist.

Originally posted by Archon_Adept

Originally posted by stmichael

8th world government =NWO

[edit on 1-8-2009 by stmichael]

Run by Israel, the antichrist.

Israel will be decieved by the anti-Christ who will then use the middle east and the world to gather round for wiping out their race or trace of anthing Jewish.

The anti-christ and false prophets will be a president of the European Union (7th revival of the Roman Empire) and the Pope (leader of false christianity). The beast of revelation is the European Union. There is a large Islamic population in Europe and as the U.S. falls, the EU will rise. Meet the NWO!

reply to post by truthseekerpeacemaker


hello All

if you avoid the number of the beast

what and how are you going to avoid taking his name and the mark?


these are all seperate, Christians very often concentrate on just one thing and somehow amalgamate them

david

Anybody recognize this 1010011010

This is 666 is binary form.

Looks like nothing unusual at first, but then I realized it’s an inverted mirror image…

Take the first five numbers and rap the last five back around and you get…
10100
01011

I’ve tried this with other numbers like 333,444,555 and 777 but you don’t get the same effect.

Due to a recent conversation I have had with an Ats member, I’m starting to think that the beast could be half man, half machine. A person with his memories transferred into a machine but who has no soul to go with it.



- JC

reply to post by Alxandro


Everyone here keeps going back and fourth... just check this out and see if this makes better sence of 666. let me know what you think. www.youtube.com...

How about this then for Conspiracy, if 600 60 and 6 or 600606 is turned upsidedown and you get 900909
looks like GOOGOG which sounds like Google. Took me 10 seconds to come up with that. Could it be a sign?

More research, looks spooky.

In January 2009, Google announced a partnership with the Pontifical Council for Social Communications, allowing the Pope to have his own channel on YouTube.[67]


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Imagine we do get microchipped as an acceptable fad and then it does get infected by a virus that then becomes the mark of the beast, I mean computers get hacked all the time.

BBC News: First human infected with computer virus

Well, I couldn't wait for the definitive answer, so I posted. I wanted to get off post 666 and what a fitting thread.

This is post number 667.

You can't just pick one small section of The Revelation of John and deal with it as if it is an entire entity unto itself. You have to read it in context. Lets begin with,

13.1 And I saw a beast rising out of the sea, having ten horns and seven heads; and on its horns were ten diadems, and on its heads were blasphemous names.

In this verse, the seven heads referenced by John are likely symbolic of the Seven Hills of Rome. The seven heads, according to John himself, also represent the seven emperors of Rome mentioned later in Revelation 17.9b-10. “also, they are seven kings of whom five have fallen, one is living, and the other has not yet to come”. If the seven kings are Rome’s major emperors, and the living head is the one currently in control of the beast, then the beast, at the time that John wants the reader to believe he’s writing, is Rome, and the living head is Nero. Further evidence of this is shown in Revelation 13:17-18 describing the number of The Beast as 666 and 616, representing the numerological interpretation of the translation of the Greek Neron Kaesar, or Nero Caesar, respectively, into Hebrew. We see further evidence of this in 13:3, which I’ll address later.

We are also told of the blasphemous names written on each head. During this time, Nero had enforced a law demanding that the people conquered by Rome must worship him and all previous emperors as gods. To call anyone but God a god is a blasphemy and a violation of the covenant with Moses (Ex 20:4). If each head is an emperor, then they each carry a blasphemous name on them.
I believe the ten horns would best be described along with the description given for Revelation 13:2.

13.2 And the beast that I saw was like a leopard, its feet were like a bear’s, and its mouth was like a lion’s mouth. And the dragon gave it his power and his throne and great authority.

This seems to be a reference to Daniel 7:3-6. In it, Daniel references 4 beasts rising from the sea. Each of these beasts is represented by a different animal; the lion, the bear, leopard and the fourth is not represented by an animal, but by its iron teeth and ten horns. These four beasts, for Daniel, represented the Babylonian Empire, the Medes, the Persians and the Greeks. They may also have represented the four segments that Greece was separated into after the death of Alexander the Great, those being: the Ptolemaic Kingdom, the Seleucid Empire, the Kingdom of Pergamon and Macedon as a political statement by the author of Daniel. In John’s scenario, however, the beasts are joined as one body, representing Rome, under the seven heads, with one of those heads in control. By making his beast so similar to Daniel’s, he allows the reader to understand the significance of his political commentary, and serve as a warning that history will repeat itself.

The final part of this line references the Dragon that is mentioned in Revelation 12:9 “The great dragon…that ancient serpent, who is called the Devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world…” Here, we are meant to understand that Rome was given its power by Satan, and that it is an evil entity.

13.3 One of its heads seemed to have received a death-blow, but its mortal wound had been healed. In amazement the whole earth followed the beast.

Referencing, once again Revelation 17.9b-10, we know that the Beast has one living head. If we assume that the five dead heads are the former emperors, starting with Augustus, and then counting up, we find that the living head is Nero. We can then assume that the mortal wound that had been healed was meant to represent the Nero Redivivus legend, that is, the legend that Nero, although mortally wounded, would recover from the injury, rise from the dead and continue his blasphemous rul. John predicts that the people, based on his miraculous recovery, and his law stating that he’s divine, would idolize him. John continues his discussion of the idolatry with his next line.

13.4 They worshiped the dragon, for he had given his authority to the beast, and they worshiped the beast , saying, “Who is like the beast, and who can fight against it?”

Here, John describes the worship and rule of the Rome and Nero, and the power given to him by Satan.

13.5 The beast was given a mouth uttering haughty and blasphemous words, and it was allowed to exercise authority for forty-two months.

John uses the number Forty two months, or three and a half years. This may be another reference to Daniel. In Daniel 7:25b the angelic host says “…and they shall be given into his power for a time, two times, and a half a time.” If we take “a time” to mean a year, then we have exactly 42 moths.

13.6 It opened its mouth to utter blasphemies against God, blaspheming his name and his dwelling, that is, those who dwell in heaven.

This seems to be a straightforward way of reinforcing the blasphemous nature of Nero’s reign. Because of the Jewish belief that God actually lives in the, by destroying or in any way desecrating the temple, Nero would be blaspheming his dwelling, and those who dwell with him. The blasphemy continues with the next line.

13.7 Also, it was allowed to make war on the saints and to conquer them. It was given authority over every tribe and people and language and nation,

Some believe that the war with the saints alludes to the persecution of Judeans during the first Jewish war with Rome, and it seems to be the accepted interpretation, since it is supported by the notes in the Harper Collins study bible. And if we accept that the Beast is Rome, then we know that it had military authority over much of the known world at the time, as further described in 13:8.

13.8 and all inhabitants of the earth will worship it, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb that was slaughtered.

Here we are reminded of the book of life mentioned throughout scripture (Ex 32:32, Dan 12.1, Phil 4.3, etc). The book of life is a metaphor for salvation where the names written for acceptance by God. This line tells us that those who succumb to Nero’s law of blasphemy (that is, worshiping emperors as gods) would not find salvation. The Lamb, is, of course, meant to represent Jesus (John 1:29). Idolatry is one of the cardinal sins of Judaism. Worshiping Nero and his predecessors is idolatry, and a sure fire way to get one’s name blotted out of that book.

Throughout this chapter, and others, we are given many descriptions of Rome and Nero as the Beast, including the numerology of Nero’s name, the legend of his revival from death, and his laws of blasphemy and the persecution of John’s people. Given the evidence, it’s extremely likely that Rome and Nero are who he was referring to when writing Revelation. One has to concede, however, that the symbolism is just vague enough that it can be applied to many different times and many different places, which is why it has maintained people’s fascination for nearly 2000 years.

TL;DR The Beast is Ancient Rome, circa first century. It's all right there, believe it or not. It's not a prophesy, it's a historical apocalypse written around the time of the Jewish Revolt that ended up destroying the second temple.