Police slam CodePink protester to the ground

reply to post by alienj


Hitting women is a no-no. I don't care who you work for.

that wasn't a real video it was obviously computer cgi graphics no cop would do that. and 911 never happened either

I don't really understand why they grabbed her at the end when she was talking to the media, if she needed to be arrested, surely the best time would have been when they'd already knocked her down?

Seems pretty disgusting, but I await an unedited video before making a final judgement.

reply to post by Spoodily


I agree very much. I don`t care what training you have to become a cop, when you are in a situation like what happened with this woman, being a cop, you still have a conscience, if it wasn`t totally ripped from your soul during training. Or, should I say, if you even had one to start with. If you had a conscience, it would make you stop and think first before you jump the gun.

as a denver resident, i felt like doing that to a few people that singled me out for my appearance as a potential target of their ire, especially after i was called a fascist.

i was on the bus.

reading a book.

i also saw this same woman calling denverites in general fascists just for living in the city that hosts the convention.

imagine what she said to the police.

[edit on 27-8-2008 by angrypsycho1977]

GUys while I don't condone this action at all. You really have to research some more on code pink, this group of protestors is simply moronic, as they manage to achieve nothing other than annoying people and blocking traffic.. I feal bad for the girl but she pushed the officers buttons and as some do with short tempers they retaliate without thinking. I am sure this officer will be repremanded for his actions. To other code pink people this could be a lesson, don't taunt police. LOL if this was China she would be dead.

reply to post by TaZCoN


As an older member of ATS, I can tell you how bad this can get if the police are not held accountable for their actions. And in the last 15-20 years or so, they have not been held accountable. It will not matter how much video you capture with your cameras, it will not matter how much or how often you complain. The police at this point in our history are above the law. They own the law and the system that protects them and allows them the freedom to abuse the public in any way they see fit, at any time.

The only thing you can do is to vote in your local elections as well as the national elections. Make your local police, state police, always accountable, even if it means that justice appears too slow at times.

When I was young, I witnessed cops committing crimes, and they did not have to answer for it. They simply said "they were just do their job" when some commie got in their way. They used other words when commie didn't seem right. Words like 'n-word' or junkie or fag or hippy were common place at that time and if you were labeled as one of these, it was ok to deny you any rights.

President Kennedy started the change, Johnson followed through, but since then the presidential administrations haven’t done much if anything positive for the individual’s rights and protection of the individual’s rights. They have either done nothing at all or helped to remove our rights.

I remember so vividly the words of Ronald Reagan, “we will not tie the hands of our police, and they must be allowed to do their jobs without fear of persecution, without fear of reprisal”. This simply means that they are no longer held accountable for their actions. The same phrase has been used throughout history to give a fascist government autonomous control over the public. I was deeply saddened when I heard these words come from man I had elected as president.

How bad can it get? A cop has the power and resources to execute a greater amount of crime than any other person in our society if left to their own scrutiny. They can have a personal grudge against you, beat you, kill you, all on camera and broadcast for the world to see without being held accountable. Can attack a motorist, shoot them, kill them with extreme violence and claim that they thought they saw him holding a weapon. They can just reach out and attack a passer-by because they just feel frustrated with their job at times and suffer no consequence. They can kill off someone they simply do not like because of race, creed, religion, sexual orientation with only a strong word from their supervisor about bringing the wrong attention to their department. In short, they can lie, steal, murder, rape and plunder if left to their own vices, as they are just as human as the public they are to serve. That is how bad it can get and worse if the public is not vigilant. How bad has it been in your recent memory?

The public must remain vigilant and watchful over all branches of the government, including the enforcement branch, at all times. It is still our government, right? Try to remain non-emotional and think clearly about the issues, not allowing someone to sway us with rhetoric or hyperbole. Observe the facts, and just as importantly, how the facts apply to an issue.

My sympathy for the young lady in the pink and my scorn to the officers involved. The DNC is a place for anyone seeking the attention of the politicians to be observed, not beaten. The officers are there for the public safety of all present, not just a select few.

They should have hit her harder. This is what the group wants, a reaction. They got it.

Bam.

Sickening.
Then again that happens everywhere.
Everywhere we see those, in a position of power, over enforcing it.
I hope they got that stupid officers badge number.

Also why remove her from the scene?
Its clear after that she is in no way obstructing an officer.

Just lame.

Originally posted by Dulcimer
They should have hit her harder. This is what the group wants, a reaction. They got it.

Bam.

It`s comments like this that makes me wonder about todays society. " They should have hit her harder." Yea, let`s just give her one more big ol whack just for good measures. Like the two of them were on an even playing field. Let`s see, did she have a gun? Not that I`m aware of. A club or knife? Hummm, I didn`t see any, did you?

I hope that in the future you never find yourself on the receiving end of a police baton, because if you do, would you want them to just give you one more big ol whack for good measures?

Oh yea, I know, you would never do anything that would call for something like this, right? Well, tell that to the ones who have had beatings like this, and never did anything to justify this treatment.

I am no fan of Code Pink, a gaggle of seriously naive women. However, if this kind of police response to public protest continues, then the guns will come out, and things will get very, very ugly. The next American civil war, when it comes, will not be like the last one. It will be more like the Spanish civil war - no quarter and no civility.

What is wrong with you people ? Seriously you are insane ?

The police are there for the protection of the public - this is their primary concern. They are NOT there to serve government interests over that of the public, the government IS the public servant.

You do NOT have the right to justify this type of action based on a persons affiliations - this is what creates social divisions.

If you feel in anyway that assaulting a member of the public in any way shape or form is in any manner justified then you are lost. Totally.

the police DO NOT and nor should they have a mandate for vengeance, retribution or violence in any manner or form.

It is only ever acceptable to use a level of force or commensurate with that being directed upon you and only in self defence - PERIOD.

Violence by the government against its own citizens is the darkest form of social tyranny there is - there is no where deeper or darker for your government to go, there is no impending doom, no darkness or impending fascist state because it has arrived already. You have welcomed it with open arms, it has arrived.

You people need to desperately stand up to this type of outrageous tyranny - people are going to start dying.

Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by DeadFlagBlues

 

I'm not anti-protest, nor am I for Cops who overreact.

I was referring to the tone of her voice and the fact we do not know what happened before the scene came into view. Nobody here knows.

What happened to the second lady was just plain wrong and angers me as much as anyone here.

I also know that it is not beyond reason to think that this whole scene was instigated on purpose by Code Pink. It would not be the first time in fact.

Peaceful protesters, I would lay down my life for.

Violent protesters need to go home, slap their parents for raising such a jerk and grow up before they come back out in public.

since when is tone a voice a violent act? The officer commited assault plain and simple.. if some girl yells at you and says # off! or whatever and then you push her down well... you can expect to face charges... unless the woman attacked the officer the officer had no legal right to do that. Plain and simple nothing justifies pushing a woman down.... are you in the habit of doing this? I seriously hope not because from the looks of it you are not condoning the officers actions from the assault... I seriously question your morality and ethics.

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott

Give me a break. That's so far from reality, it's ludicrous.

Conduct yourself in a civil manner and you can say anything you wan't in America, as long as you don't insult one of our hyper-sensitive minorities.

I think the Pastor Niemoller quote is entirely relevant, especially in this day and age, heres another "Those who forget the sins of the past are doomed to repeat them".

Do the police count as an over-sensitive minority now?

It would be interesting to see more of the footage from this if available.

Originally posted by GradyPhilpott
Given Code Pink's reputation and their documented tactics, including harassing Marine recruiters, the benefit of the doubt goes to the police and frankly, that's the most heartwarming video I've seen in a long time.



[edit on 2008/8/26 by GradyPhilpott]

yeah...can't wait for them to start beating to the ground all those religious wackos with their signs about jesus showed in your face...or the pictures of fetuses carried by protesters of the anti-abortion crowd...the police should club the sh-t out of those people too. women, kids, and all of them who obstruct traffic... i mean this is america...land of equal kick-*ss

Originally posted by knows_but_doesnt
...A city must ENFORCE the law,


and not let it's people run the show. ...

I have separated the first part and the last part of his quote. Read it again and again until you understand what he is saying.


(And now for a generous helping of morning sarcasm)

ALL HAIL THE LAW! BOW DOWN TO THE SUPREME LAW! FOR LAW WAS NOT CREATED FOR THE CITIZENS, BUT CITIZENS FOR THE LAW! YOU MERE CITIZENS CANNOT CALL INTO QUESTION OUR GREAT AND MIGHTY LEADERS! WHAT KIND OF PATRIOTS ARE YOU IF YOU ALLOW PEOPLE THE FREEDOM OF SPEECH! HOW CAN YOU DARE TO STAND FOR PEOPLE YELLING STUPID SLOGANS AND HOLDING SIGNS! WHY DON'T YOU KNOW THIS IS THE ABSOLUTE ANTITHESIS OF LIBERTY AND FREEDOM!
end sarcasm

These people should take advice from Thomas Jefferson. They should have men with rifles and gas masks at the front of their line. All of the "heroic" cops seem to become cowards when faced with superior firepower. (The same cannot, it seems, be said of our armed forces men)

I don't really care much for Code Pink, but I do like some of the things they stand for.

I do however not like what I saw in this video. I mean?

The scariest part of th is video, is how the Code Pink girl is standing talking to some reporters while all of a sudden, she dissapears.

A frightning sneek peek of what our futures (across the world) will look like.

Peace,
FK

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reply to post by audas


Not everyone could be or should be a police officer, if a cop can't handle the job, he needs to be replaced with one who can handle it. There are plenty of applicants.

There is never an excuse to strike a person except in self defense, and it just doesn't look like that cop was in any danger from that little girl and certainly not when he went back to grab her while she was being interviewed after she managed to get up from being knock down the first time.