Untersberg - The Mystery Mountain

a reply to: BlueOrb2

On page 12 of this thread, the op mentions that:

The search team who had been looking for them in 1987 did find a checkered blouse near a place they had been. It is common for cave-explorers to leave a piece of clothing outside the cave, should they go missing.

However, this place was not a visible cave entrance but, according to legend, a cave-entrance that only opens on a certain public holidy (Himmelfahrt - Christs Ascension Day) - the 15th of August. The very day the group was at the Untersberg!


I just thought that it is interesting that yesterday was August 15th.

originally posted by: ElOmen
a reply to: white eagle

Gather the seven dragonballs to summon shenron

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Those 7 balls look like 7 stars of the Pleiades to me.
The Moon cycle figure has 25 fingers showing, plus a hand with a short thumb.
And that large star looks like our sun.

So when was this figure drawn, from Norse legend during the early Renaissance?
The Metonic cycle was potentially incorporated into art 6000 BC and definitely used in the antikythera mechanism.

Did the PTB decided to use a third Renaissance/Reich as a trap?

a reply to: BlueOrb2

The "mysterious sounds" in the Alps around Salzburg made some news in May this year, but I must say it was mainly in a few "entertainment" sources.

Here is a video. I am not sure it's genuine, though; it looks very iffy to me. It's somewhat surprising to see that the animals in the video pay absolutely no attention to the sound.

www.heute.at...;art23655,1160909

I do agree that the worldwide phenomenon, if it's genuine (i.e. not explicable by fracking or some other sources that people simply don't know about), is most interesting. And there's no question that the U'berg is one interesting mountain, with lots of undiscovered crypto-history..

** A very hopeful bumpidy bump ?? **

a reply to: fotsyfots

Still way too early.

They didn't catch Nietzsche trying to assassinate the elf king until Jan 3 1889, that was 11 days after Van Gogh lost his ear(lobe) in a sword fight with Gauguin.

Historical reference

originally posted by: Cauliflower
a reply to: fotsyfots

Still way too early.

They didn't catch Nietzsche trying to assassinate the elf king until Jan 3 1889, that was 11 days after Van Gogh lost his ear(lobe) in a sword fight with Gauguin.

Historical reference

Well, another elf king assassinated himself less than 30 days later.

As a former regular of this thread I thank you both for the bump, but I think this thread has flatlined.

Hello,

here are some pics of the mountain I uploaded a long time ago, forgot about the thread and never posted them.
All are taken withing a 2-3km radius of my home.

This one is nice i think, btw thats our lokal river frozen - the red band is the marker how far people are allowed with ice skates.


Summer, backyard.


Same river as before, this time in summer while bathing and drinking some beer


My greygrandfather had a saying, if the mountain has a hat, the weather is getting bad. (sorry it rhymes in german hehe)




That`s it for the moment, maby I find some time in near future to share some storys about that place with you.
Also I will go snowboarding on Untersberg very soon again, maby I take a video from the top and post it.

Greetings
Sani

Wow found some ATS gold With this thread.

time to dig in

Topics like this is why ATS is great I thought it was falling down the mudslide of politics but there is light at the end of the tunnel.

a reply to: avrapex

Yeah but they are buried deep in the Archives.

Plus the post was from years ago......good luck having someone post a thread like this today

this is what ATS use to be.

Wow, just joined after reading this entire thread. I've just lived your last 9 years in 2 days (talk about time travel )..i was interested in learning more about this mountain and you have all provided a very comprehensive in depth look at both history and myth. The information that has been compiled here is the best the internet..or anywhere has to offer..so thank you! Its sad that this was created so long ago as its just so fascinating! I hope something happens soon to reinvigorate this chat!

originally posted by: Sanitarium79
Hello,

here are some pics of the mountain I uploaded a long time ago, forgot about the thread and never posted them.
All are taken withing a 2-3km radius of my home.

This one is nice i think, btw thats our lokal river frozen - the red band is the marker how far people are allowed with ice skates.

Summer, backyard.

Same river as before, this time in summer while bathing and drinking some beer

My greygrandfather had a saying, if the mountain has a hat, the weather is getting bad. (sorry it rhymes in german hehe)

That`s it for the moment, maby I find some time in near future to share some storys about that place with you.
Also I will go snowboarding on Untersberg very soon again, maby I take a video from the top and post it.

Greetings
Sani

Hiya Sani, please don't take this the wrong way & I truly mean you not the slightest disrespect, but I had to post/bump in the hope that as your blissfully spoiled by this regions beauty/mystery & resonating fascination to so many of us not blessed to live with such historical natural awestrikingly infamous place of wonder in a literal stones throw vicinity of your back yard,by looks.
I beg you to please take some time & compile some of these stories you speak of ??!?
I can gaurantee you my friend if you can do so you will undoubtedly be single handedly providing real true joy to literally dozens on dozens if not, grateful members numbering the hundreds.
A brief moment of your time, some clicks of keyboard & you my friend are due a wave of collected appreciation, love and good tidings that surely mustn't be left to sit idle with many, many , many untersberg fanatisists muttering " If only's & what if's & I wonders ".
It is after all coming up to be close on a year ago you said you would share some personal retained stories of this enigmatic region.
I'm sure if we did a poll we could even find a member prepared to name an impending birthchild with your namesake for contributing new stories & info.
Lol, OK that last sentence I agree is over the top cheesy, but please even for this inquisitive Aussie bloke.......please post the yarns ya got?

I think it is awesome that this thread is still going after all these years. I can remember reading through it when it was new, seems I have a lot of catching up to do.

So, seems like this thread is dead... Again.
Looks like i have to post something new here then.
But only if People are still intersted in this, 'cause if got something that only I know about this god-forsaken mountain that everyone admires so damn highly...

a reply to: Sword0fJustice


Well, there's only one way to find out. I for one, check in regularly to see if things are moving, and I know at least one other does from time to time also, and so I dont believe it's dead quite yet.


I will be eagerly awaiting your post.

So, BlueOrb, are You familiar with the Simulation Hypothesis (That this Life is not real and merely a "computer Simulation") and Parallel Universes?
Also: Have You encountered "Glitches" and Coincidences, that were really and i mean REALLY strange? For example someone surviving the impossible and you ask Yourself: "Theres no way he could've survived THAT?!"

a reply to: Sword0fJustice


Simulation Hypothesis - yes, I've heard of it. I don't subscribe to it being fact, however. I think The Matrix did a lot to bolster that particular theory.

Parallel Universes - yes, although again, without absolute proof, it remains just a theory.

Glitches and coincidences - sure, I think we have all had experiences we have found to be weird, and that make us think that it's such a coincidence there must be something more to it. As for surviving the impossible, I think us humans can be remarkably resilient when the chips are down, either by willpower, stamina, or just by natural instincts.


So what's the link to the mountain? I'm dying to know now.... :-)

Good =)
You are inaugurated then.

This will be a huge post. So i will try to minimze it:
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Part 1.
There have been many times where i "saw" connections or, like i would like to call them, "parallels".
Strangely enough no one, except me, noticed them. So i questioned myself:
"Are people everywhere in this world this blind? This just can't be it. How can i be the only one seeing the very obvious connection?"
That's what i was asking. And now i'm (finally) sharing it with the world.

I've come across many legends and myths where either entire cities disappeared or are underground / submerged.
So we all can consider this a popular topic to be found in folklore. What's more interesting is the fact that somehow
i noticed a pattern. Like Life itself is trying to tell me something. And it wasn't just for the sh1ts and giggles.

No.

It has to mean something.

Now here is what i mean-
Some time ago i found a Video game. At first i disliked it, because the fandom was / still is cancer.
Then, at first glance, i was shocked because the graphics are really bad. But somehow i still watched the walkthrough on YouTube, despite all these "flaws". But In the end, this game would change me forever. Now let me ask a question:

How can a single Video game have EVERYTHING in common with this particular mountain where the game developer himself doesn't even have a clue about the said mountain? How is that possible?
I even asked him, if his game was some kind of occult joke, because i assumed he knew everything about it and was
part of the New World Order. Like he is a paid puppet. But that was sadly not the case.

No. It can't be so shallow. It would be too easy then, to find out the "truth".

It goes way deeper then that.

The game is called "UNDERTALE". Look it up. What does all of it remind You guys about? Some people here may already
know what i mean, some might never even have heard about it before. Nevertheless, i'll try to lay out all the connections i "see".
We can already see a connection beginning with the name: UNDERTALE.
Why is it called like that?
Well, for one thing it's a "tale" or a story that plays inside a mountain, namely Mount Ebott.
Second, we, as the protagonist fall down a HOLE inside a cave in the mountain and that's where the game starts.
But why call it like that? Why not INNERTALE. Or Mountainstory? Why exactly like that?
Now let's take a look at our fascinating mountain. UNTERSBERG. If we take the "s" out we get
UNTERBERG. -> Berg (Mountain) 4 letters.
UNDERTALE- -> Tale also 4 letters.
Both have the word UNDER / UNTER in it. So that's funny, eh?
Some might already have a chuckle here and think this means nothing. Sure, i told that myself, too when i started to see these things.
But there's more =)

At the beginning the intro in the game says the following: "Mt. Ebott - 201X. Legends say that those who climb the mountain never return"

Sound familiar?

Yep.

The lost people of the Untersberg. Some even never to be seen again. Still funny? No? Moving on...
The (almost) very first True "Monster" You encounter in the game (we should call them "beings" or "entities" instead, as the word "monster" isn't very well-intended in our human society) is called TORIEL.
The game developer Toby Fox knows more then he admits, i'm afraid. He named many beings after angels and spirits known in the Torah or the Bible. So keep that in mind.
Ok. So she's named Toriel, so what?
Well. Take a look at how she looks like:
(I'm not going to add any pictures here. You have to look everything up on Yourself. Excuse me)
She wears a robe with an very intersting symbol on it. It's the so called "Delta Rune". It reminds me of the Anunnaki. So definitely some hidden messages implented in this game. Damn Illuminati. Or not..? You decide.

Also, she is barefooted. Somehow understandable as she is part animal, part human. But other "beings" do in fact wear shoes and stuff...
What does this remind You of?

Yes, the monks of the Untersberg!

They are BAREFOOTED, too! And wear robes. What's so interesting about someone being barefooted? Well, either they are an hippie (strong connection and reasoning with nature) or they are just poor. But they are strangely not poor, despite living in a mountain? (Regarding all the Gold inside our Untersberg and the fact that TORIEL is the wife of KING ASGORE... And Kings and Queens are ALWAYS rich!) So what's the deal? And why was is noticed even by Lazarus Gitschner himself?
Because even in medieval times people wore shoes. So that was odd even back then.

Next, we go with Toriel through a Gate.. A gate, you say? An arch? An PORTAL? Because if You enter through some of
these gates some omnious sound is being played and you really start the game (After the "ruins" chapter). Like a Portal.

Alright, things will get even wierder from here on now.

Now we take a look at the location, the cirumstances and the environment of the Underground in UNDERTALE and the
UNTERSBERG.
Both are Mountains (duh!), but both have a big city in thier proximity (Namely Salzburg in Untersberg). Both, Mount Ebott and Untersberg are water sources (Untersberg water is considered holy and healing.)
While Mount Ebott has an entire underground region in it called "Waterfall". It's an damp and swampy area with many waterways, creeks, rivers and underground seas.
Then there is an area in Mt. Ebott called "Snowdin". As the name already implies, it always snows inside there and everything is covered in snow and ice.
Alright? Ok. What about the Untersberg? Well, it too, got some ICY caves.

The most notable is the Schellenberger Eishöhle and the Kolowratshöhle. Or it was icy, 'til some idiots destroyed the cave a bit. Oh well.

Both mountains have an ENTIRE city in them.

Untersberg has the underground city full of churches and stuff. Lots of religious guys, too.
Mt. Ebott has an underground city called the "capitol" or "New Home" with all the inhabitants being entities or mythical creatures. There is also the "Judgement Hall" which resembles an old gothic CHURCH. When the player arrives there a church bell is being heard 3 (!) times.

Then we have the ruins in Undertale. Basically the old capitol from the "monsters" left to decay in the beginning of the game. The ruins are inside the mountain (like everything else in this game).
Untersberg also has some ruins. Most notable the Hallthurm Feste. Now there are only parts of the wall and a single tower left. But these ruins appear outside the mountain. Maybe our Untersberg has some ruins inside him, too? Who knows...

Now it get's even funnier!

Both, the game and our Untersberg have a KING inside a Mountain! Toby Fox even named an song "BERGENTRÜCKUNG".
Untersberg has Charles the fifth/ Charlemagne/ King Friedrich or King Barbarossa as the King. Or ODIN, according to the celtic/ germanic Druids. Some "illuminated people" even call the Untersberg not only Mitternachtsberg (even Jesus called it like that in the bible), but also as ODINSBERG.

Mount Ebott in Untertale has KING ASGORE residing inside the mountain.

Because Europe was HEAVILY and forcibly christianized we all can assume that the King inside Untersberg is NOT Charles / Charlemagne.

So both "Stories" have a King inside a mountain. That too, is popular ALL AROUND europe and can be found in Myths,
legends and local folklore. Nothing special you say, as the creater of the game just chose an regular topic!

Part 2.
But there's more:

Both Kings have an ENTIRE Army at thier disposal. (I will now call the King in the Untersberg as the "Untersbergking")

Asgore has his royal guard with Captian Undyne as thier leader.
Untersbergking has an ancient (germanic) army with him as (according to the Charlemagne Version) Paladin Roland thier leader.

Now why do i point that out? Look at the chosen name for the Royal Guard Captian: Undyne. Why call "her" like that?

(She's an sort of an repitilian-shark woman by the way)
She also appears in a well-known german myth and is called "Undine". If You speak out her name in german it sounds like "Uhn-diinä".
If You pronounce the german word for Paladin You speak it like "Pah-lah-diin" Both sound very similiar. So i find that odd. Also, in military terms, Undyne would be classified as an Paladin because she stands very close to King Asgore.

Moving on.

Both kings are forced to stay inside thier mountains.

King Asgore and the "monster race" are trapped inside Mount Ebott because 7 Human sorcerers in medieval times
(There was a war between humans and monsters) created an magical barrier that traps them all underground. Only a being with a powerful soul can leave the Underground. Everything else can enter it. But it will remain trapped there until hey get a powerful (human) soul.

The Untersbergking and his entire army / people where "entzücked" (cursed) by dwarfes (According to the Charlemagne Version) and have to stay inside the Untersberg until thier time comes and when they are needed the most.

Both, the game and the Untersberg have an occuring theme in them:

The End of the World.
And:
The final war between Good and Evil.

The Untersberg Legends say that when the King finally awakens (because his beard has wound itself 3 / 10 times around the round marble table) the end of the world has come. In other version there needs to fly an specific number of ravens around the Mountain or none at all. A way different version tells us, that one needs to steal the scepter from the king and hit the mountain 3 (!) times to summon him or awaken him.
Then they will all go out of the mountain and battle on the Walser Feld for humanity and restore the golden Age (..again) and there will be no hunger, no need and no evil on this planet (This already happend MULTIPLE times!)
The field will be filled with so much blood that it will pour into one's shoes.
Now the question is who's blood is it gonna be?! Certianly it won't be only the blood from evil beings! So innocent people will die. Keep that in mind, guys.

In Undertale, if the Player fails (e.g.: dies or gets captured) then King Asgore will finally get the last of the 7 human souls to destroy the barrier and eradicate all of Humanity. He will become like a god with 7 human souls. (Every "Boss Monster" can be a God with 7 human souls in Undertale)

So that's a pretty bad "ending", but the game has many more:
A Pacifist Ending
Many Neutral Endings
And....
A Genocide Ending

The game is very different from many other games as You don't have to kill anyone to achieve Your goals (Pacifist Ending). Neither do You actually have to hurt anybody. So that's something You don't get to see often in games. But it's possible to kill everyone and everything (Genocide / No Mercy Ending). It's up to the player.

Now.

Why do i tell You guys something about a silly and childish game? Why did i mention the Matrix and Simulation

Hypothesis before? What do all these "Parallels" mean? Why does it have to be a game?
Also: Why did this game get SO popular? Hasn't anyone noticed how badly made it is from a visual perspective seen?
Yet many people bought it and the hype for it was GIGANTIC! How? Even the trailer was bad!

Well, to be blunt: This game means a lot more then i would readily acknowledge. Because People would call me crazy and addicted to the game. And therefore no one would listen any further.
And to be fair: Who wouldn't think like that?

I don't think this post does any justice on what i actually witnessed and found out after all these months.
So i'll let ya guys assimilate this info before i continue any further, as it will get only darker, yet darker =)

a reply to: Sword0fJustice

Hey thanks for reviving this post. Just commenting on it makes it appear in the "recent" section of ATS.

Old school ATS gold!