[HOAX]Real spirit photos from my neighborhood![HOAX]

I didn't notice anything unusual about any of the photos except the one with the figure. Upon taking a closer look at the pixels, you can clearly see it was modified.

reply to post by Lebowski achiever

Why don't you try to remove her from the picture, then? You will find no more than whitness behind her. She is transeparent, but you can't remove her. Stare at the picture a moment, let it soak in, and close your eyes. The image seems to BURN in your head. You should feel a prescence when you think about it.

reply to post by Parabol


Maybe this man IS the spirit we ran from. I remeber the fear of everyone around as we ran. I remember everything like it was yesterday. I assure you, I did not place this picture here. You may have found a VERY GOOD match, but maybe that's because the man in the picture and our spirit are the SAME person. You can try to take it apart, but there will be NOTHING behind it.

reply to post by ElGatoLoco698


If it was modified, then YOU, yes you, can take it apart. All you have to do is try to seperate the "code". If you can do it sucessfully, then you win. But, if you can't, well; I won't "I told you so" like crazy or anything. Just give it a try.

reply to post by Monsterenergy791

Sorry, but I'm afraid you are mistaken. The truth is, I was there. NO ONE can debunk THAT. Why don't YOU try to take the images apart. No one else has tried. That's because they can't. Where there is no background behind an image, despite how fake it looks, you cannot remove the person or thing in the image. If there was nothing behind it to begin with, you can't remove it. It's part of the picture; FOREVER...

Ok, well here is a question:

How do you tell the difference between spirits who look like orbs on camera, and orbs that are created by dust, rain, etc.?

reply to post by Michelle129

Well, Michelle. This guy may be able to put up a fight, a GOOD one, but he can't PROVE anything. The only way to PROVE these wonderous pictures are fake, is to remove the subject from it's setting. You can't remove these spirits from their pictures without seeing NOTHING behind them. NOTHING...

reply to post by greeneyedleo


You're absolutely right, GELeo. No one can fool us. We are the open-minded individuals of the world. We are the seekers; the investigators, the above secret. But, remeber this: NO ONE can say ANYONE is a hoaxer, without the proper proof. In this case, you would HAVE to be able to pull apart the subject from the images and see the background behind it where it was pasted. If you try to seperate this, you will end up just cutting the subject out; leaving nothing but whiteness in the shape of which you made the cut. It is ONE picture; one code, one sillouette, one prescence...

reply to post by CrusaderOne

Well, take them apart, then. You will find that it is not possible without cutting the subject from it's photo and leaving nothing behind it. You see, if you can't reverse the process, than it never occured. That's teh thing with processes; they can ALWAYS be reversed if they really DID occur. In this case, no such "alterations have been made.

reply to post by supersaint

Well, you see, they LOOKED real because they ARE real. I'd like to see you prove me wrong by taking them apart from which I allegedly "constructed" them. Personally, I am an artist, but I am not a hoaxer. I assure you, if you try to seperate these spirits from their respected sites, you will not be able to do it without deliberately CUTTING them out with the generic paint program. These photo's and their essences are here to stay...

reply to post by Alora

Great question! To give you my opinion, I believe dust is very much to occur in many different shapes and sizes. When you're looking at orbs, you can see how it looks like an onion that has been cut in half. You can see rings starting from the edge and going to it's center. All of the "orbs" in these pictures are round, glowing, spherical-looking energies. When we take pictures, we all stay very still so not to disturb ANY extra dust we may have on our entering of the attic. Even staying still, the second picture was SURPRISINGLY more concentrated with orbs. The feeling in our guts of an extra prescence became stronger afer this. We left the house to go back home. That's when we were apparently chased all the way back.

Originally posted by Alister
reply to post by supersaint

 

They ARE real. You can't take them apart. No one can take them apart. If you remove the ghost, there will be whitness behind it; nothing more.

If it was modified, then YOU, yes you, can take it apart. All you have to do is try to seperate the "code". If you can do it sucessfully, then you win. But, if you can't, well; I won't "I told you so" like crazy or anything. Just give it a try.

What do you mean, take it apart? What code?
Please clarify, because this makes no sense!


[edit on 8/22/2008 by greeneyedleo]

Hey there guys,

Interesting pics either way. But just to be sure I've asked Internos to work his magic when he gets a minute.

Most of us know the expertise of Internos and know that he will have an answer one way or the other that can be totally relied on and as accurate as we're ever likely to get.

To the OP ...

1/ soldier pic - looks a little fake (but I'm no expert) ...

2/ girl pic - very cool and very authentic looking (but I'm no expert)


If they are both fake now would be a good time to come clean rather than wait to be outed by Internos (who really is as good as they get) !

If they are real he will add his authentication ... and you may just have caught some impressive spirits on camera !

Personally I would love them to be real ... there have been too many hoaxers on ATS of late (damn them summer breaks)

Here's hoping. Woody

reply to post by greeneyedleo


Well, you see. A fake picture can be taken apart by means of seperating the added content from the original picture before it was modified. If the subject (in this case, the spirits in the photos) was in the original picture when it was taken, you cannot remove it from the picture without leaving behind the white sillouette when the subject was before it was taken out. If someone makes a fake picture, they have to "paste" the image they want onto the picture. If you can bring something life, you can take it away. A fake subject can be pulled right out of a picture, leaving what was behind it to begin with. If the subject was already there, then a hole will be left in the picture where it was removed. In other words, you can't remove a tree from the ground without hurting it's roots. A FAKE tree, however, was MADE to where you can pull it out by reverse means of how it was put in, no matter how REAL the fake tree looks.

Did this help any?

Originally posted by Alora
Ok, well here is a question:

How do you tell the difference between spirits who look like orbs on camera, and orbs that are created by dust, rain, etc.?

Lol you can't especially since I'm 115% sure those orbs are rain or some sort of moisture on the camera. This guy can't be serious.

*edit*
Also um, couldnt it just be one of this guys friends with a hoody on? From a few yards away in the headlights of one of the guys cars?

[edit on 8/22/2008 by degenerate oto]

reply to post by woodwytch


Well, Woody. When Internos gets here to prove my photos are authentic, you have to add me as your friend! Once he proves it, you know you can trust ANY other evidence I pick up on paranormal activity; no matter how "awesome"! I'm glad you don't just call them fake; that's how I know you are the real deal. You, as well as I, are ABOVE TOP SECRET!

reply to post by degenerate oto

Oh? Is that what you believe, now? You just wait until a REAL expert comes to show YOU and EVERYONE ELSE who doubted me that these pictures are... TRULY AMAZING!!!!

Originally posted by Alister
A fake subject can be pulled right out of a picture, leaving what was behind it to begin with. If the subject was already there, then a hole will be left in the picture where it was removed.

No it can't. That's silly.

When you paste a "fake subject" into a digital (or film for that matter) image you're not putting something on top of something, you're replacing what was there before. The original information is lost.

If you're talking about photoshop layers that's an entirely different matter but your photos do not have layers.


[edit on 22-8-2008 by Phage]

reply to post by Alister


It's a deal ... if Internos gives them the thumbs up you'll see your name added to my 'friends' list ... in return I shall expect to hear the full story of your ghost-hunting exploits.

(I neither dismiss nor accept anything that is potentially paranormal until all the logical alternatives have been eliminated).

And yes, I am the 'real deal' so you should also know that I don't suffer fools gladly, and if the pics are proven fake then you could well find yourself the 2nd person on my 'foe' list.

Now we wait. Woody

reply to post by Alister


You can obviously only do that if you have the original copies of the photo as edited in Photoshop with the different layers.

....fraud!