America is not afraid to kick Russia out of Georgia

if america attacks russia in gorg!!!

iran attacks troops in iraq & afganistan...

isreal attacks iran....

europe attacks russia...

china attacks america...

india attacks china...

autralia attacks north korea....

WWIII



but i honestly feel its time we all got this of are chest enuffs enuff wot will be will be,

Well said kcire. There's truly some seriously disturbed people in this world. I just can't relate to these people. There's obviously something wrong with the way their brains are wired. Unfortunately, most of them tend to be our leaders and also the idiots who follow them and believe in their dishonourable cause.

It was Georgia who started this fight and they got exactly what they deserved. The Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili is a psychotic nut case. Why hasn't this man been arrested for his war crimes after having ordered the invasion & slaughter of at least 2000 innocent people in South Ossetia. This is just another example of how corrupt and how far western governments have fallen. Thank god Russia intervened, because if they had not, that figure would probably now be in the hundreds of thousands, but I guess it's ok to commit genocide if you're a fully fledged rigged democracy backed by the west.

www.timesonline.co.uk...

USA picking a fight with Russia is an absurdity. Both sides will come out mauled. Dropping nukes to different cities will be inevitable for both the U.S and Russia.

I believe the OP is pulling our legs But if you are not you are out of your mind or you are a chicken-hawk!!!!

I dont think so. We should not start a war. Prob is. Russia wants our oil. This is a conpoericy. russsia no offence can fornicate off. We will pull out. But I will tell you this. You fornicators better pill out when it comes our time to gett rd of suicide bombers. Peace.


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Evil persists when good men do nothing

Russia doesn't understand lightweight, emotional small-talk and hollow threats. Russia never will, because it never had to. All you're dong is writing a "nasty letter" and not doing anything about it.

Did this stop Hitler? Did it stop Napolean? No.

It's what a woman would do (write a nasty letter), and men in power don't understand this. They are greedy. Putin is greedy. Putin is essentially a murderer too. Not directly, but by his forces killing anyone that isn't Russian, including children. Specifically targeting civilians.

It's time to take Russia down once and for all. Hand them their a$s. We have the world's most superior military, but if we let Russia (and China) continue to build - it will only be worse later. We will always be at odds, unless there is an Alien invasion and we all have a common objective to save humanity.

Until then, we have to keep Tyrants like Putin down. Stand up and be proud - let him learn a lesson first-hand.

It won't come to Nuclear weapons, and Russia has already lost some of their inventory to the Chechnyan Mafia who has sold on the Black Market.

Russia isn't anything like it was militarily before as the Soviet Union. It's time to get them out of Georiga and destroy most of their tanks and planes there.

By fearing to do so now, will only create a much bigger problem later.

Fear must be removed and what must be done - must be done.

Randy Echo,

You sir are rad. I've been thinking the same thing.

Georgia came to us wanting one thing - freedom from Russian imposed tyranny. They fought w/ us in Iraq and furthermore and just as important in terms of them being a great little country - they really worked hard and largely accomplished stamping out institutional corruption.

Did they shell Ossettians, Russians first? If so, this is why it's all going down - Russia is as pissed as we (America) would be if another superpower was messing around near our borders. If China or Russia was helping Latin American countries or Canada # would be the same.

The Russians were horrifically attacked by Hitler during WW2. They lost an ungodly amount of people. Without them fighting the Germans, the Allies would have lost.

The Russians are a proud and weary of other powers with good reason.

But this isn't Russian gamemanship anymore - this is war. I think they are just slowly starting a war on purpose.

And I think we will fight back and I don't think Russia's military will survive. At all. Yes the Russians can easily hit us HARD - no matter our missle shield - but we can hit them harder and quicker - giving us an edge for victory. If not, America is still the raddest country ever.

Russia has done nothing wrong. It's Georgia that started this fight and they got exactly what was coming to them. Some of you warmongers are so brainwashed your incapable of seeing the truth and that makes me and every other sane person extremely nervous.

Originally posted by Solarskye
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Why does it always have to be America? There are Europeans over there that can handle this if they wanted to.

This is no longer the America you knew, it is now an Isreali outpost, ask any neocon you know, he will tell you that you now belong to the zionist lost cause

Yes the USA would probably win as in launch the last remaining nuke on earth moments before the last russian nuke lands.

Any conflict between the two countries will HAVE TO go nuclear. There is no other way. Once one side starts to lose and is invaded on their home turf, the ONLY recourse is nuclear.


Don't let any fool -especially those selling a book tell you different.

No defense shield will work against a full scale attack. NO SHIELD WILL WORK.
Nothing in space could possibly stop a full scale attack. Nothing, notta ah ahh. NO ALIENS are going to help, GOD is not going to stop it either. FORGET IT!

It's about time people start protesting BIG TIME, especially since both USA & Canada will be running elections this fall. It's time to DISARM the world. Allow a half dozen or dozen maximum just for deterrent. Any more than that is unnecessary! It's really time we take this shiz seriously. We might be days/weeks/months away from the very end of the line and I haven't got my Lamborghini yet. The world CANNOT end on our watch!!!

Russia, USA, Europe, Asia... It is NOW time to send a clear message to your local, state and federal reps. No kidding. It's NOW time.

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Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
if america attacks russia in gorg!!!

iran attacks troops in iraq & afganistan...

isreal attacks iran....

europe attacks russia...

china attacks america...

india attacks china...

autralia attacks north korea....

WWIII



but i honestly feel its time we all got this of are chest enuffs enuff wot will be will be,

china i dont think will nuke its biggest trading partner i think the russians have realy over done it on this one and the world knows it

Originally posted by kcire

Originally posted by Randy Echo
obviously you believe we havent implemented any kind of protection from nukes, we have, its in place and it works 100 percent of the time, its been tested, and it has about 4 different levels of itself,

1. anti missle umbrella coast to coast, in place
2. particle beam weapons and space based kinetic weapons
3. high altitude ionization that will destroy missles in flight

So I am not worried about russian missles, at all actually so if they want to go that route let em,

They will be the ones living under the ground not us

This is what sickens me the most about 'america'.

Because...What about Europe? That seems to be stuck in the middle...That is were I live you pathetic soldier of misfortune!

So because you can hide and will survive a nuclear attack from the russians (like a cockroach!) the 3th World War should start. What kind of thinking is this?!

Please...You are probably a born-again christian...Ain't ya?

I think you left the army with some kind of syndrome they just don't have a name for yet.

maybe you europeans should do something other than piss and moan most of you ant american morons wouldnt lift a fingur to help your mother if she was being murdered self preservation is all you morons care about and it sickens me this is a problem for everyone not just americans and since your "stuck in the middle" maybe you should pull your damn thumb out of your ass and do something about it instead of taking the popular cop out of blame america.... I wish we could go back to isolationism and just watch the # hit the fan around us just so we could see you begging for US "soldiers of misfortune" to come save your cowaring hides

The shield will work, but only partially. You can arm one missle with multiple Nuclear warheads. These warheads split or 'fan out' to confuse the defense array. Some are dummy warheads to keep it occupied with those while the real ones may get through.

Either way, it wouldn't be good, but Russia would get the worst of it by far. There would be some US cities heavily damaged and Nuclear fallout in the air.

It cannot and should not come to this.

The US needs to get Russia out of Georgia using conventional warfare. They don't listen to speechs, or even worse, sign peace agreements just to buy time and break them a litte while later.



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This big fight is over territory?
What the hell?
Why cant they see that its a pointless fight
I dont understand....

Has Georgia asked for our help or are you suggesting that we just butt into some other country and start a war? It isn't our business and we have no right to be there.

Don’t forget American friend, Vietnam Kicked Your Butt so did Somalia I cannot think of one proper war you were ever victorious in, Without Russia in WW2 you would be speaking German, Georgia attacked Osetia, you would be better off paying pay attention to the plutocrats in power ruining your country. Oh yes the same plutocrats moved jobs of patriotic Americans to the same Vietnam. So you said you where a soldier in the 80’s there were no big wars so you never saw any proper fighting but you would send other peoples children to die. Oh yes Granada you beat in the 1980’s its 133 square miles 100’000 population, I learnt one thing you better look at yourself in the mirror before attacking others Jesus Christ said something to that effect in the bible.

Oh yes Iraq the lies about weapons of mass destruction to start a war on a poxi Arab country run by dictator your government installed and later deposed, even the kingdom of Jordan would have militarily beaten him. Trillions dollars spent on that adventure you would have better spent on your health system

You know, Russia is by no means the good guy in this and neither is Georgia. Everyone seems to always leave out the key point that Georgia went into South Ossetia and started attacking the people out of nowhere because they had a democratic process in which 90% of Ossetians said they wanted to become sovereign from Georgia. Then Georgia goes in and makes them pay for that decision burning house, and people!, throwing grenades in basements where people are trying to take shelter from the madness.

Yeah, Russia seized on the opportunity to fulfill their own agenda but they also were defending the Ossetians because a lot of them are still considered Russian citizens and hold Russian passports. Everyone seems to be under the impression that Russia jsut went in there and started killing Georgians. Noooo....Georgians are the one who started the whole thing most likely on "orders" from the US.

It's kinda odd that Codi Rice was just there a few weeks ago and Georgia attacks Ossetia the day the Olympics start while everyone is preoccupied. Coincidence? No. We've been training their army for a reason. And Georgia knew FULL WELL how the Russians would react. We've got our own troops in Georgia and NATO and your gonna tell me we didn't know what Georgia was up to and how Russia would respond? This is all just a back door war for the US to start something with Russia in a strategical lead up to starting something with Iran. Notice how there's a damn pipeline involved? There's always a pipeline involved! And where you find a conflict over a pipeline America is sure to be there.

Originally posted by MaMaa
Has Georgia asked for our help or are you suggesting that we just butt into some other country and start a war? It isn't our business and we have no right to be there.

you cant be serious.... of course the feorgians asked for help their president pleaded with the US to help. perhaps you think we should allow the reformation of the soviet union? yeah that would be great lets let the russians destabalize the region and bring back the cold war.

www.timesonline.co.uk...

do some research before you make yourself appear uninformed

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Can you explain how we would lose this one on Logistics? I have a very hard time seeing that. There is no way if all hell broke loose that Russia would maintain air supremacy, dominate the med or black sea, or stop ground forces from coming in through Turkey.

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You Fool,What do you mean even If it goes nuclear ,we have the best Nuclear program in the world. JESUS H, ARE YOU F*ING MAD,BECAUSE M.A.D MEANS JUST THAT MUTUALY ASSURED DESTRUCTION. YOUR AN IDIOT WITH NO BRAINS TO EVEN CONTENPLATE NUCLEAR WAR WITH RUSSIA OVER A SUB STATE NAMELY GEORGIA. LET GEORGIA FIGHT ITS OWN BLOODY WAR!