Georgia vs. South Ossetia: From Conflict to Major War, No one will dare attack Russia

Georgia vs. South Ossetia: From Conflict to Major War, No one will dare attack Russia

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In relation to the current situation in Georgia, the international community issued many statements: In general, it is calling confronted parties to respect International Law, and for an immediate end to the armed clashes and resumption of direct talks. In New York, at Russia's request, an emergency session of the United Nations Security Council was held, but failed to reach an agreement on immediately halting of fighting.

Both Georgia and Russia traded counter-accusations; whiles Georgia accused Russia for invasion of land, air, and sea, Russia accused Georgia of genocide against South Ossetians.

According to the latest development there are some pertinent questions that should be asked; these include:

Will the United States seize the opportunity in the current situation in Georgia as an excuse to invade Iran, since they are fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan? By the way, Iran is right in the neighbourhood.

Will the NATO and the EU intervene, and in which form?

Will Russia use the Kosovo situation as an example for South Ossetia?

Is this war foundation of larger Euro-Asian conflicts?

It is still not quite clear what will happen next; however one thing is obvious no country will dare to use military force against Russia, especially not in isolation.

Ivan Simic
Belgrade, Serbia

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Despite the efforts of the US/Israel to embroil and distract Russia in the Gergian conflict whilst they attack Iran its quite clear that the Russians are on the ball and are aware of whats going on in the ME and the planned attack on Iran.

Russia and its allies are not going to sit back whilst the West led the the US attack and rape Iran and it is clear that Russia will take steps to prevent any such attack on Iran or the blockading of the gulf region. China will be watching also to see what happens with the large Armada that is heading for the gulf.

Those who thought the Russian bear was old and thread bare are in for a big shock if Russia and its allies counter any aggressive moves made by the US and its lackies. And one should ask the question do we want ww3?

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Originally posted by magicmushroom

Those who thought the Russian bear was old and thread bare are in for a big shock if Russia and its allies counter any aggressive moves made by the US and its lackies.

What? Just because Russia attacks and wins by defeating a country that does not have armaments makes Russia a big bad bear?

Lets see how long it takes for Russia to completely withdraw their military from Georgian due to the US presence.

And that article is biased due to the authors origin...

Will, do you mean like the US attacking Iraq knowing its military were 3rd rate and were never going to win. Ask yourself what are American and Israeli instructors are doing in a former Soviet enclave and at its borders, its nothing but provocative and Russia has every right to intervene just as the US did in the Cuba crisis, again its double standards from the US.

And buffoon Bush and co have made it quite clear that they intend to attack Iran at some point so yes the Russian bear will get involved in that conflict.

Originally posted by Willbert

Originally posted by magicmushroom

Those who thought the Russian bear was old and thread bare are in for a big shock if Russia and its allies counter any aggressive moves made by the US and its lackies.

What? Just because Russia attacks and wins by defeating a country that does not have armaments makes Russia a big bad bear?

Lets see how long it takes for Russia to completely withdraw their military from Georgian due to the US presence.

And that article is biased due to the authors origin...

Yea keep talking, I want to see how you react when the nukes flying tho.
All that pride, all that hush hush will go away.No one will benefit from that.
Smart thing to do now is calm things down.

Exactly....Russia about to start running back home with tail between their legs.
Though its all going to be due to "diplomatic pressure" right?

Originally posted by magicmushroom
Ask yourself what are American and Israeli instructors are doing in a former Soviet enclave and at its borders........

So, once a Soviet enclave, always a Soviet enclave? Guess the Georgians will never be free to run their own country.

Originally posted by magicmushroom...its nothing but provocative and Russia has every right to intervene just as the US did in the Cuba crisis, again its double standards from the US.

Well, Cuba was bit different, since they had offensive missiles they were putting in there.

Originally posted by magicmushroom And buffoon Bush and co have made it quite clear that they intend to attack Iran at some point so yes the Russian bear will get involved in that conflict.

Really? Bush came out and said, "Hey, guys, we're gonna attack!!"

Pepsi, the problem is that all those die hard US war mogers who cream their pants over the size of the armada heading for the gulf and say the Ruskies cannot match it dont realise they dont have too. One well placed megaton nuke and the whole lot goes to the bottom.

What will the West do then, unleash mass destruction on us all, as you said its time for calm and cool heads but unfortunately there is not lot of that about. Those who run the US/Israel are hell bent on attcking Iran. Russia and co are not going to stand by and let that happen, not because they are best mates but because Russia is rightly concerned about the build up of Nato forces on its borders, just as the US was with the Cuban missile crisis.

This is a very dangerous situation and their will be lots of itchy trigger fingers on all sides and its us the little people who will suffer for it all.

Jerico, Bush and others are on the record of stating that all options are on the table with the issue over Iran and its quite clear what he and the others meant.

And as far as Georgia goes yes they and any other nation have a right to their own independance but its not about that its about the US and Nato ending up on Russia's borders and the threat of attacking Iran and thus the oil supplies to China and Russia.

The US military might be weakened and tired. Due to it's recent wars and stupid politicians, but that doesn't make it weak. The US military still is one of the strongest,well trained, and most battle experinced modern military. That doesn't mean that it doesn't have some powerful foes. Everyone knows that. We would still spank the Russian military up and down Russia. It's going to be obvious how Russia reacts to United States presence. And were not the only countries in the world that are getting pissed off at Russia. Georgia has been trying to plea to the whole world on their situation.

Originally posted by USMC-oorah
The US military might be weakened and tired. Due to it's recent wars and stupid politicians, but that doesn't make it weak. The US military still is one of the strongest,well trained, and most battle experinced modern military. That doesn't mean that it doesn't have some powerful foes. Everyone knows that. We would still spank the Russian military up and down Russia. It's going to be obvious how Russia reacts to United States presence. And were not the only countries in the world that are getting pissed off at Russia. Georgia has been trying to plea to the whole world on their situation.

I don't think any one would able to spank up and down the russian military
in Russia.First of all did you notice how wide russia is? Siberia is cold, russians are used to it others are not.Do you know the man power it would take to invade russia?It would take milions.Not only that but before any of this could happen things would go nuclear.So how do you plan on spanking Russia?I just don't see how.

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If as you say, all options are one the table, then our hole card - 14 Ohio- Class Trident SSBN's probably concern the Russian more than any surface armada headed their way.

Each, almost undetectable, "Boomer" carries 24 Trident I or Trident II ballistic missiles, with each missile containing 5-8 independently targetable reentry vehicles, for a total of around 2,500 nukes. The Trident D5 has a maximum range of more than 7,000 nautical miles. The Ohio-class submarines carry close to 50% of our nuclear arsenal. They can be anywhere. Depending on its location, flight time can be less than 15 minutes to their target. The Russian have them also. Tends to keep both sides with their "pistols holstered".

Even more important, IMO, the international bankers must give their approval. In the 1930-1940's, Brown Brothers Harriman (Prescott Bush) worked in supplying Hitler with its war materials, while at the same time, Averell Harriman was working with Stalin doing the same thing.

Anyone here got any info as to this association. Is it still at work or have the international bankers been given the boot. Who financially backs Russia today?? The Russian Revolution was instigated and funded by the Rothchilds. Are they still in there? If Russia is totally independent of the international bankers and can pay their own way, the situation could deteriorate rather quickly.

I know this is a bit off-post but I feel needs to be brought into the equation. Countries do not go to war without the approval of their financial backers. Bankers love it when they fund both sides of a conflict.

Any imput is appreciated.

Old, yes thats whats its really all about, the money men, it does not matter what the US's or Russia's capabilities are its about those who control the money.

If you have control of the money supply you can do what you like, and that is exactly what the parasites who run the show have been doing for a long long time. That coupled with the media's brainwashing of the people to take sides when in fact all they are is pawns in the World chess game.

As for the boomers yes they will be hard to to hit but not impossible and I'm sure both sides will have each others toe tagged. It would appear that the perps are hell bent on another major conflict and as you can see here many people are jumping up and down with glee at the look how big my weapon is but they fail to realise that the luxury that some countries have had in ovoiding war on their own turf will not be the same this time around.

We are now in an age where a country can be nuked without a shot being fired, I wish people would wake up, switch their brains on and realise just what the implications are for them if it all goes to plan. Even if certain countries are not attacked their economies can be devastated by war ocuring elsewhere.

None of this is good and it would seem that the dice are cast and if so Odin help us all.

USMC, Yes America has a strong military but that dose not equate to it can beat anyone. And as for the Georgia incident its now becoming quite clear that the US and Israel were behind that, no doubt to avert the attention of the Russians whilst the aformentioned attack Iran. And once again it demonstrates America's total lack of concern for human life which is of no importance in their Global Quest.

And if you think you can spank the Russians then you dont know anything of their history. Napoleon could not do it, Hitler could not and neither will America.

You may have been misled into thinking that Russia's military capabilies have fallen far behind well no they have not. They may not have the forces of the old Soviet Union but they have more nukes than the US and they have second and third strike capabilities. Plus it is well known that Russia's ABM system is the best in the World even though it does need some updating.

On top of that the West including the US have spent zilch on civil defense where Russia has spent billions. The one thing you never do is underestimate an enemy and the US is doing exactly that. And for every sneaky trick and move your CIA and Pentagon come up with the Russians will be countering it.

America may think they hold all the cards but thats just it they think they do but they dont and if they do attack Iran you may well see both Russian and Chinese nukes raining down on that great big Armada your sending to the gulf.

I agree with magicmushroom.
I do not know alot about Russian history, i should look it up, however, it comes across that they are very strong.
Their whole construct of their physical apperance alone can be qutie frightening. I beleive that, countries such as the U.K which is were i am from will back away from USA and let it come to its own fate.
Is there a chance if they was a war that anyone would nuke or invade uk?

Death, In the good old cold war days the Russians openly stated that, that the unsinkable aircraft carrier will go down on the first day, and they were meaning the UK. All that to a degree has ended now but the Russians don't trust us and Putin especially thinks were up to no good right now so I do hope that if it comes to a shooting war that we will distance ourselves from the US. The Russians have no desire to attack or invade the UK I do believe but whilst we stand alongside the US it makes us a target.

If the US wants to wage war in the ME then leave them to it and they can face the consequences of their actions. They are always boasting how big, strong and great they are so lets leave them to it and watch what happens.

Nobody has to attack Russia, just send in SEALS, GB's and the Rangers in Russian Uniforms and play a little subterfuge... We could literally have the Russian Army destroy itself in a matter of a couple of weeks, have them fire on each other, etc... Not only that, we don't have to attack Russia, we can defend Georgia, put the shoe on the other foot, Russian can't afford to attack the rest of the world, especially if the United States can get the help of the Chinese... China could over-run Russia in a week, complete and total domination.

Are you serious, the Chinese come on board with the US, and you could attack Russia with your special forces, oh I'm sorry I did not realise you were alseep and just dreaming. Never mind back to reality.

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Overrun, domination...... It is a nuclear era! China will not advance a lot before facing nuke ultimatum. And Russians are as smart a nation as any and will not kill each other because of several special ops. Those people won WW2.
The situation in which US forces will act against Russia on Russian soil is the situation in which few hours later insects become highest intelligent life form on this planet - in the best case. In the worst - future Europa astronomers will argue about weird asteroid field between Venus and Mars.