The Mayans and the Sumerians have warned us!

I have been coming to ATS for the past month, reading up on everything, even applying my own experiences, and fear that there is something completely wrong with the world today, and something coming this way is going to devastate us, in one way or another, and there is no stopping it.
But, in the past, life went on, as we are still living here today, eating, sleeping and breathing. Let me start off with the conspiracy of PLANET X and why it should have great significance to all of us, no matter what the government says or what the government scientists are saying to refute this claim. Back in 1983, and 1992 NASA, on both occasions discovered an object “www.youtube.com...” Pretty amazing right? Not really, because we were warned by the Sumerians “www.youtube.com...” yea that’s right, u read that one right ladies and gents. We were WARNED!
We were warned, that’s what the evidence shows us. The Sumerians existed over 3,000 years ago and had no technology like we had today and they knew what was out in our solar system. They had no telescopes to view anything guys. They didn’t need any, the Annunaki told them! This planet (red dwarf) or w/e you want to call it is going to come to the inner solar system, (from the south) come between mars and Jupiter and then do the parabola thing and zip back out to the outer solar system. When it passes by, it will cause devastation! Great numbers of our SPECIES are going to perish from the point it starts to YEARS after it’s over with. www.youtube.com...
There is no point yet, to all of this. Please excuse me if I don’t ask any questions yet, let me bring the full picture to you first. After this thing happens, one more thing happens to earth. And that’s the resulting polar shift. It’s going to displace a lot of people and cause mass exodus. People will survive, we are 6.5 billion strong. But that’s going to be a lot of stomachs to feed. The displacement will devastate infrastructure, social collapse and well, as many call it… (Armageddon.) Who knows how many people will die.
In 2012, were all going to go through a catastrophic change? I do not know how many are going to die because of this dwarf star. When it comes around, were doomed. The government has a plan in effect; it’s been in the books since its discovery. Maybe those (mystery concentration camps in the USA, are not meant for the NWO, but to kill a part of the population by lottery, then choose the other half, pick the ones we would want to enter into the real NWO after these events. The “survivors” would be chosen to live underground until our earth heals from all the volcanic and magnetic disruptions that would cause fire in the sky, and mass floods that would accompany it.
That’s my theory on what the USA government will do to survive. Its allies are also preparing, the UN and anyone in the UN would be part of this effort. The reasons why conspiracies are out are because of false stories led out by the heads of government to deviate our questions, and curiosity to something else. All these cause are more questions, refuting everything and anything. This gets the average persons mind off of these important questions. This is mainly caused by the higher-ups fearing of retaliatory measures of the people, not to mention mass panic, everyone would want to survive this and would want to know about it, would you? Even the Mayan knew this would happen, they were mathematically precise with their calendar and it ends on dec 21st 2012.
The Sumerians were right about the other planets out there, even knew of their make-up! Wouldn’t it be time to say, look into their civilization a little more deeply? Wouldn’t it turn your curiosity to look into this? I mean? Wouldn’t it hurt to just look or assume this was all possible?
sorry about the jumping, i was limited to 4k characters.

reply to post by ugie1028


well i believe in the 2012 scenario a bit i dont think its the end of the world like some people do i think its quite possibly a new beginning like a second chance to get it right if you know what i mean.

anyway i was thinking about it a week or so ago about what killed the dinosaurs and that i mean everyone seems to think it was a meteor or something like that but i think it couldve possibly been a 2012 scenario i mean 99.9 percent of the world died if you believe that .

but who knows i personally am looking forward to 2012 to see if anything happens but i dont really think anything will anymore but who knows.

reply to post by billyjoinedat2k8


your signature maths thing is stupid.

i just thought i'd tell you before you got into any trouble in regards to it.

reply to post by billyjoinedat2k8


its not the END of the world. a lot of people will die, such as the floods when noah sailed his boat for 40 and 40 nights. if you think about it, if it did happen, what i explained before about planet x come to mind. a lot of people will die, but not all.

Originally posted by ugie1028
reply to post by billyjoinedat2k8

 

its not the END of the world. a lot of people will die, such as the floods when noah sailed his boat for 40 and 40 nights. if you think about it, if it did happen, what i explained before about planet x come to mind. a lot of people will die, but not all.

Yes okay...dont be too dissappointed when the apocalypse doesnt happen mr doom and gloom! And no the mayans and sumerians never warned us of anything like you are talking about...and they are two completely different civilizations...stop bashing them together to make new age mumbo jumbo theories.

wow, i didint mean to come to you as mr doom but they didint really (warn us) but what they left behind cant be ignored. the sumarians knew about all the planets (even pluto) they even knew of their chemical make-up! they didint have telescopes, nor did they have the tech to discover these planets. the annanki told them, same with the mayans with their calandar. we only discovered these planets with our tech in the last hundred or so years! im only pointing these out to show you that this information is there but overlooked. so before you think of replying, reply in an open sense, not a close minded one. something is out there but no one wants to look.

Howdy Ugie

Nothing to worry about. You seem to have read a bit too much Sitchin or one of his fellow travelers.

The Sumerians left no such information, its all in the imagination of Zecharia. You can read the Sumerian literature for yourself at.

The Sumerian literature

As for the Maya (who came about many thousands of years after the Sumerians) there 2012 is straight calendar turn over. All the other stuff is mainly new age nonsense with no basis.

If a red dwarf was that close we'd see it very readily, you can read about that at this site.

Bad astronomy

Oh if you still believe we are all doomed please send me all your money and stuff - as you won't be needing it eh?

Most of us somehow feel that the world is wrong today. Some people think that the world is getting to be a safer place. I don't want to believe that there is something wrong in the world today.

But we have to wake up to reality.


I'm a little skeptical about Nibiru, but then again, there's the Doomsday Seed Vaults being built, the massive South Pole telescope.

The Doomsday Seed Vaults is of course in case there is a global catastophe.

The South Pole Telescope was used to find some some clues as to what the mysterious Dark energy was that's causing the universe to expand. I think there are much better locations than the South Pole that can find that clue. I betcha they already have a satelite in space that does just that.

Okay and there is also, Disease, Famine, Droughts, Fire, Flooding, Earthquakes, Crop Failures, Malnutrition, Population Control, Propaganda, War and Terror, Weapons of Mass Destruction, and etc.... Well that just ain't right.

But ahh, once you don't pay attention to the newspaper you might actually have a better day, to not worry as much.

[edit on 3-8-2008 by Shrukin89]

Actually compared to the past the world ain't in bad shape - for the present, the main problem we face is over population. That problem drives the ecological problems. Are they solvable? Yes but it will be a generation or two.

As for the OP, you need only figure out the proposed orbit of the said dwarf, then the date (2012) and you'll know how far away it would be - we would see it. The only way it could "sneak up on us" if it isn't in an orbit and traveling much, much faster.

[edit on 3/8/08 by Hanslune]

reply to post by ugie1028


Pioneer 10 and 11 ruled out a dwarf star near our solar system. If there was a planet larger than Earth (a possibility) past Neptune, its orbit would not take it beyond Neptune.

reply to post by ugie1028


not nibiru again i take it your one of zs disciples spreading BS everywhere you go all I can say is:There is no proof whatsoever,There is no Nibiru,Nibiru is just fiction zs said this to complete one of his many books and as for planet x there has been many, as pluto once was,like is anything we discover until we give a name, so please op do not be sucked into this crap for your own sake.

Well altered-states

Just to be clear on this I guess you don't hold any hope for Niburu existing?

LOL

reply to post by Hanslune


Yes if its the Nibiru people claim to be the Brown dwarf that is supposedly going to fly by our planet with people called annunaki on it the one that zs claims to be, there is more scientific evidence out there that proves this whole thing is a big con theres even people that have came forward not mentioning nibirushock2012 admitting they have been bs ing , I just think the whole nibiru thing has got way out of hand and theres to many people making moiney out of the whole situation

reply to post by ugie1028


You are so right, ugie1028, we have been warned! All over the world ancient peoples built monuments that had a lasting value. I think the last time the Earth's poles shifted, only a few survived, and they saw what happened, that it was a never ending cycle, and tries to warn future civilizations of what is to come. We are drawing close to an Earth-shattering event, if you ask me, and the recent weather events bear this out, along with the earthquakes and fires. Again, only a few will survive. Care to guess who is actively taking steps to make certain they will survive? Yep, the Illuminati/NWO/Knights of Malta/CFR/Round Table group are taking steps, by building deep underground bases, all self sustaining and able to support a large group of people for up to 5 years. Can you imagine, what the new Planet Earth will be like with this Nazi mentality in control from the start? This is the main reason these people have to be stopped, their secret knowledge known to all. Intelligent migration could save a lot of people during an event like I have described. People who are of a Free Spirit variety.

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There is plenty of information avaialble about the history of the pole shifts throughout Earth's history and while there were times when a complete reversal took place over long periods of time --the last full reversal was 780k yrs. ago none of them coincide with mass-extinctions. Note: Scientist can understand where the pole has been thoughout Earth's magnetic past by examining the layers that are found around ocean ridges and in Arctic lakes.

The magnetic north pole was not discovered until 1831, then in 1904 someone else discovered it had moved 50 mi. from where it was orgininally thought to be. This was meaningful in the time -- pre-GPS - when navigation relied on knowing true north based on compass readings.

The pole is shifting now, faster than it has been since its discovery moving from 10 mi. per year, to 25 mi. per year. It has shifted a total of 700 miles since it's discovery and moved from central Canada to ocean waters Canada claims. it is estimated that by 2050 it will be in Siberia.

And while there is evidence that the actual magenetism of the pole has at various points weakend, by as much as 10 percent, none of those periods are connected to era's of mass extinctions.

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Intelligent migration could save a lot of people during an event like I have described. People who are of a Free Spirit variety.

hmmmm interesting idea. I haven't heard much about that. I can sort of imagine what you are suggesting, but could you expand a bit.
Nothing like being prepared, just in case.

Originally posted by ugie1028
reply to post by billyjoinedat2k8

 

its not the END of the world. a lot of people will die, such as the floods when noah sailed his boat for 40 and 40 nights. if you think about it, if it did happen, what i explained before about planet x come to mind. a lot of people will die, but not all.

i never once said it was the end of the world i said i dont think its the end. maube a new beginning

Howdy Autowench

You should go read Scott Capenters comments

Scott's idea

He has an elborate scheme for how unknown ancients used the ancient Egyptians to mark out said warning. That said......

Lots of monuments but no indications that they were set up as a "warning". I don't like to get into conspiracy theory but I would make one comment. Digging into the earth for shelter before an event that is suppose to have massive earth movements is not a good idea. Suspending your in the deep ocean is far better idea using a submarine would be much more intelligent.

I suspect threir will be lots of disappointed and embarrassed people in late December 2012, if it works out like Jan 1st 2000.


Howdy Ugie 1028

How do you account for our inability to see this planet/dwarf? When asked this question believers usually say its behind the sun but that doesn't work as we are orbiting our sun of course. So we can see behind it! So?

[edit on 3/8/08 by Hanslune]

Originally posted by Lethil

And no the mayans and sumerians never warned us of anything like you are talking about...and they are two completely different civilizations...stop bashing them together to make new age mumbo jumbo theories.

indeed, the Mayan long count calendar is ~5,120 years long, and is more concerned with the changing of the 'Ages' than any 'end-of-the-world' situation.

also, the Sumerians language has yet to be fully unearthed and understood their language first found alongside Babylonian text was thought to be a secret code for the mystics... but it was later discovered that the Sumerian cuniform tablets/cakes were actually a language from a more ancient civilization than the babylonian.
I think your citing the stone inscription that some say depicts the solar system with the Sun at the center and 9 orbs of different sizes spaced irregularly around the central firey object. That interpetation is just that ...a proprietary interpetation, because that pictograph could just as well be a depiction of a flower and the bees and pollen floating around the flower blossom.

there has never been any supporting text or evidence that a real time, physical planet X encountered the planet Earth, or returns every 3-4,000 years as proported by Stitchen & Co. from some Sumerian clay tablets.
At best the Nibiru myth was a take off from Sumerian mythology and their pantheon of gods and their creation story, flood story, etc

the Sumerians were from the Age of Taurus the Bull, so all their spiritual thinking was more based on nature & fertility, rather than fallen angels which came later


thanks

im not going to assume there is'nt a tenth planet that sometime in the past caused problems in our solar system.

but if you do the math, and look at history, there is'nt much evidence of a planet which comes ever 3,600 years and causes the destruction of mankind. i would use the word history losely, its a fact the winners write history so who knows if we are being told the whole truth about the actual history of earth.

one thing that really does frustrate me through is alot of people linking 2012 to planet x.

the mayans were not timing planet x's cycle. like the post above points out. it makes no sense to time a 3,600 year cycle with a 5,120 year calender.

so why are the mayans even mentioned when talking about the possibility of a tenth planet in our solar system?

if there was a rouge body our solar system picked up once in the past it must have a stable orbit ferther out. but the date 2012 has nothing what so ever to do with it even if it is there. the mayans were not timing it. they were timing alinements and the new age. my calender ends on december the 31st 2008, so don't worry about planet x the world will end before 2012.

edit: typo correction(unreadable).

[edit on 4-8-2008 by lifeform]