The White House is Briefed: Phoenix About to Announce "Potential For Life" on Mars

This is just in the NWO plan

Tell the sheep that we have life on other planets and then (we)the NWO can Fake an alien invasion and people will take it hook line and sinker and will be non the wiser.

I for one will not be fooled

Originally posted by Spock Shock
Well thats awesome, I think they need to find someone with some balls to go land on mars and take their spacesuit off, that'd be revolutionary if they find out they can actually breath the mars atmosphere, but besides that the whole worlds been tellin you there was water on mars for years, think about total recall that was like in the 80's lol...

I don't know that a human could breathe for long or at all in the martain atmosphere...

But I am sure that if we go into the caves where air pressure would be higher and water dripping from above liquid there are habitable zones we could exist in...

The other big thing is the perchlorates... I find it kind of strange that we have perchlorates near Nazca in peru and that micro organisms in the area feed on them... and that they have been found on Mars...

It's not just that Nazca is probably the most similar environment on earth to mars...

But that the composition is so similar

and

it's also the site of what people believe to be ancient astronaut landings... thin air perchlorates in the soil... similar microbes if they exist on Mars...

very coincidental no?

Originally posted by duffster
This is just in the NWO plan

Tell the sheep that we have life on other planets and then (we)the NWO can Fake an alien invasion and people will take it hook line and sinker and will be non the wiser.

I for one will not be fooled

How did you ever get so paranoid?

Originally posted by cPrime
Well, an article I just read seems to say the exact opposite of the OP:

Martian soil may contain detrimental substance

By ALICIA CHANG – 2 hours ago

LOS ANGELES (AP) — NASA's Phoenix spacecraft has detected the presence of a chemically reactive salt in the Martian soil, a finding that if confirmed could make it less friendly to potential life than once believed.

Scientists previously reported that the soil near Mars' north pole was similar to backyard gardens on Earth where plants such as asparagus, green beans and turnips could grow. But preliminary results from a second lab test found perchlorate, a highly oxidizing salt, that would create a harsh environment.

Link to the article: ap.google.com...

That's a pretty big let down...

Oh No....

It is Not!

They also confirmed the Perchlorates aren't from Mineral sources like magnesium or calcium...

which means they formed from Ammonia

Ammonia if it was present in liquid form in any amounts would have been noticed long, long ago...

sooo there is a very good chance the ammonia comes from organic decomposition or organic waste removal...

and...

The no1 1 theory in astrobiology of what liquid a living creature would use for survival in a colder environment (below freezing temp of water) is.... Ammonia either as a replacement for water or an anti freeze...

so perchlorates are not a bad thing at all...

also as I said above, organisms on the nazca plain...feed on Perchlorates in the soil to survive and it's the most mars like environment on Earth...

Perchlorates is Not a bad thing to have found... not at all

Originally posted by W3RLIED2
I cant just smell cover up, i can taste it. Hasnt this happened before? for the last 60 years maybe??? I'm not surprised at all, this is what should be expected.

They can't cover this up... it's basic chemistry... I know microorganisms on Earth feed on perchlorates... many others do too.. I also know where and how much like mars the location is...

The perchlorates are the proof of life not the enemy of it in this case

and this is bs... the percholates page on Wikipedia... pulled other pertinent info to this and replaced it with a single post on the Mars discovery...

avoiding mention of and eliminating information about... microorgansims that feed on percholates on earth...

and the info was there YESTERDAY

I really hope there is a potential for life out there. I don't necessarily think it's going to come from MARS, but there very well could have been life on MARS at some time in history.

before it's all gone!

okay.... shwooo...

Here nasa actually talks about this ..posted just last night...

nasa pecholates and microorganisms


guess they have to be the ones to tell everyone everything... lol

But why does the media keep refering to percholates as hazardous to life?

Nasa says right here that basically I am correct... and even mentions locations although doesn't directly thow in Nazca...

what the heck

Originally posted by sleepingladybug
I really hope there is a potential for life out there. I don't necessarily think it's going to come from MARS, but there very well could have been life on MARS at some time in history.

so you think that... it's wet, has soil that is a macth for earth has a byproduct in the soil of organic ammonia, has oxygen...

and has been floating through the tail of the earth for hundreds of millions of years with debris from our planet landing on it in microscopic amounts every year for millions of years and in relative quantity every time we have a major volcano or asteroid hit...

and... you believe we haven't seeded this environment in all that time?

That's really what you think?

look at this from an article...

On Mars, which doesn’t lack for sunlight and airborne dust, volcanic activity would be the likely source for chlorine, Dr. Quinn adds. As for habitats, future missions may have to dig deeper in other locations. Scientists studying the life in the Atacama Desert have found only low numbers of culturable bacteria and no recoverable DNA in the top four inches of soil in the desert’s most arid region. But at least two teams have reported large numbers of bacteria at depths of eight to 12 inches.

dig a little bit deeper nasa...

why mention chlorine based but not ammonia?

and wtf... volcanic activity? It's been millions of years since there was activity on Mars...

[edit on 7-8-2008 by mopusvindictus]

Here they bother to mention on Msnbc a few little things

The most surprising thing is that some of Phoenix's soil samples appear to contain chemicals that are found in rocket fuel — and in the natural soil of Chile's Atacama Desert, one of the places on Earth considered most like Mars.

That it is most like Mars

and

Brown University geologist John Mustard, who had no role in the Phoenix mission, told The Associated Press that perchlorates are "not usually considered an ingredient for life."

However, some organisms actually thrive on perchlorates and have been enlisted for cleaning up chemical spills. Perchlorate-loving microbes have been found in Chile's Atacama Desert and Antarctica — two of the places that have been compared to the Red Planet's cold, dry environment.

"There are some microbes that use it as an energy source, and there are some microbes that just co-exist with it and there are no problems," said Richard Quinn, a chemist at the SETI Institute and NASA's Ames Research Center who is an expert on the Atacama Desert.

They go so far as to also Mention Antartica... another percholate feeding rich spot...

But no one will say the words Nazca for me lol

Basically Everywhere you have a Mars like location on Earth you will find Perchlorate feeding micro organisms...

How about a little genetic testing to determine how... Earth like the DNA of these microbes actually are...

prediction... they will be found in years to come to have natural martian genetics and seeded viable locations on earth...

Just as some microboes and more perhaps will be found to have Earth DNA and that our 2 planets have been trading life forms on a low scale for millions of years

Originally posted by duffster
This is just in the NWO plan

Tell the sheep that we have life on other planets and then (we)the NWO can Fake an alien invasion and people will take it hook line and sinker and will be non the wiser.

I for one will not be fooled

Well there is a major flaw in your theory. If the NWO wanted us to believe in aliens so bad then why has the US government been denying and ridiculing the subject for decades. That just doesn't make any sense.


[edit on 7/8/08 by Fastwalker81]

I don't give a damn whether there is life on mars,or any other planet.
I do however find it interesting to consider it at times,but there are way more important things to use our resources here on earth for.....
I think we should fix things here on our planet,so if there is life elsewhere,we don't spread our friggin disease there.
We need to stop wasting resources on things that really will do nothing to fix the problems we face here and now.
This is just a distraction from your not so eventful lives.
The simple things are the most rewarding,blast off into the space within,not into outer space.
Things are so messed up here that traveling to other planets would equate to going to visit your neighbor after crapping your pants and not cleaning yourself up,they wouldn't appreciate the visit at all.
Silly humans.

[edit on 7-8-2008 by chiponbothshoulders]

reply to post by mopusvindictus


Who said i was paranoid I don't think i'm paranoid but i don't trust The Government

I don't think that makes me Paranoid

Originally posted by chiponbothshoulders
I don't give a damn whether there is life on mars,or any other planet.
I do however find it interesting to consider it at times,but there are way more important things to use our resources here on earth for.....
I think we should fix things here on our planet,so if there is life elsewhere,we don't spread our friggin disease there.
We need to stop wasting resources on things that really will do nothing to fix the problems we face here and now.
This is just a distraction from your not so eventful lives.
The simple things are the most rewarding,blast off into the space within,not into outer space.
Things are so messed up here that traveling to other planets would equate to going to visit your neighbor after crapping your pants and not cleaning yourself up,they wouldn't appreciate the visit at all.
Silly humans.

[edit on 7-8-2008 by chiponbothshoulders]

so why do you choose to remain alive if your a disease?

Bro... your a ridiculous person, and frankly I don't know what depresso world your mind inhabits but I like people and don't think we have quite so many flaws... stop being so emo and put the razors away...

There is another planet of resources right next door...

the whole point is that we don't have to fight....

Did you ever stop and think of the reality of having children and trying to keep each generation in the same house? There is NO way, to "fix" the problem of population growth but to expand territory...

If we don't start an exodous most of us will DIE... there is no awnser but the one right in front of our face... One planet can't support 15 Billion people...

We have to explore space...

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IMO the reason would be is People have not been ready to accept that we are not the only life around And now more people are opening their minds to new events

What a better way

Lets take a look at Atacama from space shall we






Would anyone think this wasn't Mars to look at this gogle earth Image? The red is the result of Perchlorates... Elevation 14,000 ft avg low atmospheric oxygen content...

Now lets see the mountains around Machaychucho... Peru Just East of the Nazca Plains where the natives were marking the ground to be seen from only above by...whom?






Hrrrm... looks nice and red and full of Perchlorates... also an altitude of around 13,500 feet....

Coincidence...??

Maybe not?

Interesting huh?

Originally posted by duffster
reply to post by mopusvindictus

 

Who said i was

paranoid

I don't think i'm paranoid but i don't trust The Government

I don't think that makes me Paranoid

well... there is a such thing as healthy Paranoia... a little in life is a good thing! particular when dealing with power seekers...

with that said though... no one is staging a fake alien invasion

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WELL DONE! i see the connection, i'm sure many others will too after they read through it. I dont believe in coincedence and i dont think you do either.