water on mars-nasa confirms it

Hello fellow ats'ers,just watched Channel Four News in merry old England and they reported that there is water on Mars.Ice crystals that were dicscovered were seento melt over a period of time.Ice was tested and Water!This means that if there is potential for life on Mars there is potential for life elsewhere in our universe.....




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Great news.I wonder if any micro life will be found in those samples.

Here is the info straight from the horses mouth so to speak;







www.nasa.gov...

what part of ice caps don't they understand !! ? freaking DUH !!!!!!!!

So it takes NASA to tell us that?? WT*!!!! ??

This is very exciting news for the obvious reasons.No doubt there will be more developments over the coming weeks and months .I think this add's an extra dimension to the arguments about alien life /artifacts on Mars.I'm sure all the major newsagencies will begin to report this globally very soon.I think it will be interesting to hear all opimions from the experts to ufo buffs and conspiracy theorists.Should be quite a ride....

Originally posted by Komodo
what part of ice caps don't they understand !! ? freaking DUH !!!!!!!!

So it takes NASA to tell us that?? WT*!!!! ??

This information is relatively new. Since 1966, it's been thought that the ice caps on Mars consisted primarily of CO2 ice (dry ice). This was a false assumption based on early atmospheric data indicating CO2 comprised most of the atmosphere. Scientists erroneously assumed that the ice caps were also CO2. It wasn't until the Vicking spacecraft discovered water ice at the north cap, below a 3-foot layer of CO2 ice, and that the upper layer melts away during the Martian summer that previous assumptions were reevaluated.

The southern ice cap was thought to be entirely CO2 ice until 2000 when images of pits in the southern polar ice were captured by the Mars Global Surveyor. These pits exhibited the same "melting away" behavior that was observed at the northern cap. The pits were found to grow in diameter, but never got any deeper. This is because water ice remains solid at much higher temperatures.

So yeah, it's a "DUH" point for some of us, but not society at large. Most members of the general public don't even know Mars has ice caps, let alone what they consist of.

Great post,

It's exactly what ufologist have been saying for years and it will soon be confirmed by science.

This is why you have therories like Panspermia.

The is why Nobel Prize winner Francis Crick came up with the theory of directed panspermia.

He said that there wasn't enough time for life to form on earth so it must have come from elswhere in space and Frick was an agnostic leaning towards atheism.

This is just what the evidence showed him and it's starting to bear itself out.

You have red rain. This could be extra-terrestrial microbes that landed on earth just as we did billions of years ago.

What makes this finding most important is the biological cell like nature of these red particles. Under optical microscope they appear like biological cells and the Transmission Electron Microscopy further shows a clear cell structure. Their organic nature is indicated by the major presence of carbon and oxygen. But despite these biological indications the cells do not show the presence of DNA. The genetic molecule DNA is present in all living organisms found on Earth. So the absence of DNA argues against the biological nature of these red rain cells.

The red cells found in the red rain in Kerala, India are now considered as a possible case of extraterrestrial life form. These cells can undergo rapid replication even at an extreme high temperature of 300 deg C. They can also be cultured in diverse unconventional chemical substrates. The molecular composition of these cells is yet to be identified. This paper reports the unusual autofluorescence characteristic of the cultured red rain cells. A spectrofluorimetric study has been performed to investigate this, which shows a systematic shift of the fluorescence emission peak wavelength as the excitation wavelength is increased. Conventional biomolecules are not known to have this property. Details of this investigation and the results are discussed.

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Dr. Godfrey Louis had a peer-reviewed paper published in the journal, Astrophysics and Space Science.

Also, some scientist believe that Venus may have had oceans of water and microbes may be living in the acidic clouds.

The acidic clouds of Venus could in fact be hiding life. Unlikely as it sounds, the presence of microbes could neatly explain several mysterious observations of the planet's atmosphere.

Even more mysterious is the presence of carbonyl sulphide. This gas is so difficult to produce inorganically that it is sometimes considered an unambiguous indicator of biological activity.

"There may be non-biological ways to produce the hydrogen sulphide or carbonyl sulphide that we do not know about, but both reactions need catalysts to proceed efficiently," says Schulze-Makuch. "On Earth, the most efficient catalysts are microbes."

He thinks that bugs living in the Venusian clouds could be combining sulphur dioxide with carbon monoxide and possibly hydrogen to produce either hydrogen sulphide or carbonyl sulphide in a metabolism similar to that of some early Earth bugs. He suggests the bugs could be using ultraviolet light from the Sun as an energy source.

space.newscientist.com...

Now NASA confirms that there's water on Mars.

The next thing they will say, is that it's a high probability that intelligent life evolved elswhere since the condition for life are easily met outside of earth.

Translation: This will be like saying extra-terrestrial life exists in scientific terms.

The U.F.O.'s would not have to travel light years to get here if they evolved in our own back yard.

I wouldn't be surprised if a mass sighting is about to happen, because they probably know that our science is getting close to confirming there existence.


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They wont find Life. Phoenix is not equipped to find life, Only evidece of water. We have to wait for the MSL.

im just not that thrilled about there being any water at this point any more than the fact that theres rocks on marz.

im glad they feel accomplished to send the rover all that way to prove that there is water, its great, but its not gonna really turn people over in their grave for now.

I am not trying to cross-thread, but ..........

Huh?

I thought this was a couple/few months ago? Not speculation, but confirmation from NASA that water was indeed found?

Anyone else?

Should I pack my bags and go to that timeline thread? I do admit that I adamantly remember Billy Graham dying. And I sure as hell remember the NASA/Mars/water disclosure.

Not a news exactly.
And water is everywhere in this universe.

However, good to see some successful experiments on Mars.

Nope they just inferred it could be there locked into the ice, but not within the soil itself, the news just keeps gettin better & better and the skeptics are gonna have to find someplace to hide very soon LOL

Originally posted by Misfit
I am not trying to cross-thread, but ..........

Huh?

I thought this was a couple/few months ago? Not speculation, but confirmation from NASA that water was indeed found?

Anyone else?

Should I pack my bags and go to that timeline thread? I do admit that I adamantly remember Billy Graham dying. And I sure as hell remember the NASA/Mars/water disclosure.

It is news because we have never directly found it on another planetary body so far. Of course they theorize about it but thats nothing to actually going there & finding it. The odds of life past or present just took another leap.
To Paraphrase a nasa scientist recently.."where there's water.. there's life" quote.

Originally posted by rocksolidbrain
Not a news exactly.
And water is everywhere in this universe.

However, good to see some successful experiments on Mars.

[edit on 31-7-2008 by OneLifeTooLive]

And not to mention the other recent announcement about the massive Ethane lake on Titan, where life may be based on entirely different chemicals to earth is additionally so exciting & profound as to what LIFE may be..we may be looking for the wrong thing with our SETI search!!

www.space.com...


Another startling find...signs of life found INSIDE rocksalt:
www.space.com...

Implications for what may be found inside rocks on other worlds who have liquid of some kind (Mars: CONFIRMED. Titan: CONFIRMED)

Just becuase water sustains life on earth doesnt mean, life hasnt evolved elsewhere without it, but its interesting still since this is one of the very few planets that we have inviestigated and we already find evidence of life, its crazy, its pretty obveous to me now, that the universe is cram packed with other life.

I still beleive NASA and co are still hiding ALOT of information, and they have found aliens, or they found us first, and maybe its also possible some humans have been taken to their homeworlds


Imangine another planet just as populated as ours, full of other intelligent life, years ahead of our own, can u imagine what it would look like? just thinking about it gets me angry coz i want to know more!! it would be the most interesting thing ever! it would most likely be like starwars, with beiings from all over the universe co-existing together, it would be funny to go out into a bar or somthing and see loads of other species living together

thing is somthing like this probably does exist, and were sat all alone wasting away whilst we sit in isoloation from other cilvilisations!


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So finally they were able to melt the ice and vaporize it.
I would like to know if there are any microbiological elements in it.....

Of course, but as far as we know all earthly biology needs it to sustain life. Im hoping we would find otherwise too but even with this as the pre-requisite it means there must be billions of planetoids out there capable of supporting life!!!

Originally posted by Alien dood
Just becuase water sustains life on earth doesnt mean, life hasnt evolved elsewhere without it, but its interesting still since this is one of the very few planets that we have inviestigated and we already find evidence of life, its crazy, its pretty obveous to me now, that the universe is cram packed with other life.

I still beleive NASA and co are still hiding ALOT of information, and they have found aliens, or they found us first, and maybe its also possible some humans have been taken to their homeworlds


Imangine another planet just as populated as ours, full of other intelligent life, years ahead of our own, can u imagine what it would look like? just thinking about it gets me angry coz i want to know more!! it would be the most interesting thing ever! it would most likely be like starwars, with beiings from all over the universe co-existing together, it would be funny to go out into a bar or somthing and see loads of other species living together

thing is somthing like this probably does exist, and were sat all alone wasting away whilst we sit in isoloation from other cilvilisations!


[edit on 31-7-2008 by Alien dood]

These are my favorite pics on the subject at hand

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I LOVE IT!!! it's exactally what I thought of as well.. Ice.. on Mars

NASA says Mars craft "touvhed and tasted water!"

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - NASA scientists said on Thursday they had definitive proof that water exists on Mars after further tests on ice found on the planet in June by the Phoenix Mars Lander.
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"We have water," said William Boynton, lead scientist for the Thermal and Evolved-Gas Analyzer instrument on Phoenix.

"We've seen evidence for this water ice before in observations by the Mars Odyssey orbiter and in disappearing chunks observed by Phoenix last month, but this is the first time Martian water has been touched and tasted," he said, referring to the craft's instruments.

good news!
Perhaps now they may accept theories that there are underground rivers on the planet Mars, just like here on earth.
Pictures have shown us before patterns in the martian soil that appear to be caused by water spouts.
This could also lead to the possibility of life under the surface.
after all, it was NASA that said all you need is water for there to be life on mars right?
and if we are finding small ammounts of water and can conclude that more water existed at some point in the plannets history, then we could also conclude that Mars at one time had an atmosphere like earths...
really exciting stuff.